At Newcastle they feel that they can afford to upset Kinnear as he is going to leave soon anyway.
Ah, Les Reed and his Christmas turkeys, anyone?
Most journalists are alright - it's the editors' agendas that tend to screw everything up. Especially when a back-page story starts to move to the front pages (which the Newcastle saga has done) and people start to demand a story that isn't there.
Alex Ferguson's rants to the print media are legendary.
[cite]Posted By: Ledge[/cite]
Alec Ferguson doesn't get treated like most other managers because these hacks know they'll get it. Time for these managers to fight back and rightly so
Newcastle's an odd case because it's got a local media with the clout that London local papers can only dream of - thinking of the Chronicle's Alan Oliver, who was more or less the mouthpiece of Freddie Shepherd while he ran the club.
It takes some doing to make a room full of football journalists,
filling their faces with cheese-flavour slice sandwiches and belching
rich hot fugs of cheese-flavour gas from every orifice, look like
they hold the moral high ground, but yesterday Newcastle interim
manager Joke Kinnear managed it. Referencing the comedic look of his
namesake Roy - hapless, confused, sweaty and fat - he addressed a
throng of hacks by calling them all useless c**ts and ... er ...
actually, why is he being pilloried for this, exactly?
Common sense doesn't hang around for long at Newcastle, however, and
normal service was quickly resumed when the suit heading some
consortium or other planning to flush their money down the toilet
revealed he had spoken to Kevin Keegan about returning to the club
should they buy St Jongleurs Park lock, stock and barrel from current
owner Mike Ashley. "I am hugely impressed with him," announced
Jonathan Cleland, who presumably also likes shiny things and says
"coo!" whenever someone switches the lights on and it goes from dark
to not dark. "There is a strong mutual interest in working together,"
continued Cleland, with reference to the fact that his South
Africa-based gaggle of businessmen are quite happy to fling money at
an unsolvable problem, and that Keegan is quite happy to waste it all
on promising youngsters such as David Beckham, Thierry Henry, Peter
Beardsley and Alfredo di Stefano.
"He is our preferred option," stated Cleland, who claims to be 80%
confident of securing a GBP300m deal for the club, paying half the
money up front before selling up at a huge prof ... hold on ... then
settling the remainder within the year. "However we can't make any
concrete decisions on the management position until negotiations on
our planned takeover are further advanced coo! Spangly milk-bottle
top is spangly! Coo! Shiny bright yellow air-colour is coming out of
the ceiling!"
I speak like that and when i am angry or defending myself i sound just like Joe Kinear
he has been the butt of many jokes and was being made to look like a mug and he stood up to thses faceless and gutless gutter press and put them straight fair fecking play to him, i bet he wont hide when things go wrong at the toon and he wont refuse to face his critics (the fans) week in week out until he is out of a job,
Football is full of people who speak like that especially within the changing room and in the stands, Joe is afer all a Paddy as well and i dont know a nation that swears more than them and i should know as i am half of one myself,
And for me it was a breath of fresh air that there are still normal down to earth football folk in the prem today i bet any other journo will now think twice before crossing Joe and not having the opportunity of attending the weekley press confrence.
I have had the pleasure of an evening with Joe just after his heart probs, in the dog owners enclosure at Walthamstow Dogs and he and Vincent Jones were real nice down to earth guys who are exactly how you heard Joe in that interview
and the computerised version... http://download.guardian.co.uk/audio/kip/standalone/football/1223044467608/8636/gdn.tec.081003.sc.Kinnear_Computerised.mp3
It is nice to know my profession is held in such high regard : )
:-) not aimed at you NS, more the tabloids, which I see as a different kettle of fish altogether. Anyone who reads Mediawatch on 365 can't help to get to the point where they simply don't believe a word that they say. They're constantly exposing exclusives that are not, "we told you so"s when they actually told you the opposite and headlines that just don't match the story - e.g. Ballack Says He Can't Afford to Buy House in London on £120k a Week Wage" : story - Ballack says that he'd prefer to rent for the moment. A lot of people are pretty thick and will believe what they read. I can imagine that it must be miserable having complete strangers just reading lies about what you said and, for that reason, I liked the fact that Kinnear just treated them with utter contempt. They'll never give him a fair go anyway so you might as well just get it off your chest.
I saw one the other day where a tabloid said Toddy said "Play Me and I'll get 15 Goals" and demanded that he got in ahead of those in the team. Of course there were no quotes. I asked someone who was there and apparently what he said was that he didn't want to say how many goals he'd get. The journo said would 10-15 be nice and he agreed it would be. Suddenly he's rubbishing his colleagues and making promises/demands of his boss. If that happens with our little club I dread to think of the stuff they make up about someone like Kinnear.
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Or even national route. Standards these days! ; -)[/quote]
Yes the amount of typos I have made this week has been shocking. Standards must indeed be slipping : (
If he had walked out after this (the greatest ever opening to a press conference), I think it would have had a greater impact!
LOL
PS...thanks for the honest response[/quote]
No I couldn't be bothered DA9
Not really a typo more homophonic ; - )
Ah, Les Reed and his Christmas turkeys, anyone?
Most journalists are alright - it's the editors' agendas that tend to screw everything up. Especially when a back-page story starts to move to the front pages (which the Newcastle saga has done) and people start to demand a story that isn't there.
Alex Ferguson's rants to the print media are legendary.
Fergie refuses to speak to the BBC doesn't he?
Redknapp, Allardyce and maybe another one whose name escapes me refuse to speak to the BBC because of the Panorama investigation into bungs.
Harry now talks to beeb, started end of last season,probably because of the cup run
Joke Club, and Joke Pundit
Scott Murray
03 October 2008
YOU CAN'T SCRIPT THE SORT OF PERFORMANCE PUT ON AT NEWCASTLE UNITED
YESTERDAY (ACTUALLY YOU CAN, BECAUSE IT'S HERE (
http://guardian.chtah.com/a/tBI5j9IAY30QpAe9jDFAcMxUi71/fvr16
)).
It takes some doing to make a room full of football journalists,
filling their faces with cheese-flavour slice sandwiches and belching
rich hot fugs of cheese-flavour gas from every orifice, look like
they hold the moral high ground, but yesterday Newcastle interim
manager Joke Kinnear managed it. Referencing the comedic look of his
namesake Roy - hapless, confused, sweaty and fat - he addressed a
throng of hacks by calling them all useless c**ts and ... er ...
actually, why is he being pilloried for this, exactly?
Common sense doesn't hang around for long at Newcastle, however, and
normal service was quickly resumed when the suit heading some
consortium or other planning to flush their money down the toilet
revealed he had spoken to Kevin Keegan about returning to the club
should they buy St Jongleurs Park lock, stock and barrel from current
owner Mike Ashley. "I am hugely impressed with him," announced
Jonathan Cleland, who presumably also likes shiny things and says
"coo!" whenever someone switches the lights on and it goes from dark
to not dark. "There is a strong mutual interest in working together,"
continued Cleland, with reference to the fact that his South
Africa-based gaggle of businessmen are quite happy to fling money at
an unsolvable problem, and that Keegan is quite happy to waste it all
on promising youngsters such as David Beckham, Thierry Henry, Peter
Beardsley and Alfredo di Stefano.
"He is our preferred option," stated Cleland, who claims to be 80%
confident of securing a GBP300m deal for the club, paying half the
money up front before selling up at a huge prof ... hold on ... then
settling the remainder within the year. "However we can't make any
concrete decisions on the management position until negotiations on
our planned takeover are further advanced coo! Spangly milk-bottle
top is spangly! Coo! Shiny bright yellow air-colour is coming out of
the ceiling!"
I do not see what the big deal is,
I speak like that and when i am angry or defending myself i sound just like Joe Kinear
he has been the butt of many jokes and was being made to look like a mug and he stood up to thses faceless and gutless gutter press and put them straight fair fecking play to him, i bet he wont hide when things go wrong at the toon and he wont refuse to face his critics (the fans) week in week out until he is out of a job,
Football is full of people who speak like that especially within the changing room and in the stands, Joe is afer all a Paddy as well and i dont know a nation that swears more than them and i should know as i am half of one myself,
And for me it was a breath of fresh air that there are still normal down to earth football folk in the prem today i bet any other journo will now think twice before crossing Joe and not having the opportunity of attending the weekley press confrence.
I have had the pleasure of an evening with Joe just after his heart probs, in the dog owners enclosure at Walthamstow Dogs and he and Vincent Jones were real nice down to earth guys who are exactly how you heard Joe in that interview
Top fecking Boy mr kinear
http://download.guardian.co.uk/audio/kip/standalone/football/1223044467608/8636/gdn.tec.081003.sc.Kinnear_Computerised.mp3
:-) not aimed at you NS, more the tabloids, which I see as a different kettle of fish altogether. Anyone who reads Mediawatch on 365 can't help to get to the point where they simply don't believe a word that they say. They're constantly exposing exclusives that are not, "we told you so"s when they actually told you the opposite and headlines that just don't match the story - e.g. Ballack Says He Can't Afford to Buy House in London on £120k a Week Wage" : story - Ballack says that he'd prefer to rent for the moment. A lot of people are pretty thick and will believe what they read. I can imagine that it must be miserable having complete strangers just reading lies about what you said and, for that reason, I liked the fact that Kinnear just treated them with utter contempt. They'll never give him a fair go anyway so you might as well just get it off your chest.
I saw one the other day where a tabloid said Toddy said "Play Me and I'll get 15 Goals" and demanded that he got in ahead of those in the team. Of course there were no quotes. I asked someone who was there and apparently what he said was that he didn't want to say how many goals he'd get. The journo said would 10-15 be nice and he agreed it would be. Suddenly he's rubbishing his colleagues and making promises/demands of his boss. If that happens with our little club I dread to think of the stuff they make up about someone like Kinnear.