can anyone tell me what Sam and Thomas actually bring to the team. I can't remember the last time either actually got to the byline and put in a cross, decent or otherwise. I can't remember the last time either of them took on the full-back on the outside, irrespective of whether they beat them or not. It's easy to cut inside and offload it to someone else. When will they take responsibility and do something. Last week Basey came on and twice got to the byline and put in a cross. He hasn't got much pace but he has a sweet left foot, a decent shot, and puts in a decent dead ball, as for todays second. He is also better suited to play in front of Youga. He is willing to help out defensively and if Youga goes forward can easily slot in at RB. With Bouazza now in the building Thomas especially is under pressure to perform, Sam just isn't up to it full stop, and these obsevations are not based on just today, but last season. For me Basey deserves to play on the left with Bouzza on the right. Thoughts ?
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Sam? I just don't get him at all.
JT is a good outlet and will win us free kicks. He can also make defenders look very ordinary. Against that he produces relatively few good crosses given his good approach work and he doesn't score enough goals.
I , like most other on here, are consisntently p**ssed off with the lack of end product from both Thomas & sam.
Thomas drew a foul & a booking from their no 6 in the first half.....inside his own half ! - His trickery should be done on the edge of their box & not ours. Not sure od the stats but I'm pretty sure he hasn't won us a penalty during his time with us - certainly not during the last few seasons.
a great outlet for us as he rarly losses the ball, but as a winger.....forget it.
The day your opinions are shared by MANY on here is the day we all give up.
he goes past defenders but is so one sided its unreal, I personally think his balls in aren't too bad (better than Sam) so why don't we stick him on the right and let him whip a few balls in? It really gets to me that we don't even try this
Why? - defence looked ok although Weaver was having a bit of a mare holding onto the ball. Will give him the benefit today as the weather was iffy,
As Prdew pointed out in his press conference afterwards, the midfield was getting over -run. All I have heard on here this summer is that I shoudnt worry because our saviour in the shape of a 16 year old is here to save us. Well, I think a few of you (and him) got abit of a shock today. Racon played well as did Varney, but as for Thomas & Sam .........4 out of 10.
As for who was the better side - only one winner for me today, and they went back down the M4 tonight with nothing.
For a wind up post, that's a 9/10, the final line is a f**king stunner
Just how were Swansea the better side? They might have had slightly more possesion than us but they didn't do anything with it, did they? I don't seem to remember Youga and Semedo getting taken to the cleaners and Weaver being put under pressure from constant crosses. I thought we contained them quite easily, really and we took our chances well. Weaver had a couple of spills to make but their keeper also had to make a couple of saves. A much deserved win, IMO.
if that is not a wind up post then i dont know what is
Yes Shelvey had a quiet game BUT he took the best corners we have had for ages one of which resulted in a goal and was holding against a 5 man midfield yet you state that thomas and sam did little so Racon must have managed the whole 5 did he?
Racon was my motm
Varney did feck all but work hard yet you see him as someone who played well, anyone can track back and chase down defenders
how many shots did varney have, as a striker in 90 mins how many do you feel he should have
we won and you say it is a false dawn
why can you not see any positives out of a 2 nil home win yes swansea played nice football but the better team FFS if you are like this now how will you be in 6mths
I'd reckon they had about 12 or so, of which Weaver had to make 5 or 6 saves
we had a couple of shots at goal that I can recall - their keeper saved one from Sam (?) in the first half and the other from Varney right at the end.
Yes we scored two goals & they didn't, but on another day the opposition would have scored at least a couple from the efforts they had. So many times (esp 2nd half) they had a p[layer spare about 10 yards from our pen area, who rec'd the ball & had time to turn & have a shot.
When did our front line do this ??????? I'm not criticising Varney as he did all he could, but blame must be put on the supply line........the midfield.
Jon jo had to play against a 5 man midfield for most of the game and although at points the ball was going past him he was always there to recover put in a challenge and lay off an easy ball, his corners were 100 times better than the shite served up under curbs and pards so far
If you think varney had a good game then i dont know what you were watching because apart from a very weak header and a glaring miss at the end all he did was run around which is what your virtually criticising a sixteen year old for.
the point that riles me most is the false dawn, 1 game down 2 goals scored none conceded 3 points in the bag
i dont know why you go if a victory bno matter how it is taken is so poorly recieved
I'd reckon they had about 12 or so, of which Weaver had to make 5 or 6 saves
we had a couple of shots at goal that I can recall - their keeper saved one from Sam (?) in the first half and the other from Varney right at the end.
Yes we scored two goals & they didn't, but on another day the opposition would have scored at least a couple from the efforts they had. So many times (esp 2nd half) they had a p[layer spare about 10 yards from our pen area, who rec'd the ball & had time to turn & have a shot.
When did our front line do this ??????? I'm not criticising Varney as he did all he could, but blame must be put on the supply line........the midfield.[/quote]
How many times did they get behind us? Not many. They had a fair few shots from long range most of which were well wide or easy gathers for Weaver.
Their keeper made a good save from Sam and from Varney from close in.
As Mr Pardew said we were stronger in the areas that matter by which I would hazard a guess were the areas of putting the ball in their net and keeping the ball out of our net.
I haven't seen any stats but I'd guess we had 100% of the goals scored.
The best team always wins, the rest is only gossip.
7 Shots On Target 11
0 Shots Off Target 5
19 Fouls (Conceded) 13
7 Corners 3
0 Yellow Cards 2
0 Red Cards 1
Agree the service to Varney and Gray was lacking partly as Swansea played five in the middle and kept it very tight and partly as the delivery was poor.
Bodde (sp?) their number 6 ran the midfield and was the most impressive player on the pitch. I can see why other clubs are in for him. Racon did well and looked a lot more comfortable when Holland came on and he(Matt) sat and Racon could move forward a bit more.
Thomas had lots of good possession as did Sam but didn't do enough with it. Great run and move involving Sam in the first half when he jinked into the box only to take too long to pick out a pass.
I thought one side flattered to deceived. Good passing and movement but no end result and couldn't defend a set piece.
I felt the other were strong, hard working and resolute and took the chances.
Doesn't that sound like much change from the last couple of years only the teams have been reversed.
If we can get Bailey in to play alongside Racon with cameos from Shelvey and Holland plus Bouazza performs it will be a different midfield.
Couple of defenders in and it looks like a decent squad IMHO.
Hudson - what a great start.
Fortune - did really well and showed what a good player he CAN be. Just needs to do that for another 45 games.
Semedo - Very Solid. Didn't give their winger a sniff but doesn't offer much going forward. Will be interesting to see if Moo2 gets in the side v Watford.
Youga - Started poorly and made a few errors but got better and was fully in control.
Off on hols happy.
Its all well n good expecting him to get it to the byline & cross it in but whats the point when we've got two strikers that won two headers between them all game (inc the goal) & absolutely no support coming through the middle from the centre mids? We dont flood the box enough to make good use of the wing. I've gave up with Lloyd Sam now, absolute waste of space. Stick Basey left mid & Thomas on the right...At least they both have a footballing brain.
Cant say anyone apart from Sam had a mare, Shelvey was quiet but give the lad a chance. Varney got some stick but no idea why...Not much supply & ran his nuts off across the back line...Was constantly closing their full backs down and making them shank it out or preventing them from getting the ball forward.
Good win considering how much of the ball they had...Next two league games will be the real test though.