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Think 1M pounds on a keeper is always going to look like a waste when our keepers have nothing to do for 85 mins. Would actually like a game where Kaminski faces 5-10 shots on target to know if he’s actually any good. Although he could have done better for the goal at QPR and today they weren’t such glaring obvious errors that makes me certain Mannion or AMB would have managed those situations any better.1
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Wilf something I thinkCAFCTrev said:
He was so good, you couldn't even remember his name!Cafcmunich said:Bring back the bloke from last year please!3 -
It's a shame you don't have Internet access, or else you could look it up.CaptainRobbo said:
Wilf something I thinkCAFCTrev said:
He was so good, you couldn't even remember his name!Cafcmunich said:Bring back the bloke from last year please!2 -
Could he have done better? Maybe, the top keepers manage to palm that anywhere but the centre of the box but aside from that he was class today, commanded his box and gave them nothing. I think you blame the players in from of him/ Ramsey before you blame him for the goal.3
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How did he do well to save it? It was straight at him.SoundAsa£ said:
Kaminski flap FFS what on earth are you on about…..he did well enough to have saved it in the first place.Croydon said:
It's all awful. The gaping hole in defence for the pass, the flap by Kaminski and the lack of reaction to the rebound.Rothko said:
Yeah, no Charlton player reacts to the saveCroydon said:https://x.com/GreatestLimbs/status/1966943442342474218?t=nyQg2kwkL0uTktbtljOJ2A&s=19
The fucking state of this. It's dogshit
Where the ball ended up was very unfortunate from his standpoint, however there really should have been someone around to have got at least a touch on the ball.
I don't see why he couldn't have held it instead if pushing it back out.
I actually thought that he looked better aerially today, other than one that he punched that he should have caught and one corner, I think, across our 6 yard box, where he was rooted to his line.
Still not good enough though.1 -
Mannion was very good at claiming crosses whereas Kaminski seems to like to punch everything out. But can't blame him for the goal it was a good stop from close range5
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If he’d tried to hold it and dropped it for them to score then he’d be getting pelters of the same people saying he shouldn’t have tried to hold itsuperclive98 said:
How did he do well to save it? It was straight at him.SoundAsa£ said:
Kaminski flap FFS what on earth are you on about…..he did well enough to have saved it in the first place.Croydon said:
It's all awful. The gaping hole in defence for the pass, the flap by Kaminski and the lack of reaction to the rebound.Rothko said:
Yeah, no Charlton player reacts to the saveCroydon said:https://x.com/GreatestLimbs/status/1966943442342474218?t=nyQg2kwkL0uTktbtljOJ2A&s=19
The fucking state of this. It's dogshit
Where the ball ended up was very unfortunate from his standpoint, however there really should have been someone around to have got at least a touch on the ball.
I don't see why he couldn't have held it instead if pushing it back out.
I actually thought that he looked better aerially today, other than one that he punched that he should have caught and one corner, I think, across our 6 yard box, where he was rooted to his line.
Still not good enough though.
Don’t think he did anything wrong, they had an extra man on the pitch so any loose ball is more likely to end up with one of their players2 -
What 😂SoundAsa£ said:
Kaminski flap FFS what on earth are you on about…..he did well enough to have saved it in the first place.Croydon said:
It's all awful. The gaping hole in defence for the pass, the flap by Kaminski and the lack of reaction to the rebound.Rothko said:
Yeah, no Charlton player reacts to the saveCroydon said:https://x.com/GreatestLimbs/status/1966943442342474218?t=nyQg2kwkL0uTktbtljOJ2A&s=19
The fucking state of this. It's dogshit
Where the ball ended up was very unfortunate from his standpoint, however there really should have been someone around to have got at least a touch on the ball.
Was hardly a powerful shot and it was straight at him. Any keeper worth their salt parries that to the side.1 -
I'm sorry but any one thinking he can't do better here is out of their mind
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Best not to have a loose ball then!NabySarr said:
If he’d tried to hold it and dropped it for them to score then he’d be getting pelters of the same people saying he shouldn’t have tried to hold itsuperclive98 said:
How did he do well to save it? It was straight at him.SoundAsa£ said:
Kaminski flap FFS what on earth are you on about…..he did well enough to have saved it in the first place.Croydon said:
It's all awful. The gaping hole in defence for the pass, the flap by Kaminski and the lack of reaction to the rebound.Rothko said:
Yeah, no Charlton player reacts to the saveCroydon said:https://x.com/GreatestLimbs/status/1966943442342474218?t=nyQg2kwkL0uTktbtljOJ2A&s=19
The fucking state of this. It's dogshit
Where the ball ended up was very unfortunate from his standpoint, however there really should have been someone around to have got at least a touch on the ball.
I don't see why he couldn't have held it instead if pushing it back out.
I actually thought that he looked better aerially today, other than one that he punched that he should have caught and one corner, I think, across our 6 yard box, where he was rooted to his line.
Still not good enough though.
Don’t think he did anything wrong, they had an extra man on the pitch so any loose ball is more likely to end up with one of their players0 -
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Not been impressed so far - his instincts are off - He can't seem to read the shots3 -
Should be catching that.Croydon said:
I'm sorry but any one thinking he can't do better here is out of their mind2 -
Well Mannion hasn’t been slagged off and all the others we’ve had since probably Phillips have been god awful. Too early to brand Kaminski but he hasn’t had a brilliant start. AMB, Isted , big Craig, big JoJo all dire .SoundAsa£ said:The inexplicable Charlton Life tradition of slagging off our goal keepers is still alive and well……unfortunately.🫤
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I didn’t say he did well to save it (as in outstanding)…..I said he did “well enough” as it was pretty much a straight forward stop, not forgetting it was hit with some power.SoundAsa£ said:
Kaminski flap FFS what on earth are you on about…..he did well enough to have saved it in the first place.Croydon said:
It's all awful. The gaping hole in defence for the pass, the flap by Kaminski and the lack of reaction to the rebound.Rothko said:
Yeah, no Charlton player reacts to the saveCroydon said:https://x.com/GreatestLimbs/status/1966943442342474218?t=nyQg2kwkL0uTktbtljOJ2A&s=19
The fucking state of this. It's dogshit
Where the ball ended up was very unfortunate from his standpoint, however there really should have been someone around to have got at least a touch on the ball.0 -
My take is, the first shot is straight at him and maybe he could've done better with it. And the follow up shot isn't a million miles from him either. But it's not exactly a clanger.
Just for once it would be nice to be sitting here saying that our keeper pulled off a worldie save to effectively win us the match and maybe we were a bit lucky. But we don't seem to do lucky against that lot.2 -
Dean Kiely between 99 and 04 used to win us games by making superb saves . We paid an absolute fortune for him, granted . I would say that since then, of keepers we owned , Henderson and Hamer had their moments . Pope evidently had talent but we didn’t see a lot of it . Elliot, Phillips and Randolph were fine. I do wonder if too much time is spent on distribution these in academies - basic shot stopping seems less important .Off_it said:My take is, the first shot is straight at him and maybe he could've done better with it. And the follow up shot isn't a million miles from him either. But it's not exactly a clanger.
Just for once it would be nice to be sitting here saying that our keeper pulled off a worldie save to effectively win us the match and maybe we were a bit lucky. But we don't seem to do lucky against that lot.
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You said he did well enough to have saved it in the first place, implying that it wasn't easy to have saved it in the first place.SoundAsa£ said:
I didn’t say he did well to save it (as in outstanding)…..I said he did “well enough” as it was pretty much a straight forward stop, not forgetting it was hit with some power.SoundAsa£ said:
Kaminski flap FFS what on earth are you on about…..he did well enough to have saved it in the first place.Croydon said:
It's all awful. The gaping hole in defence for the pass, the flap by Kaminski and the lack of reaction to the rebound.Rothko said:
Yeah, no Charlton player reacts to the saveCroydon said:https://x.com/GreatestLimbs/status/1966943442342474218?t=nyQg2kwkL0uTktbtljOJ2A&s=19
The fucking state of this. It's dogshit
Where the ball ended up was very unfortunate from his standpoint, however there really should have been someone around to have got at least a touch on the ball.
As I and others have pointed out, the shot was straight at him and no it really wasn't hit with some power.0 -
It was a decent amount for us but hardly an absolute fortune.wmcf123 said:
Dean Kiely between 99 and 04 used to win us games by making superb saves . We paid an absolute fortune for him, granted . I would say that since then, of keepers we owned , Henderson and Hamer had their moments . Pope evidently had talent but we didn’t see a lot of it . Elliot, Phillips and Randolph were fine. I do wonder if too much time is spent on distribution these in academies - basic shot stopping seems less important .Off_it said:My take is, the first shot is straight at him and maybe he could've done better with it. And the follow up shot isn't a million miles from him either. But it's not exactly a clanger.
Just for once it would be nice to be sitting here saying that our keeper pulled off a worldie save to effectively win us the match and maybe we were a bit lucky. But we don't seem to do lucky against that lot.1 -
It was 1 million, a fair amount back in the day but not an "absolute fortune"superclive98 said:
It was a decent amount for us but hardly an absolute fortune.wmcf123 said:
Dean Kiely between 99 and 04 used to win us games by making superb saves . We paid an absolute fortune for him, granted . I would say that since then, of keepers we owned , Henderson and Hamer had their moments . Pope evidently had talent but we didn’t see a lot of it . Elliot, Phillips and Randolph were fine. I do wonder if too much time is spent on distribution these in academies - basic shot stopping seems less important .Off_it said:My take is, the first shot is straight at him and maybe he could've done better with it. And the follow up shot isn't a million miles from him either. But it's not exactly a clanger.
Just for once it would be nice to be sitting here saying that our keeper pulled off a worldie save to effectively win us the match and maybe we were a bit lucky. But we don't seem to do lucky against that lot.0 -
A million quid in 1999 was a lot of moneysuperclive98 said:
It was a decent amount for us but hardly an absolute fortune.wmcf123 said:
Dean Kiely between 99 and 04 used to win us games by making superb saves . We paid an absolute fortune for him, granted . I would say that since then, of keepers we owned , Henderson and Hamer had their moments . Pope evidently had talent but we didn’t see a lot of it . Elliot, Phillips and Randolph were fine. I do wonder if too much time is spent on distribution these in academies - basic shot stopping seems less important .Off_it said:My take is, the first shot is straight at him and maybe he could've done better with it. And the follow up shot isn't a million miles from him either. But it's not exactly a clanger.
Just for once it would be nice to be sitting here saying that our keeper pulled off a worldie save to effectively win us the match and maybe we were a bit lucky. But we don't seem to do lucky against that lot.0 -
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It's a lot of money now, just not in football terms.wmcf123 said:
A million quid in 1999 was a lot of moneysuperclive98 said:
It was a decent amount for us but hardly an absolute fortune.wmcf123 said:
Dean Kiely between 99 and 04 used to win us games by making superb saves . We paid an absolute fortune for him, granted . I would say that since then, of keepers we owned , Henderson and Hamer had their moments . Pope evidently had talent but we didn’t see a lot of it . Elliot, Phillips and Randolph were fine. I do wonder if too much time is spent on distribution these in academies - basic shot stopping seems less important .Off_it said:My take is, the first shot is straight at him and maybe he could've done better with it. And the follow up shot isn't a million miles from him either. But it's not exactly a clanger.
Just for once it would be nice to be sitting here saying that our keeper pulled off a worldie save to effectively win us the match and maybe we were a bit lucky. But we don't seem to do lucky against that lot.
I don't remember thinking "wow, we've just spent £1m on a goalkeeper" and getting excited, especially when we had just come out of the Premier League. It certainly didn't register in the same way as the spending of around £700k for Clive Mendonca in 1997.
If you remember in the summer of 1999 we received over £4m for Danny Mills.0 -
Don't rate him. Nowhere near the majority of crosses I would say in his arc to come and catch. That bizarre punch in the first half with no-one near him only sends a message out that he's vulnerable. Think he could have done better with some of the goals conceded thus far.
But the other two are not an improvement either.4 -
We’ve not spent a million regularly since our premier league days - more this summer than we have for some time . A championship club spending a million on a goalkeeper in 1999 was enormous and it was exactly what we needed to do after years of quite poor goalkeepers .superclive98 said:
It's a lot of money now, just not in football terms.wmcf123 said:
A million quid in 1999 was a lot of moneysuperclive98 said:
It was a decent amount for us but hardly an absolute fortune.wmcf123 said:
Dean Kiely between 99 and 04 used to win us games by making superb saves . We paid an absolute fortune for him, granted . I would say that since then, of keepers we owned , Henderson and Hamer had their moments . Pope evidently had talent but we didn’t see a lot of it . Elliot, Phillips and Randolph were fine. I do wonder if too much time is spent on distribution these in academies - basic shot stopping seems less important .Off_it said:My take is, the first shot is straight at him and maybe he could've done better with it. And the follow up shot isn't a million miles from him either. But it's not exactly a clanger.
Just for once it would be nice to be sitting here saying that our keeper pulled off a worldie save to effectively win us the match and maybe we were a bit lucky. But we don't seem to do lucky against that lot.
I don't remember thinking "wow, we've just spent £1m on a goalkeeper" and getting excited, especially when we had just come out of the Premier League. It certainly didn't register in the same way as the spending of around £700k for Clive Mendonca in 1997.
If you remember in the summer of 1999 we received over £4m for Danny Mills.
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Disagree……I was in no way implying it was a difficult save…..I said it was “pretty much a straight forward stop” and that he did “well enough” to have saved it.superclive98 said:
You said he did well enough to have saved it in the first place, implying that it wasn't easy to have saved it in the first place.SoundAsa£ said:
I didn’t say he did well to save it (as in outstanding)…..I said he did “well enough” as it was pretty much a straight forward stop, not forgetting it was hit with some power.SoundAsa£ said:
Kaminski flap FFS what on earth are you on about…..he did well enough to have saved it in the first place.Croydon said:
It's all awful. The gaping hole in defence for the pass, the flap by Kaminski and the lack of reaction to the rebound.Rothko said:
Yeah, no Charlton player reacts to the saveCroydon said:https://x.com/GreatestLimbs/status/1966943442342474218?t=nyQg2kwkL0uTktbtljOJ2A&s=19
The fucking state of this. It's dogshit
Where the ball ended up was very unfortunate from his standpoint, however there really should have been someone around to have got at least a touch on the ball.
As I and others have pointed out, the shot was straight at him and no it really wasn't hit with some power.
Not sure what you’re driving at.🤔0 -
our lack of goals from open play will cost us more than our keeper7
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Any one in the know about the current situation with Mannion?
Is he injured or has he fallen out with the manager?
A far better keeper than the useless Aussie and I believe he takes part in the pre match warm ups. All a bit concerning as although he doesn't look great, an injury to Kaminski and we're in trouble.1 -
I think that’s a really crucial point.Elthamaddick said:our lack of goals from open play will cost us more than our keeper
There wasn’t many games last season, the odd one here, and there where we battered teams with lots of goals, but the wins were mainly due to keeping clean sheets.
We are now not yet, at that level in this division.
If we scored 3 or 4 goals a game, letting the odd one in, it wouldn’t matter as much, but we’re not scoring 3 or 4 goals a game.
I think we haven’t scored more than 1 goal in a match, which is why we haven’t got as many points as we’d like.
This division is brutal, you get punished for mistakes, every point counts towards safety.
My concern is we are drawing too many games, and getting dragged close to the bottom end of the table, when we don’t win.
I think we need 6 more wins by Christmas, but we’ve got to be spot on with our out thinking and outplaying teams.
The coaching staff will know areas TK needs work on, and will need to cut out mistakes, if we are to improve.
You could make an argument saying we should have spent 5 million on a keeper, as it’s arguably the most important part of the team, but we’ve haven’t got the budget.
Players need our support, not castigating over every mistake they make.
I think we need to improve all over the pitch, and stay focused until the final whistle, this is going to be a huge learning curve this season, for the players, management, and fans.4 -
Neither I think, his baby was born in early September.bolloxbolder said:Any one in the know about the current situation with Mannion?
Is he injured or has he fallen out with the manager?
A far better keeper than the useless Aussie and I believe he takes part in the pre match warm ups. All a bit concerning as although he doesn't look great, an injury to Kaminski and we're in trouble.0 -
So why are we seeing amb on the bench? It beggars belief1
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Keeper is not the problem. Scoring goals is.4
