Yes one of the rose tinted brigade has had enough. Not at game or been to any other than palace but going by friends comments who have been to the game today we have been totally clueless.
Pardew must do the honourable thig and resign.
Have to say I'm with you there Ledge. Always been of the "get behind the manager" persuasion but it's looking bleak.
I don't get to games very often – none this season – but talking to family and friends who have season tickets as well as reading opinions on here tells me well enough how bad things are. The players aren't responding to his methods and he has to go.
He has to go. I have never seen such a scared side in my life. I was calling on my memory reserves to encourage me to stay for the second half but there was no way we were going to come back like the heroes of old when there was no belief in the team. Pardew will not last the weekend. Hopefully. No spirit, no purpose, no manager. Bye Alan, good luck kins:
I was hoping after two very poor performances where we scrapped a couple of points, that the corner had been turned and that we would start climbing out of the hole. It doesn't look like that and thus you have to wonder whether he has it in him to raise these players. Confidence is shot to pieces. I have to say that if I was on the board now, I'd be be very seriously contemplating his position.
[cite]Posted By: Czech_Addick[/cite]Have to say I'm with you there Ledge. Always been of the "get behind the manager" persuasion but it's looking bleak.
I don't get to games very often – none this season – but talking to family and friends who have season tickets as well as reading opinions on here tells me well enough how bad things are. The players aren't responding to his methods and he has to go.
Well, I've just seen two games and I didn't see any methods.
He used three left backs in 2 games & brought in one forward (Mcleod) who did OK only to drop him next game.
He cannot motivate the team, our squad is not so bad as to be in the bottom three. I've been one of those who backed him in the past despite the problems, but it's now gone too far.
Just pisses me off that he will get a payoff for failing.
[cite]Posted By: stonemuse[/cite]He cannot motivate the team, our squad is not so bad as to be in the bottom three. I've been one of those who backed him in the past despite the problems, but it's now gone too far.
Just pisses me off that he will get a payoff for failing.
Yep, that is what eats away at me as well, he will make cash out of being absolutely pathetic. The writing is on the wall, he will be gone very soon.
Was never keen on Pardew in the first place but have tried to get behind him as don't believe it helps the team by booing the manager, but you have had your chances Pardew, do us all a favour and back your bags.
However, there isn't much honour in football. And he's a stubborn bugger, as his team/tactical choices prove.
Trouble is for him, is that this is his first big failure and he won't want to admit that. He may have got booted out of the Boleyn, but he got them to Wembley. He's only taken us to the second division's relegation zone...
[cite]Posted By: Barn Door Varney[/cite]I just can't see how he can stay after this. The players we have are better that the performances we are seeing.
i don't agree. I know confidence is very low and the players have probably lost the respect of the manager. But i don't see any of our players that truly stick out as class. they might do a job if confidence was high but no more than mid table.
I mean in the past when we haven't been doing so well we have always had 1 or 2 players that you would worry that bigger clubs would be sniffing around. not now we don't. we are under par
My personal view is that if he failed to get us up this season, (or at least to the Play off finals), he would be going anyway because we couldn't afford his salary because the parachute payments had gone. In the end the cost of relegation would be even more catastrophic, so now the bullet has to be bitten. He should read the writing on the wall and resign. If he doesn't the decision of Chappell and co has just got a whole deal easier
Where we are now is not entirely his fault but that, in the end, isn't what counts. If the ship has a problem with it's rudder and the skipper can't steer it away from the rocks, time to replace him with somebody who can.
Where we are now is not entirely his fault but that, in the end, isn't what counts. If the ship has a problem with it's rudder and the skipper can't steer it away from the rocks, time to replace him with somebody who can.
Trouble is, though - in the programme recently it's been "it's my team now, playing the way I want them to play" rather than inheriting someone else's scraps. Oooops.
Very much doubt he will, but he could cheer many of the rest of our weekends up if he were to do it, wouldn't even bother sleeping on it Alan, your methods are not working here, time to go! Sure there is a risk that whoever comes in will do no better, but it's a risk worth taking in my opinion, as it is going from bad to worse and a drop by another division which is no way out of the realms of possibility, particularly when a squad's confidence is so low would be disastrous for us. I'd even take a mutual consent agreement, as that should at least reduce our financial liability.
He has to go. End of. Unfortunately a lot of managers can see the trough and they are right to take their chances and plunge their faces into it to help themselves. What seems to of been forgotten along the way is that the trough is often filled with the wages of people on little more than minimum wage. I know these plagers and managers have no shame about the source of their riches but it is up to the fans to remind them of this. A big problem I have is that those that hold the purse strings of the fans and investors labor are not able to write a contract that suits our terms and not those of everyone else. If you need someone to write a tight contract rather than one that works to the clubs detriment then pay someone to write suitable performance clauses into them, for players and managers. Don't out yourself into the same situation time after time where you reward poor performance. Learn from your mistakes Charlton and then we might move forward. For now we have no choice but to pay off tardew and replace internally, but without a huge stupidly written contract. Kins would appreciate the opportunity as would the fans. Forward Charlton, but with some financial sense. RANT OVER
[cite]Posted By: Steve Dowman[/cite]... but without a huge stupidly written contract.
Couldn't agree more, but the only way to do that is with an inexperienced manager, i.e. Kins as you say. No 'established' manager would accept such a contract, and the way the football world is, they get away with it.
This team has the stench of relagation all around it. No confidence, real passion or quality. Without a fundamental change in the coaching and motivation of the players we have WE WILL be rlegated.
he could save face and blame player sales and say he tried to be positive after a lot of his best players were sold against his wishes: Reid, boughie, big chris.. If it means he resigns who cares
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I don't get to games very often – none this season – but talking to family and friends who have season tickets as well as reading opinions on here tells me well enough how bad things are. The players aren't responding to his methods and he has to go.
Well, I've just seen two games and I didn't see any methods.
He used three left backs in 2 games & brought in one forward (Mcleod) who did OK only to drop him next game.
Cant see him ever resigning, ego far too big.
Just pisses me off that he will get a payoff for failing.
Makes you feel great huh. . .
you have had your chances Pardew, do us all a favour and back your bags.
And you meant to say 'Oops'
However, there isn't much honour in football. And he's a stubborn bugger, as his team/tactical choices prove.
Trouble is for him, is that this is his first big failure and he won't want to admit that. He may have got booted out of the Boleyn, but he got them to Wembley. He's only taken us to the second division's relegation zone...
i don't agree. I know confidence is very low and the players have probably lost the respect of the manager. But i don't see any of our players that truly stick out as class. they might do a job if confidence was high but no more than mid table.
I mean in the past when we haven't been doing so well we have always had 1 or 2 players that you would worry that bigger clubs would be sniffing around. not now we don't. we are under par
Where we are now is not entirely his fault but that, in the end, isn't what counts. If the ship has a problem with it's rudder and the skipper can't steer it away from the rocks, time to replace him with somebody who can.
Trouble is, though - in the programme recently it's been "it's my team now, playing the way I want them to play" rather than inheriting someone else's scraps. Oooops.
who comes in ? who can we afford.
Couldn't agree more, but the only way to do that is with an inexperienced manager, i.e. Kins as you say. No 'established' manager would accept such a contract, and the way the football world is, they get away with it.
Cos the ones you have bought in have done an amazing job.