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Barnsley v Charlton - match thread

edited April 2008 in General Charlton
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    Charlton: Weaver; Halford, Thatcher, McCarthy, Bougherra; Wagstaff, Holland, Semedo, Ambrose, Varney; Iwelumo.

    Subs: Randolph, Sodje, Basey, Wagstaff, Gray
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    At 16 years and 59 days the midfielder becomes the youngest played to represent the club, beating previous incumbent Paul Konchesky by little over three weeks.

    Manager Alan Pardew has made four changes for the final away game of the season with recalls for Chris Iwelumo and Luke Varney.

    Iwelumo, Charlton's leading marksman this season with ten goals, is expected to operate alone up front.

    Varney will start wide on the left and Ambrose will likely provide the ammunition from the opposite flank with Jose Semedo coming into midfield.

    But the real story of the day surrounds the prodigiously talented Shelvey.

    The attacking midfielder, who turned 16 the day Charlton bowed out of the FA Youth Cup, has only just been named in the U18 squad for next season yet has bulged the net 11 times in academy football.

    He also takes the number of players Pardew has utilised this season to 37 - beating the previous record number of 36 from Charlton's first season in the Football League.

    Since the play-off ending defeat at Queens Park Rangers Leroy Lita and Lee Cook have both ended their loan spells at the club and returned to Reading and Fulham respectively.

    The other two players to make way are Zheng Zhi and Andy Gray with the striker on the bench together with academy talisman Scott Wagstaff, who has made an impressive 38 appearances this season for the reserves and U18s.

    Fit again Sam Sodje is also named in reserve after dislocating a toe at Plymouth and youngsters Grant Basey and Darren Randolph fill up the bench.

    Barnsley, still not secured of their Championship safety, have midfield firepower in the shape of captain Brian Howard while Chelsea destroyer Kayode Odejayi leads the line up front and ex-Addick Jamal Campbell-Ryce operates out wide.

    Charlton: Weaver; Halford, Thatcher, McCarthy, Bougherra; Wagstaff, Holland, Semedo, Ambrose, Varney; Iwelumo.

    Subs: Randolph, Sodje, Basey, Wagstaff, Gray

    Barnsley: Steele, Van Homoet, Kozluk, Souza, Nyatanga; Campbell-Ryce, Hassell, Howard, Leon; Macken, Odejayi.

    Subs: Letheren, Butterfield, Togwell, Ferenczi, Nardiello.

    Referee: R Beeby
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    We have two Wagstaff's?
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    Does this mean Halford and Sodje are going to stay here for next season
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    Dippy OS has Wagstaff starting & on the bench.....Duh!!
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    Still no place for GIBBS...........!
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    With Iweluuuuuuumo up front on his own, does that mean our sole tactic will be lumping it vaguely towards him....?
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: cafcinperth[/cite]Does this mean Halford and Sodje are going to stay here for next season[/quote]

    Mou2 is suspended so that precludes him playing, therefore it makes sense to play Halford.

    Sodje is out of contract at Reading at the end of this season and presumably Reading don't want/need him back for the last few games. Interesting that he is on the bench ahead of Fortune for example and perhaps this is an indication that it's Fortune who is likely to move on this summer and that Sodje will sign permanently.
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    Charlton's correct line up:

    Weaver, Halford, McCarthy, Bougherra, Thatcher, Ambrose, Holland, Semedo, Shelvey, Varney, Iwelumo
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    I wonder what we can read into this team as a portent for the future?

    Holland AND Thatcher to be offered a new contract.

    As BFR mentions, Fortune gone, Sodje to sign permanently ..... and Halford?

    Perhaps Basey gets a run at LB later?
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Dippy OS has Wagstaff starting & on the bench.....Duh!![/quote]

    At least they beat the BBC this week.
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]I wonder what we can read into this team as a portent for the future?

    Holland AND Thatcher to be offered a new contract.

    As BFR mentions, Fortune gone, Sodje to sign permanently ..... and Halford?

    Perhaps Basey gets a run at LB later?[/quote]


    You could interpret Basey getting the nod over Youga as meaning that the latter is on his way too.
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    Varney being played out of position again.. It hasn't been an easy season for him.
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    [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Dippy OS has Wagstaff starting & on the bench.....Duh!!

    At least they beat the BBC this week.

    Right, BFR ....... the OS was way behind the Beeb live text page.

    I wonder how 'live' the OS live match update page will be this week?
    Often it can be as much as 20 minutes behind the action.

    Perhaps they should rename it: Official Site 'half-dead update' page?

    ;o)
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    Cant see any logic in playing Thatcher. Wasted opportunity.
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    [cite]Posted By: Paddy Powell[/cite]Varney being played out of position again.. It hasn't been an easy season for him.

    Perhaps, Paddy, Varns gets a free role today - like he did against Palace?

    Pards told him then: "Play like you would in the playground........."
    Just for fun.
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    Basey can cover at LB and on the left-wing, and maybe as a defensive midfielder.

    Unless Shelvey plays a blinder/there are other injuries/sendings off etc I wouldn't expect him to play the whole game, but I'd think/hope he should get a good 60 minutes. If so then presumably Ambrose will drop in the centre midfield at that point and Wagstaff might come on to get a run-out for the last few minutes.
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Fish[/cite]Cant see any logic in playing Thatcher. Wasted opportunity.[/quote]

    Maybe, but you can't play too many debutants/young players at once and I'd rather have a solid/experienced defence playing behind what has been a weak midfield. That should take some of the pressure off of Shelvey etc.
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    [cite]Posted By: Fish[/cite]Cant see any logic in playing Thatcher. Wasted opportunity.

    Youga's hamstrung ......... so without a conventional left midfielder, he needed someone to sit without the defence being left shorthanded.

    If Ambrose plays narrow on the right, that would give Halford carte blanche to bomb forward on the overlap, so essential that Thatcher holds his position to prevent the defence being exposed.
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    Anyone excited ..... you know that 3 o'clock thrill?
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    I fancy more than one shot on target this week :-p
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    Hope we sign sodje, not a great fan of halford (this season) but thought couple of yrs back when he choose reading over us we'd missed out bit time he was immense at colchester, could actually cross the ball and got up n down the line loads, hmmmmmmmmm just seems so unmobile this yr and loves just to hoof it, think thats r crap tactics than he's in-abilities.

    glad shelvys starting as varney - hopefully he'll have a more floating role than stuck out wide, and we'll use semedo to mop things up and give some more freedom to thatcher and halford to use the flanks and get forward.
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    edited April 2008
    [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]I wonder what we can read into this team as a portent for the future?

    Holland AND Thatcher to be offered a new contract.

    As BFR mentions, Fortune gone, Sodje to sign permanently ..... and Halford?

    Perhaps Basey gets a run at LB later?


    You could interpret Basey getting the nod over Youga as meaning that the latter is on his way too.
    Youga's done his hamstring, BFR - so unfit.
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    mcCarthy nearly gives the opposition another goal
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    [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]Anyone excited ..... you know that 3 o'clock thrill?

    yeah,i really think we will win!
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    edited April 2008
    Are we winning yet?

    Why not?

    Pards OUT!!!!

    (forgot the smiley)

    ;o)
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    Morning gents. See Gills almost certainly relegated this morning.
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    Here's the excitement so far:

    5:13
    Shot by Jamal Campbell-Ryce (Barnsley) right-footed from right channel (25 yards), save (caught) by Nicky Weaver (Charlton).

    2:39
    Goal kick taken long by Nicky Weaver (Charlton).

    2:25
    Shot by Diego Leon (Barnsley) right-footed from right channel (25 yards), over the bar.

    1:23
    Attacking throw-in by Ben Thatcher (Charlton).

    0:28
    Chris Iwelumo (Charlton) caught offside. Direct free kick taken right-footed by Luke Steele (Barnsley) from own half, resulting in open play.
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    booooooooooooooooooooo

    that shelveys shite
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    team practically picked itself today.
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