Not much more to add, gutted to only come away with a point but also not really as we'd all have taken an away draw before kickoff if offered, had a few chances to win it at the end with Knibbs' effort the obvious.
First half we were the much stronger side but for parts of the second Derby had their moments, saying that, they never really threatened outside of the Kaminski save and goal in that ..Ramsay/ Bell losing their man let's them score.
Our goal - was all said in the match thread, proper quality build up and finish from Bree.
Small moments ( or big depending in how you want to look at it) in the game are the difference between winning/ drawing, maybe could have kelman out there for longer as putting in a decent shift and Carey because, it's Carey.
We really missed Edwards as an attacking outlet on the left and Bell as the left-centre back.
Gillesphey did OK but he doesn't have Bell's pace in that channel and Bell, while good on the ball, is not in the same class as the young Scotsman in the other half of the pitch.
Back in the good old bad old days of League One we'd often plod through a game without creating a chance. Here we are in the Championship, under the hammer and creating three chances in the last five minutes.
It is universally agreed it would have been a bit tough on Derby had we scored one of them, but really, are we to be that magnanimous? Stick one of them away and its points on the board for us and we can leave Derby County to cry into their beer. It's dog eat dog out there.
I get that Bree looked gassed but the Ramsay/Burke combo, while clearly both excellent players, really wasn’t doing it for me on the right.
I think the RCB job belongs to Ramsay/Burke and the RWB job belongs to Bree/Apter. I might be saying something stupid, especially away from home with Apter, but I don’t think Ramsay slots in as well as Bell does on the other side covering Edwards for the next few weeks.
Could be a shit take but just how I see it.
Don't think it helps that we seem to have prime Dani Alves playing. We are going to look weaker down that side whoever comes in at the moment if he comes off
Somewhat ironically it feels a bit like Derby did to us what we've generally been doing to others - bringing on a bit of physical power in the second half to batter tired legs and grab a late goal.
Has to be said that there were probably some tired legs on our part and I wonder if Jones will have to consider a bit of rotation for the next game.
I think a bit of over analysis is going on in terms of individual performances. We did what we do and scored then we know we can keep teams out so we defended. That and a combination of Derby needing to go for it and having some big, physical and decent players and we get a draw which is totally acceptable. We move on to Preston.
That im disappointed at conceding 2 points and dropping from 3rd in championship during the second to 8th at full time is testament to how well we've started this campaign.
Such a strong foundation to build on and is testament to Jones, arguably our best manager since Curbishley.
Kaminski is a superb kicker and sweeper keeper and great shop stopper. Henderson and coach need to be drilling him daily on aerial commandment of his box to build his confidence in collecting crosses and corners. In these days of getting a free kick for breathing near a keeper it's in the keeper's favour to attempt to come and collect each aerial ball as if you get challenged chances are ref will blow for a foul.
Our weak link was our forward line last night and whilst decent individually Campbell and Kelman hindered us as frequently when a 50 50 punt went to them it was turned over by Derby's defence and we're back under pressure.
I think Leaburn with one of them is the way forward as he offers significant physical presence and skill. That challenge he put in last night should put to bed any misconceptions of laziness or disinterest that I’ve previously heard touted on occasion.
A quality striker is top priority for January and beyond as 34 year old Godden coming back from surgery is not the long term solution.
I would also start Tanto earlier as he gets involved. Can understand the desire to get Kelman as expensive signing on the score sheet but Leaburn and Tanto have offered more in their 'game changer' roles than Kelman so far.
Carey coming off seemed to kill a bit of our momentum and whilst Knibbs I think did well and is a very good player I think Carey is our most important engine and his absence didn't help us. Easy to assess in retrospect though and there's a reason Nathan Jones is our manager having got us promoted and more than competitive on a relatively average budget for this league and im on a train to go and work in a office.
Great effort and industry from all the players and a sublime finish from Bree after a Premier league quality set up from Doherty.
Well done "struggling" Charlton, as thw bookies favourites for relegation Im delighted to see where we are in the table and how we're playing and picking up points in tough games.
Stay up this season, beat Millwall January, keep the squad and Nathan Jones and back him in the summer and this season will be deemed a great success in my book.
A point away is a good result and a fair result on the run of play but I still felt slightly disappointed.
Says more about my increased expectations than anything else as it was a decent performance to nullify them and take the lead.
The skipper was brilliant yet again. Not a passenger and not the weakest link.
I thought the subs were too early and losing Bree in particular weakened us but maybe it was a fitness issue.
12 points from 8 games is 1.5 per game which would equate to 69 over the season. Not quite enough for the play-offs but well clear of relegation.
Only one championship game last night didn't end in a draw showing how tight this league is and will be though so turning games like last night into wins will be crucial.
A point away is a good result and a fair result on the run of play but I still felt slightly disappointed.
Says more about my increased expectations than anything else as it was a decent performance to nullify them and take the lead.
The skipper was brilliant yet again. Not a passenger and not the weakest link.
I thought the subs were too early and losing Bree in particular weakened us but maybe it was a fitness issue.
12 points from 8 games is 1.5 per game which would equate to 69 over the season. Not quite enough for the play-offs but well clear of relegation.
Only one championship game last night didn't end in a draw showing how tight this league is and will be though so turning games like last night into wins will be crucial.
On to another tough test in Preston.
We need to just see how it pans out but with so many draws, if that continues the play off totals might be on the low side this season.
In the 20 fixtures over the weekend and last night, 13 have been draws and only 4 home wins. Going to be a season of small margins and picking up points, particularly away from home, is going to be key.
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First half we were the much stronger side but for parts of the second Derby had their moments, saying that, they never really threatened outside of the Kaminski save and goal in that ..Ramsay/ Bell losing their man let's them score.
Our goal - was all said in the match thread, proper quality build up and finish from Bree.
Small moments ( or big depending in how you want to look at it) in the game are the difference between winning/ drawing, maybe could have kelman out there for longer as putting in a decent shift and Carey because, it's Carey.
Can't be too disappointed really.
Fair result.
Gillesphey did OK but he doesn't have Bell's pace in that channel and Bell, while good on the ball, is not in the same class as the young Scotsman in the other half of the pitch.
It is universally agreed it would have been a bit tough on Derby had we scored one of them, but really, are we to be that magnanimous? Stick one of them away and its points on the board for us and we can leave Derby County to cry into their beer. It's dog eat dog out there.
Has to be said that there were probably some tired legs on our part and I wonder if Jones will have to consider a bit of rotation for the next game.
Such a strong foundation to build on and is testament to Jones, arguably our best manager since Curbishley.
Kaminski is a superb kicker and sweeper keeper and great shop stopper. Henderson and coach need to be drilling him daily on aerial commandment of his box to build his confidence in collecting crosses and corners. In these days of getting a free kick for breathing near a keeper it's in the keeper's favour to attempt to come and collect each aerial ball as if you get challenged chances are ref will blow for a foul.
Our weak link was our forward line last night and whilst decent individually Campbell and Kelman hindered us as frequently when a 50 50 punt went to them it was turned over by Derby's defence and we're back under pressure.
I think Leaburn with one of them is the way forward as he offers significant physical presence and skill. That challenge he put in last night should put to bed any misconceptions of laziness or disinterest that I’ve previously heard touted on occasion.
A quality striker is top priority for January and beyond as 34 year old Godden coming back from surgery is not the long term solution.
I would also start Tanto earlier as he gets involved. Can understand the desire to get Kelman as expensive signing on the score sheet but Leaburn and Tanto have offered more in their 'game changer' roles than Kelman so far.
Carey coming off seemed to kill a bit of our momentum and whilst Knibbs I think did well and is a very good player I think Carey is our most important engine and his absence didn't help us. Easy to assess in retrospect though and there's a reason Nathan Jones is our manager having got us promoted and more than competitive on a relatively average budget for this league and im on a train to go and work in a office.
Great effort and industry from all the players and a sublime finish from Bree after a Premier league quality set up from Doherty.
Well done "struggling" Charlton, as thw bookies favourites for relegation Im delighted to see where we are in the table and how we're playing and picking up points in tough games.
Stay up this season, beat Millwall January, keep the squad and Nathan Jones and back him in the summer and this season will be deemed a great success in my book.
Says more about my increased expectations than anything else as it was a decent performance to nullify them and take the lead.
The skipper was brilliant yet again. Not a passenger and not the weakest link.
I thought the subs were too early and losing Bree in particular weakened us but maybe it was a fitness issue.
12 points from 8 games is 1.5 per game which would equate to 69 over the season. Not quite enough for the play-offs but well clear of relegation.
Only one championship game last night didn't end in a draw showing how tight this league is and will be though so turning games like last night into wins will be crucial.
On to another tough test in Preston.