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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,353
    Blimey, with 52 weeks to go for 'Thread of the Year 2026' we've already got a possible winner.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,075
    MrOneLung said:
    Thanks guys, Interesting responses. I always used to work on the basis that I didn’t need to be exceptional all the time to make money because the bar in where I was competing was generally quite low but now I’m starting to think I should have aimed higher and been a billionaire by the time I retired…I could have bought Charlton with the money and saved us all from all the heartache of recent years 😉

    Not to mention all the money you’ve saved on milk over the years. 
    Ordinarily you would have thought so, but I’m old enough to be of a generation when there was free school milk, which government minister Margeret ‘Thatcher the milk snatcher’ stopped for the generations after us, and basically explains why all us old gits tend to be a lot taller than younger generations. Then you get to a turning point in life when, if you’re lucky, your tastes develop and you start to cut out the non-essentials like milk in coffee, so basically you are saving money you shouldn’t actually be spending in the first place. 
     

    Is that graph all relating to the same bloke - he loses 3 inches between the ages of 24 and 75?

    What if the poor sod hasn't got 3 inches to lose?!
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,715
    MrOneLung said:
    Thanks guys, Interesting responses. I always used to work on the basis that I didn’t need to be exceptional all the time to make money because the bar in where I was competing was generally quite low but now I’m starting to think I should have aimed higher and been a billionaire by the time I retired…I could have bought Charlton with the money and saved us all from all the heartache of recent years 😉

    Not to mention all the money you’ve saved on milk over the years. 
    Ordinarily you would have thought so, but I’m old enough to be of a generation when there was free school milk, which government minister Margeret ‘Thatcher the milk snatcher’ stopped for the generations after us, and basically explains why all us old gits tend to be a lot taller than younger generations. Then you get to a turning point in life when, if you’re lucky, your tastes develop and you start to cut out the non-essentials like milk in coffee, so basically you are saving money you shouldn’t actually be spending in the first place. 
     

    That’s the average for the UK. Your diet will likely be a lot better than a lot of other regions around the combined 4 nations because the south east and London in particular is a more wealthy and likely to be a healthier region than the rest of the UK. There are and will be exceptions to that but overall where the money is, ie London and the City, then that will be where diet and nutrition is more important and affordable. For my generation that nutrition included a bottle of milk every morning at school in their formative years. The average height for 60 year olds in that chart will basically be people that started to miss out on that, plus if they’ve failed to supplement their protein intake (which is likely to be the majority) then they will literally be shrinking.
    Chatting out of your Harris, as per.

    On average over the past century humans have got 4 inches taller, across the entire world's population.

    Some places like Japan this number is even higher as they have significantly changed diets and nutrition and health has significantly increased. 

    In the last couple of decades some countries have started to Plateau with the growth spurt (Germany, Netherlands, the Nordic countries) 

    No chance your generation were taller on average, literally all of the data suggests otherwise 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,383
    wolfgang said:

    I fancied a hot drink, didn’t want chocolate, so order a black americano

    transaction typed in, i pay for it, young lad goes off and puts the hot water in a designated cup.

    Black coffee gets handed over and young lad says …’the milk is over there…’

    me…’thanks, but I don’t need milk with my black coffee’


    every older generation over millennium has doubted the generations that will follow but, fck me, the planet is screwed when this lot takes over

    I would worry more about pretentious prats who order "americanos" at a football ground.

    Edit: I see Off_it beat me to it. Sorry!
    I have been in two cafes in the past week (and I mean cafes - old fashioned greasy spoon type cafes) one in Portsmouth run by an old bloke and his wife and the other the GMT opposite the River Ale House run by a  middle aged Turkish chap, and ordered a black coffee and a white coffee. In both I have been told they can do me two Americanos and give me some milk for one of them. 

    Like Offy said - the game's gone... 


  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,353

    I fancied a hot drink, didn’t want chocolate, so order a black americano

    transaction typed in, i pay for it, young lad goes off and puts the hot water in a designated cup.

    Black coffee gets handed over and young lad says …’the milk is over there…’

    me…’thanks, but I don’t need milk with my black coffee’


    every older generation over millennium has doubted the generations that will follow but, fck me, the planet is screwed when this lot takes over

    I just made a very rough and ready list of the ten people that scare me the most on this planet. Their ages were as follows: 73, 79, 72, 54, 61, 76, 41, 86, 46 and 41. 

    You talk about 'low-bars' but the upcoming generation has the lowest bar of all to be better. 
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 6,104
    Ive worked as a barista, lots of people order black coffee, and tea, because they want to add the milk themselves to add the right amount for them, maybe he thought you wanted to do this so was then telling you where the milk was?
    Nah - I’m with @letthegoodtimesroll on this one.  I’m always asking to have more hot water in my black coffee so I actually get a full cup. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,584
    Off_it said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Thanks guys, Interesting responses. I always used to work on the basis that I didn’t need to be exceptional all the time to make money because the bar in where I was competing was generally quite low but now I’m starting to think I should have aimed higher and been a billionaire by the time I retired…I could have bought Charlton with the money and saved us all from all the heartache of recent years 😉

    Not to mention all the money you’ve saved on milk over the years. 
    Ordinarily you would have thought so, but I’m old enough to be of a generation when there was free school milk, which government minister Margeret ‘Thatcher the milk snatcher’ stopped for the generations after us, and basically explains why all us old gits tend to be a lot taller than younger generations. Then you get to a turning point in life when, if you’re lucky, your tastes develop and you start to cut out the non-essentials like milk in coffee, so basically you are saving money you shouldn’t actually be spending in the first place. 
     

    Is that graph all relating to the same bloke - he loses 3 inches between the ages of 24 and 75?

    What if the poor sod hasn't got 3 inches to lose?!
    It’s Benjamin Button.
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,346
    Main character syndrome 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,835
    First world problem.
  • wolfgang said:

    I fancied a hot drink, didn’t want chocolate, so order a black americano

    transaction typed in, i pay for it, young lad goes off and puts the hot water in a designated cup.

    Black coffee gets handed over and young lad says …’the milk is over there…’

    me…’thanks, but I don’t need milk with my black coffee’


    every older generation over millennium has doubted the generations that will follow but, fck me, the planet is screwed when this lot takes over

    I would worry more about pretentious prats who order "americanos" at a football ground.

    Edit: I see Off_it beat me to it. Sorry!
    I have been in two cafes in the past week (and I mean cafes - old fashioned greasy spoon type cafes) one in Portsmouth run by an old bloke and his wife and the other the GMT opposite the River Ale House run by a  middle aged Turkish chap, and ordered a black coffee and a white coffee. In both I have been told they can do me two Americanos and give me some milk for one of them. 

    Like Offy said - the game's gone... 


    So the ‘old’ bloke or his wife, whom I assume was equally no spring chicken, and the ‘middle aged’ chap both understood the concept that white americano is the one that has milk and black americano is the one that doesn’t have milk.

    now, on to the next important bit, how tall were they ?

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  • Off_it said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Thanks guys, Interesting responses. I always used to work on the basis that I didn’t need to be exceptional all the time to make money because the bar in where I was competing was generally quite low but now I’m starting to think I should have aimed higher and been a billionaire by the time I retired…I could have bought Charlton with the money and saved us all from all the heartache of recent years 😉

    Not to mention all the money you’ve saved on milk over the years. 
    Ordinarily you would have thought so, but I’m old enough to be of a generation when there was free school milk, which government minister Margeret ‘Thatcher the milk snatcher’ stopped for the generations after us, and basically explains why all us old gits tend to be a lot taller than younger generations. Then you get to a turning point in life when, if you’re lucky, your tastes develop and you start to cut out the non-essentials like milk in coffee, so basically you are saving money you shouldn’t actually be spending in the first place. 
     

    Is that graph all relating to the same bloke - he loses 3 inches between the ages of 24 and 75?

    What if the poor sod hasn't got 3 inches to lose?!

  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,693

    I fancied a hot drink, didn’t want chocolate, so order a black americano

    transaction typed in, i pay for it, young lad goes off and puts the hot water in a designated cup.

    Black coffee gets handed over and young lad says …’the milk is over there…’

    me…’thanks, but I don’t need milk with my black coffee’


    every older generation over millennium has doubted the generations that will follow but, fck me, the planet is screwed when this lot takes over

    Sounds like a significant improvement to the current cun.. crop
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,325
    If being offered milk for a black coffee is your issue at Charlton then fuck me you must be deluded. 
  • I'm old enough to remember when you just ordered a "black coffee" or a "white coffee" none of this "americano" shit. 🙄
  • sam3110 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Thanks guys, Interesting responses. I always used to work on the basis that I didn’t need to be exceptional all the time to make money because the bar in where I was competing was generally quite low but now I’m starting to think I should have aimed higher and been a billionaire by the time I retired…I could have bought Charlton with the money and saved us all from all the heartache of recent years 😉

    Not to mention all the money you’ve saved on milk over the years. 
    Ordinarily you would have thought so, but I’m old enough to be of a generation when there was free school milk, which government minister Margeret ‘Thatcher the milk snatcher’ stopped for the generations after us, and basically explains why all us old gits tend to be a lot taller than younger generations. Then you get to a turning point in life when, if you’re lucky, your tastes develop and you start to cut out the non-essentials like milk in coffee, so basically you are saving money you shouldn’t actually be spending in the first place. 
     

    That’s the average for the UK. Your diet will likely be a lot better than a lot of other regions around the combined 4 nations because the south east and London in particular is a more wealthy and likely to be a healthier region than the rest of the UK. There are and will be exceptions to that but overall where the money is, ie London and the City, then that will be where diet and nutrition is more important and affordable. For my generation that nutrition included a bottle of milk every morning at school in their formative years. The average height for 60 year olds in that chart will basically be people that started to miss out on that, plus if they’ve failed to supplement their protein intake (which is likely to be the majority) then they will literally be shrinking.
    Chatting out of your Harris, as per.

    On average over the past century humans have got 4 inches taller, across the entire world's population.

    Some places like Japan this number is even higher as they have significantly changed diets and nutrition and health has significantly increased. 

    In the last couple of decades some countries have started to Plateau with the growth spurt (Germany, Netherlands, the Nordic countries) 

    No chance your generation were taller on average, literally all of the data suggests otherwise 
    As I mentioned in an earlier post, the data looks at the average across the country but where dietary, nutrition and healthcare plays a major contributing factor living in London and the southeast or similar more affluent areas worldwide will potentially show some differences I would expect.

    my generation also may well have had other advantages over following generations and that was our parents and the NHS.

    our parents had lived through the Second World War and rationing, the latter was designed to get and keep the nation fit and healthy and by all accounts did a comparatively good job at it so the building blocks for diet and nutrition were already in place when we came along. The other one I mentioned is the NHS. It was still in its infancy and able to deliver the care, attention and service we would all like but over time have seen it struggle to do so through the sheer numbers and demands placed upon it. Whether those factors made a difference that was later diminished or not I don’t actually know but it would start to explain why a lot of my generation growing up in London seemed to be similarly tall, and definitely taller than the generation that had been born before the War.

    The far east countries like Japan, South Korea and China as you mention have seen huge dietary change as their economies have evolved. The main one is access to meat, something that would not have been there for most of the population before. The upshot has been the impact of a western diet has brought about western sized heights.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,383
    wolfgang said:

    I fancied a hot drink, didn’t want chocolate, so order a black americano

    transaction typed in, i pay for it, young lad goes off and puts the hot water in a designated cup.

    Black coffee gets handed over and young lad says …’the milk is over there…’

    me…’thanks, but I don’t need milk with my black coffee’


    every older generation over millennium has doubted the generations that will follow but, fck me, the planet is screwed when this lot takes over

    I would worry more about pretentious prats who order "americanos" at a football ground.

    Edit: I see Off_it beat me to it. Sorry!
    I have been in two cafes in the past week (and I mean cafes - old fashioned greasy spoon type cafes) one in Portsmouth run by an old bloke and his wife and the other the GMT opposite the River Ale House run by a  middle aged Turkish chap, and ordered a black coffee and a white coffee. In both I have been told they can do me two Americanos and give me some milk for one of them. 

    Like Offy said - the game's gone... 


    So the ‘old’ bloke or his wife, whom I assume was equally no spring chicken, and the ‘middle aged’ chap both understood the concept that white americano is the one that has milk and black americano is the one that doesn’t have milk.

    now, on to the next important bit, how tall were they ?
    Actually no. An Americano is black. Look
    it up. An Americano with milk is a white coffee. Not so many years ago it was always cheaper than any kind of coffee with milk, for obvious reasons. As a black coffee drinker all her life, my missus is always annoyed that she’s now got to pay the same as us milky coffee drinkers…
  • This just seems a really odd hill to die on.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,192
    The following generations are always smarter than the proceeding generation. Look at how many young people are spending their Friday nights in a gym rather than a pub.
  • BrentfordAddick
    BrentfordAddick Posts: 1,483
    I do this with tea because you'll get someone behind the jump pours half a gallon into a cup of tea when I just want a splash.

    Hope that helps.
  • wolfgang said:

    I fancied a hot drink, didn’t want chocolate, so order a black americano

    transaction typed in, i pay for it, young lad goes off and puts the hot water in a designated cup.

    Black coffee gets handed over and young lad says …’the milk is over there…’

    me…’thanks, but I don’t need milk with my black coffee’


    every older generation over millennium has doubted the generations that will follow but, fck me, the planet is screwed when this lot takes over

    I would worry more about pretentious prats who order "americanos" at a football ground.

    Edit: I see Off_it beat me to it. Sorry!
    I have been in two cafes in the past week (and I mean cafes - old fashioned greasy spoon type cafes) one in Portsmouth run by an old bloke and his wife and the other the GMT opposite the River Ale House run by a  middle aged Turkish chap, and ordered a black coffee and a white coffee. In both I have been told they can do me two Americanos and give me some milk for one of them. 

    Like Offy said - the game's gone... 


    So the ‘old’ bloke or his wife, whom I assume was equally no spring chicken, and the ‘middle aged’ chap both understood the concept that white americano is the one that has milk and black americano is the one that doesn’t have milk.

    now, on to the next important bit, how tall were they ?
    Actually no. An Americano is black. Look
    it up. An Americano with milk is a white coffee. Not so many years ago it was always cheaper than any kind of coffee with milk, for obvious reasons. As a black coffee drinker all her life, my missus is always annoyed that she’s now got to pay the same as us milky coffee drinkers…
    I always dislike the idea of having to specify ‘black’ but if you don’t some places are just prone to automatically start adding milk before you can stop them.

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  • The following generations are always smarter than the proceeding generation. Look at how many young people are spending their Friday nights in a gym rather than a pub.
    That’s sad, not smart…
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,980

    I fancied a hot drink, didn’t want chocolate, so order a black americano

    transaction typed in, i pay for it, young lad goes off and puts the hot water in a designated cup.

    Black coffee gets handed over and young lad says …’the milk is over there…’

    me…’thanks, but I don’t need milk with my black coffee’


    every older generation over millennium has doubted the generations that will follow but, fck me, the planet is screwed when this lot takes over

    Your requirement, or lack thereof, for milk didn’t alter the fact of its location. Not everything is about you. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,693
    The following generations are always boringer than the proceeding generation. Look at how many young people are spending their Friday nights in a gym rather than a pub.

  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,980
    MrOneLung said:
    Thanks guys, Interesting responses. I always used to work on the basis that I didn’t need to be exceptional all the time to make money because the bar in where I was competing was generally quite low but now I’m starting to think I should have aimed higher and been a billionaire by the time I retired…I could have bought Charlton with the money and saved us all from all the heartache of recent years 😉

    Not to mention all the money you’ve saved on milk over the years. 
    Ordinarily you would have thought so, but I’m old enough to be of a generation when there was free school milk, which government minister Margeret ‘Thatcher the milk snatcher’ stopped for the generations after us, and basically explains why all us old gits tend to be a lot taller than younger generations. Then you get to a turning point in life when, if you’re lucky, your tastes develop and you start to cut out the non-essentials like milk in coffee, so basically you are saving money you shouldn’t actually be spending in the first place. 
     

    Don’t confuse him (her?, but I’m guessing him) with facts. 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,502
    Gribbo said:
    The following generations are always boringer than the proceeding generation. Look at how many young people are spending their Friday nights in a gym rather than a pub.

    More boringer?
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,980
    Ive worked as a barista, lots of people order black coffee, and tea, because they want to add the milk themselves to add the right amount for them, maybe he thought you wanted to do this so was then telling you where the milk was?
    Nah - I’m with @letthegoodtimesroll on this one.  I’m always asking to have more hot water in my black coffee so I actually get a full cup. 
    If I want the server to leave room for the milk, I ask for black with cold milk on the side. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,447
    Milk at school in the summer was vomit inducing, that fuckin creamy curdled warm filth fuck off .
    Never drunk milk since , I have it on cereal and don’t do hot drinks, water only for me , evians my tipple and the odd beer or ten when I have to be near people for too long to take the edge off it .
  • jose
    jose Posts: 902
    Tea is a significant drink.
    If somebody else puts too much milk in your tea because that’s the way they like it you can’t take some of it out. If somebody puts too little milk in your tea you can add more.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,678

  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,678
    edited January 2
    Here you go, basically all coffee types start as an espresso, then it depends on what you add. All I'll say is there's a fine line between a cappuccino and a latte!