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The week that was - September 7th 1985. Charlton 3 Palace 1

edited September 2007 in General Charlton
Charlton Athletic 3 (0) (Reid 56, 69 (pens), Pearson 64) Crystal Palace 1 (1) (Gray 31 (pen)). The Valley. Att: 6,637

Charlton: Johns, Humphrey, Reid, Loveridge, Thompson, Pender, Stuart, Aizlewood, Pearson, Shipley, Flanagan. Unused sub: Lee.

Palace: Wood, Hughton, Lindsay, Finnigan, Droy, Cannon, Irvine (Higginbottom 70), Ketteridge, Galloway, Gray, Barber.

Referee: D Hedges (Oxford)

Penalties: Gray penalty goal for Palace after a foul on Droy by Pearson. Reid two penalty's after Cannon bought down Stuart and then Gray handled. Wood saved Reid's first kick and Stuart hit home the rebound but the ref had already blown for a retake because the keeper had moved before the ball was struck.
Reid then put his name in the record books by taking a third penalty in the 82nd minute after Lindsay had fouled Pearson, but this time Woods save was deemed legal.

GROUND SHARING!!!

Fans were hit with the bombshell news, contained in a leaflet distributed before the match, that Charlton had agreed to share Selhurst Park with Crystal Palace. In fact the club were lodgers from start to finish of this silly arrangement, which was doomed to failure from the outset.
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  • Jeez, what a strange day. Forget the 4 penalties in one game thing, which was weird enough.

    None of us had any idea what was to come. We'd had a lunchtime drink at the Meridian club, strolled through Charlton Park and down to the ground - just idle chat, as you do, about the team, football in general and anything else that you talk about. Bought the programme outside the ground and got handed the leaflet.

    It didn't seem real, somebody was having a laugh but it wasn't funny.

    7 long years.......but it was the making of our club - a club in every sense of the word, where you felt you belonged.
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]long years.......but it was the making of our club - a club in every sense of the word, where you felt you belonged.

    Great line that Oggy
  • Oggy,do you remember the stoke game 2 weeks later when fans ran on to the pitch to stage a protest at half time,lots gathered in the center circle and we made a loud protest?

    They the DIRECTORS didn't like it at all.
  • But look at the attendance - well under 7K, and for a local derby.
  • [cite]Posted By: BlackForestReds[/cite]But look at the attendance - well under 7K, and for a local derby.
    I was going to say exactly the same thing BlackForest Gateau. Let's not forget that the club really was in a very poor place back in 1985. A crumbling ground & very little interest from supporters. We took an almighty step backwards when we moved to Selhurst Park but we have taken many, many steps forward since then.
  • i was at the game but remember not really believing that we were gonna be going to selhurst and thinking that no.75 bus journey takes forever to get over there...
    how crap were our at gates at the time ....
    it's amazing to think gow far we've come since those ground sharing days , our home support has gone 350% and our away support has gone up 5%
    what an amazing job the board and mr curbishley have done turning our club/ground into such a beautiful thing , not forgetting the great work sir lennie of lawrence did keeping us alive in those dark days at selhurst
  • here here ooooh aaaah, a bit of praise for sir Lennie of too, he does go un mentioned alot of the time.
  • "But look at the attendance - well under 7K, and for a local derby."

    Not sure what the capacity was but it can't have been much more, as the east terrace was closed.

    I've still got the handout from the game indoors. Watched the centenery DVD and recognised myself on the ptich against Stoke at half and full time.
  • Although I was definately at this game and remember all the penalties were in front of us SAT in the covered end, I just can't for the life of me remember the leaflet being handed out and only vaugley remember any talk about it.
    Well it was 22 years ago, about 10 weeks after I go married.
  • Feels like a lifetime ago, Was only 11 but I still loved the way the Valley looked before we closed the doors, Old and wooden but great childhood memories of the stewards letting us kids in at halftime for nothing, Kept us out of trouble for an hour or so and the burger van bloke more often than not gave us a burger each for free (although they were just the overdone ones that he hadn't sold) makes me miss it all.
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  • 15 at the time.got my program and had a look inside to check for some canon stuff,had to check as i was trying to win a photocopier or something stupid and then saw this ridiculous leaflet.it was clearly a wind-up,well it had to be didn't it. i remember everyone else's faces with the same wtf expressions.

    can't really remember the game,palace fixtures were always meaningless to me then.our side was one of my favorites though and with all this nonsense going on,we went up to division one after so many years of competing at the other end of the table.

    lennie lawrence is a legend.
  • Bump this is Charltons History........Bump.
  • I was in padlock bit of terracing for this game, remember the black radio cab that the BBC used being by the The Valley club after the game, getting the fans views on the move. Not sure how much went to air.
  • Funny thing about that game, I can't remember any Crystal supporters being there. Obviously there must have been but I suppose other things took over and the shock of that leaflet!
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    I walked in and hadn't been handed a leaflet, so when I saw the others studying something intently I assumed it was a flyer for free beer or something. Looked over one of their shoulders and couldn't believe what I was seeing! Used to stand in the NW terrace at the time, it really was like a funeral that day even though we beat Palace.

    For years I have wondered if I imagined it, or was there something in one of the local papers in the week leading up to the game? I have a feeling the Kentish Times had what I assumed was a scare story about not being able to continue at The Valley, but since they shut the East terrace that summer, the doom mongers were out in force. Having had so many brushes with oblivion at Charlton I suppose many of us just took most things with a pinch of salt.
  • I was a ball boy at this game, as I was at quite a few at the beginning of this season, including the Stoke game. I sat at the covered end to the left of nicky's goal.
  • I was a ball boy at this game, as I was at quite a few at the beginning of this season, including the Stoke game. I sat at the covered end to the left of nicky's goal.
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    Good looking team that, agree withother comments, sir Lennie did an amazing job in the circumstances.
  • Others don't find it as surreal on the thread about a message from our chairman apparently we are on the verge of this happening again
  • Got handed the leaflet outside the covered end turnstyles, I seriously thought it was a spoof, only for reality to dawn on us a couple of weeks later. It was the begining of the end of the begining. I doubt we will ever witness anything that galvanizes a small group of supporters to achieve such great things. I will always feel proud to have been part of the proceedings, despite it being quite depressing at times.
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  • [cite]Posted By: Big William[/cite]
    For years I have wondered if I imagined it, or was there something in one of the local papers in the week leading up to the game? I have a feeling the Kentish Times had what I assumed was a scare story about not being able to continue at The Valley, but since they shut the East terrace that summer, the doom mongers were out in force. Having had so many brushes with oblivion at Charlton I suppose many of us just took most things with a pinch of salt.

    There was an article in the Sidcup Times a week or two before the palace game. It even mentioned sharing with them was a possibility.
  • This was the only match that I missed that season. I was at my cousin's wedding over in Essex. Was in the church listening to the radio when Peter Burrows announced that we were leaving the Valley and heading to Selhurst. Me and my dad couldn't believe it. My dad vowed that he wouldn't watch Charlton all of the while they were at Selhurst and he was true to his word. Sadly he never watched Charlton ever again at the Valley as he died in September 1992
  • I was at the game, covered end about block F.

    I wonder what the song at the time was to ridicule shite away support.
  • Another Palace memory but apart from the result not a good day.
  • Remember it well and the Stoke game of course where we got onto the pitch. Got a bit heated down on the terrace to left hand side of the covered end (where the clock used to be on the floodlight pylon). Emptied my pockets of all the change I had by chucking it at the Old Bill who had got a bit handy with a few of the lads down the front trying to invade the pitch. Charlton had been such a big part of my life up to that point, I think I only ever saw us play at "home" at Sellout no more than half a dozen times. First season ticket I had was the season we were at Upton Park, a proper football ground.
  • Went to the Sportsmans casino in Tottenham Court Rd that night for a birthday celebration. Saw and spoke to Lennie and Jimmy Hill. Both were very friendly but we were in shock. My old man wouldn't leave them alone as he had been going to the Valley all his life.
  • Lest we forget...

    It was a handy team alright, that was what made it all the more galling. Lennie had done a great job in close season, similar to last year by SCP. Pearson had actually been announced at the final game of the previous season, as I recall.

    There was no internet and nobody knew each other beyond their own friends. I was seething, and went to the next Supporters Club meeting, expecting everybody else to be seething too, and to find common cause. The ground move wasn't even on the agenda. They warbled on for ages about coach versus train for "away" travel. The irony of it. Lennie was there, looking nervous. In the end I grabbed the mike and asked them how come the fact that from now on EVERY game was an away game, wasn't even being discussed. Nobody even answered me directly. They thought I had a cheek, turning up like that and challenging the wisdom of the directors, and the long standing Supporters Club officials. But lurking in the background, as I discovered a couple of years later, were Airman Brown and Steve Dixon. And they were thinking about a different piece of paper...
  • was the East stand condemned/closed by that stage, there is a video of it somewhere on here I think
  • I remember getting the leaflet that we were moving to shithurst.

    I don't remember a thing about the game.


  • I remember seeing something in the paper a couple of weeks before about us sharing at Selhurst but assumed it was a joke as teams don't move from their traditional ground, how wrong I was when I got the notice on entering the ground.

    Would have been good to see Mark Reid get a hat trick of penalties as I'm not too sure how often thats done in a game, the last one he hit straight but it caught the goalies foot (George Wood I think, and went over the bar.
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