[cite]Posted By: Southendaddick[/cite]Think its a bit unfair to name and shame individuals for being positive, its what we all want.
That wasn't the intention.
The intention was because i knew that i could rely on one of those named to provide a decent positive thread ahead of the game. It may of escaped others, but i couldn't help notice there was an air of non-interest ahead of tomorrow, which is a real shame. But people can't be forced to make emotions they simply aren't feeling.
[cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]the floor is yours and yours only.
Tell us exactly why tomorrow is going to be the start of something beautiful in Charltonville.
Come on guys, do a convincing number on me and the rest of the doubting thomas brigade.
you see, therein lies the rub.
Tomorrow isn't going to be the start of something beautiful, because in truth, despite all that has happened in the last two years and the previous four decades come to that, for me, it hasn't stopped yet. Of course I'll get angry, depressed and frustrated as I always have. And it'll still be beautiful.
Also I don't feel it's my place to do the convincing, I think if that should come from anywhere it should come from within and besides I wouldn't want to, if whatever you feel is genuine and it's out of care for the club, then you should continue to do so, as will I.
Hope that fit's the bill, haven't been about all week :-)
[cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Quality post, Suz!
I've just read Suzi's post ........ I'm sure she likes to see us win, totally made up if we do but, read her post again - it's all about the day out, the whole Valley experience, connecting with friends and family - and looking forward to it!
I've been going to matches for a long time now - but that same strange mix of anticipation and apprehension both at the same time, meeting mates and my Dad, and having a beer before .....and just, I don't know really, that feeling of just being home and feeling all things Charlton in my blood.
And that getting behind the team, urging them on, that emotional involvement of mentally kicking every ball myself, watching the pattern of play and watching out for what happens off the ball as well as following the action.
I also look out for the emotional responses of the players, the lows, highs and frustrations, their body language and how I think they get involved mentally.
I try to read the players, if you like - and can be scathing of the player who is not being honest.
I never boo - I believe that brings the whole energy of the place sinking downwards in self-defeating cycles - if you want to help the opposition, then boo - but know by doing so you're not actuallysupportingyour team ...........
If we score, let alone win I cherish that elation - but for me it's that sense of occasion, that being part of it all at some level. Win or lose, it's a great day out.
Some people ssem to just go for the result - they can do that watching CeeFax at home. It's a lot cheaper!
But try seeing that it's more than win or lose, and if that's all you go for, then you're bound to be disappointed often!
Build that atmosphere, get behind the team even if it's mis-firing horribly. You may be surprised at the effect it has on the team - and you'll have a better day out than otherwise sitting passively in stony silence or booing your own side.
Be Proud to be an Addick!
I used to be like that,football was part of the day,the beer,craic and mates made it a day out,however then i got older money became tighter and all of a sudden the result mattered more because i couldn't do the rest.Maybe that's why we have different outlooks.
Suzi, Oggy and others you've posted a timely reminder of what it is all about.
My daughter asked me who we were playing as she had temporarily forgotten. Sheffield United I said. That's a tough game she said but we've got to go because now is the time they need us.
I thought she was losing interest after Barnsley but she put me to shame when she came out with that.
[cite]Posted By: Badger[/cite]I Shall be in attendance for the game along with my daughter, she had a choice from the following for a saturday spent with Dad
To go
Ten pin bowling
swimming
Tate modern
Shopping
or
Charlton
Let's go to Charlton dad you can always take me swimming or bowling another time.
Ah.
When I was a kid, I used to get the right hump when we lost - my parents claim I'd be grumpy most of Sunday as well as Saturday night. Nowadays going to football for me is more about catching up with family, having a bit of a sing, letting off some steam at the opposition or officials, and watching some exciting (but not necessarily technically brilliant) football. Perhaps one of the reasons why I'm more rose-tinted than most of the posters here is that I don't ever go into a game expecting us to win, and the performance and the atmosphere is just as important for my enjoyment as the result is.
That said, Barnsley was AWFUL - the team looked like they had no clue, the mood in the stands was pretty ugly, and the result was depressing. However, the reports from the people who were actually there at Plymouth and Birmingham suggest the team may be turning things around, and if we can give them our full support for 90 minutes, rather than turning on them at the first set-back, then it'll be more fun for everyone, and we're more likely to get a result.
Come on guys, this is Charlton; we never do things the easy way.
I can't get to the game tomorrow - but I sense, like many others, that this game could be a turning point.
Sheffield are a decent Championship outfit and will offer a stern test - if we can come through this one with 3 points we can build upon it.
Yes, Barnsley was dreadful - but I still squirmed in my seat when the first 'Pardew out' chants started. Personally I'd rather not hear that stuff during a game.
Since 1972 when I first attended with my Dad, I've lived through some great Charlton days and some truly appalling ones. But our club is special and we, like the players, have a responsibility to uphold the great traditions of Charlton.
Well it all goes back to a winters day in 1957.....at the age of nine I walked into The Valley and The Addicks walked into my life...my body...my soul.
The huge terraces were something a little nine year old couldn't quite comprehend....the cry of "peanuts tanner a bag" (quite exotic in those days) the massive wooden scoreboard at the top of The East Terrace near The Sam Bartram entrance (where I would enter and leave for years to come).
The loss to Blackburn 3-4 at a packed Valley...what a blow that was in the history of the club.We really could have and indeed should have got the draw we needed....it was incomprehensible....the crowd, myself included, were stunned!
Getting the 75 bus from St Mildreds Road (near to Verdant Lane Catford) and back again with my mates, oh how much fun we'd have on that bus journey.....happy happy days.
Getting to know Johhny Summers and his son John over the next few years...becoming a riotous little fooker in The Covered End during my late teens and early twenties...the tear up's...... especialy with Millwall. All the faces that have come and gone....ah and the walk to the ground the antisipation and joy and the heartbreaks that might bring.... like a roller coaster ride that you simply can't get off.(It'll be just the same today, some 50 + years later).
Oh......and of course let's never forget that moment at Wembley.
I could go on and on...above are just 'some' of the reasons why as a commited Addick my glass will always be half full,just as it is this morning.
I,m an optimstic fool, have been so from first visit to the Valley, would love higher league footy but if its not to be so what! Standing on east terrace with my dad in the seventies soon taught me not to expect to much, so as usual i'm expecting 3 points, total football, great support and a few beers, COME ON U REDS.
[cite]Posted By: aliwibble[/cite]When I was a kid, I used to get the right hump when we lost - my parents claim I'd be grumpy most of Sunday as well as Saturday night. Nowadays going to football for me is more about catching up with family, having a bit of a sing, letting off some steam at the opposition or officials, and watching some exciting (but not necessarily technically brilliant) football. Perhaps one of the reasons why I'm more rose-tinted than most of the posters here is that I don't ever go into a game expecting us to win, and the performance and the atmosphere is just as important for my enjoyment as the result is.
That said, Barnsley was AWFUL - the team looked like they had no clue, the mood in the stands was pretty ugly, and the result was depressing. However, the reports from the people who were actually there at Plymouth and Birmingham suggest the team may be turning things around, andif we can give them our full support for 90 minutes, rather than turning on them at the first set-back, then it'll be more fun for everyone, and we're more likely to get a result.
Come on guys, this is Charlton; we never do things the easy way.
Here's another quality post from Ali, in the same vein as Suz, Wilma, SoundAs£ and others ....... it's all about the matchday itself, that tingle of anticipation of a good day out, win or lose.
It's not just about a result.
It's about that feeling of Charlton in your blood, the friends, the memories, the emotion and letting off steam together.
That's a great word ........together.
We're all in this together - we're as much part of the game as the players and management.
That's why Charlton is a club.
That's why we're supporters ........ and not just customers, who grumble when the service does not come up to our own expectations.
Let me quote Ali again: ".......if we can give them our full support for 90 minutes, rather than turning on them at the first set-back, then it'll be more fun for everyone, and we're more likely to get a result."
Win or lose let's put the fun back into going to The Valley.
Lovely to know that there are so many warm-hearted romantics out there who continue to believe that football is still primarily a game rather than just a business. It's quite restored my faith and I'm really looking forward to this afternoon.
Great idea to start this thread, AFKA. It's produced some of the best responses on the site in quite a while.
[cite]Posted By: nigel w[/cite]Lovely to know that there are so many warm-hearted romantics out there who continue to believe that football is still primarily a game rather than just a business. It's quite restored my faith and I'm really looking forward to this afternoon.
Great idea to start this thread, AFKA. It's produced some of the best responses on the site in quite a while.
But that's why we follow Charlton, Nigel.
If it's results we're after, we'd all be Spuds, Chelski, Arse or Manure glory boys.
Wouldn't we.....?
I always squirm when we hear managers and players say "we all know football is a results business''. Well I like a good result, if possible - it's the 'business' word I object to!
I must admit that I've just checked in (haven't got CAFCTV yet...) and I was more nervous about seeing the reaction on here than I was about seeing the actual result. I just wish that I was as confident as some on here that a managerial change would solve anything...
Erm........ Just getting a knife to slash my wrists!
Honestly thought we played OK but for those calamitous defensive errors. Will admit that I was wrong though, really thought he could turn it around after the Bexley Park meeting.
here here NSS i fecking hate that thing you know i do how about me and you break in tonight there wont be no one there and smash the fecking thing as neither of us will no what wire to pull out to get the feeesh off of it
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That wasn't the intention.
The intention was because i knew that i could rely on one of those named to provide a decent positive thread ahead of the game. It may of escaped others, but i couldn't help notice there was an air of non-interest ahead of tomorrow, which is a real shame. But people can't be forced to make emotions they simply aren't feeling.
you see, therein lies the rub.
Tomorrow isn't going to be the start of something beautiful, because in truth, despite all that has happened in the last two years and the previous four decades come to that, for me, it hasn't stopped yet. Of course I'll get angry, depressed and frustrated as I always have. And it'll still be beautiful.
Also I don't feel it's my place to do the convincing, I think if that should come from anywhere it should come from within and besides I wouldn't want to, if whatever you feel is genuine and it's out of care for the club, then you should continue to do so, as will I.
Hope that fit's the bill, haven't been about all week :-)
I used to be like that,football was part of the day,the beer,craic and mates made it a day out,however then i got older money became tighter and all of a sudden the result mattered more because i couldn't do the rest.Maybe that's why we have different outlooks.
To go
Ten pin bowling
swimming
Tate modern
Shopping
or
Charlton
Let's go to Charlton dad you can always take me swimming or bowling another time.
Ah.
It'll be fine BDL, if all else fails we'll just have an hour show on Dan's wet dreams!!!!! :-)
My daughter asked me who we were playing as she had temporarily forgotten. Sheffield United I said. That's a tough game she said but we've got to go because now is the time they need us.
I thought she was losing interest after Barnsley but she put me to shame when she came out with that.
COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!
lol good kid
That said, Barnsley was AWFUL - the team looked like they had no clue, the mood in the stands was pretty ugly, and the result was depressing. However, the reports from the people who were actually there at Plymouth and Birmingham suggest the team may be turning things around, and if we can give them our full support for 90 minutes, rather than turning on them at the first set-back, then it'll be more fun for everyone, and we're more likely to get a result.
Come on guys, this is Charlton; we never do things the easy way.
Sheffield are a decent Championship outfit and will offer a stern test - if we can come through this one with 3 points we can build upon it.
Yes, Barnsley was dreadful - but I still squirmed in my seat when the first 'Pardew out' chants started. Personally I'd rather not hear that stuff during a game.
Since 1972 when I first attended with my Dad, I've lived through some great Charlton days and some truly appalling ones.
But our club is special and we, like the players, have a responsibility to uphold the great traditions of Charlton.
We support Charlton.
The huge terraces were something a little nine year old couldn't quite comprehend....the cry of "peanuts tanner a bag" (quite exotic in those days) the massive wooden scoreboard at the top of The East Terrace near The Sam Bartram entrance (where I would enter and leave for years to come).
The loss to Blackburn 3-4 at a packed Valley...what a blow that was in the history of the club.We really could have and indeed should have got the draw we needed....it was incomprehensible....the crowd, myself included, were stunned!
Getting the 75 bus from St Mildreds Road (near to Verdant Lane Catford) and back again with my mates, oh how much fun we'd have on that bus journey.....happy happy days.
Getting to know Johhny Summers and his son John over the next few years...becoming a riotous little fooker in The Covered End during my late teens and early twenties...the tear up's...... especialy with Millwall. All the faces that have come and gone....ah and the walk to the ground the antisipation and joy and the heartbreaks that might bring.... like a roller coaster ride that you simply can't get off.(It'll be just the same today, some 50 + years later).
Oh......and of course let's never forget that moment at Wembley.
I could go on and on...above are just 'some' of the reasons why as a commited Addick my glass will always be half full,just as it is this morning.
UP THE ADDICKS!
Standing on east terrace with my dad in the seventies soon taught me not to expect to much,
so as usual i'm expecting 3 points, total football, great support and a few beers, COME ON U REDS.
Here's another quality post from Ali, in the same vein as Suz, Wilma, SoundAs£ and others ....... it's all about the matchday itself, that tingle of anticipation of a good day out, win or lose.
It's not just about a result.
It's about that feeling of Charlton in your blood, the friends, the memories, the emotion and letting off steam together.
That's a great word ........together.
We're all in this together - we're as much part of the game as the players and management.
That's why Charlton is a club.
That's why we're supporters ........ and not just customers, who grumble when the service does not come up to our own expectations.
Let me quote Ali again: ".......if we can give them our full support for 90 minutes, rather than turning on them at the first set-back, then it'll be more fun for everyone, and we're more likely to get a result."
Win or lose let's put the fun back into going to The Valley.
Great idea to start this thread, AFKA. It's produced some of the best responses on the site in quite a while.
But that's why we follow Charlton, Nigel.
If it's results we're after, we'd all be Spuds, Chelski, Arse or Manure glory boys.
Wouldn't we.....?
I always squirm when we hear managers and players say "we all know football is a results business''. Well I like a good result, if possible - it's the 'business' word I object to!
please fill me in on todays positives :-)
My half time Mars bar was still chilled due to the weather!
I had a great laugh trying to spot who might actually explode with rage!!!!
The traffic driving home was easier and I got a parking space right outside my house.
Honestly thought we played OK but for those calamitous defensive errors. Will admit that I was wrong though, really thought he could turn it around after the Bexley Park meeting.
Oh well the curse of NW Kent strikes again!
Credit to Covered end choir, you kept going.