QPR [A] Tickets - Sold Out

fenaddick

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

Belv

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

Athletico Charlton

How do points work for a season ticket holder please..?

I had a feeling it was as follows and was for 2 years cumulative but judging by my total I must be way out as I would have 580 plus play off points if there were any but actually I have 530.

Season ticket 230
Away games 10
Cup games 5
Play off (semi/final). ?

Ed. I think it's only one season back, not two.  ie 24/25 season plus this one as it progresses.  In Which case I should have 520 plus the 3 play off matches so seems closer to my 530 actual.

clive

Athletico Charlton said:

How do points work for a season ticket holder please..?

I had a feeling it was as follows and was for 2 years cumulative but judging by my total I must be way out as I would have 580 plus play off points if there were any but actually I have 530.

Season ticket 230
Away games 10
Cup games 5
Play off (semi/final). ?

For the 2nd time this season
https://www.charltonafc.com/loyalty-points-explained

Athletico Charlton

clive said:

Athletico Charlton said:

How do points work for a season ticket holder please..?

I had a feeling it was as follows and was for 2 years cumulative but judging by my total I must be way out as I would have 580 plus play off points if there were any but actually I have 530.

Season ticket 230
Away games 10
Cup games 5
Play off (semi/final). ?

For the 2nd time this season
https://www.charltonafc.com/loyalty-points-explained

Thanks for posting and apologies for not reading every single post in a very long thread.  

fenaddick

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

Certainly true this season (as I had already acknowledged) but was trickier in L1 with smaller allocations, although of course some of those will also go to general sale. None of this is a reason to stop people getting loyalty points for actually going to a game though, it should be a simple fix

Airman Brown

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

Not really true, because people will get their tickets together in the restricted phase. They don’t wait for general sale - Bristol City being an example. I bought 16 tickets for various people using eight IDs, during the restricted phases. We wouldn’t have said, let’s just buy for the people eligible in any given phase, pay even more booking fees, and take pot luck on sitting together.

i am not saying the system is wrong, btw, just that it doesn’t quite work as you suggest.

Belv

Airman Brown said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

Not really true, because people will get their tickets together in the restricted phase. They don’t wait for general sale - Bristol City being an example. I bought 16 tickets for various people using eight IDs, during the restricted phases. We wouldn’t have said, let’s just buy for the people eligible in any given phase, pay even more booking fees, and take pot luck on sitting together.

i am not saying the system is wrong, btw, just that it doesn’t quite work as you suggest.

The group I go with are in various phases, some have Valley Gold, some don't but I can't think of many, if any occasions we've not had points allocated to ourselves. I'm fortunate to be in phase 1 so can comfortably wait a couple of phases when my mates are eligible or everyone just buys their own when eligible and stand together anyway, granted the new pick your own system may hinder that a little now. 

I'm having a seriously hard time believing people are struggling to build their points up when probably around 70% of away games will either reach general sale or be released straight to general sale. The hard truth is the majority don't really want to build their points up, they just want a ticket for the big games and London derbies. 

MartinCAFC

Bristol City loyalty points won’t be added until QPR tickets reach general sale, had an email from the club to confirm. Reason being the tickets were already going through the phases.

SouthWest_Addicks

Just my two cents, system works okay because the demand isn’t there for most of our away matches. Probably only 3 games when demand will be ridiculously high this year. 

However, current set up would not work if we got to the top flight/promotion chasing in championship (Whether realistic/unrealistic). Probably needs a full season to implement changes to give everyone adequate notice to start accurately allocating points. A ticket system designed for a league 1 club, might not the best for a top championship etc. 

fenaddick

MartinCAFC said:

Bristol City loyalty points won’t be added until QPR tickets reach general sale, had an email from the club to confirm. Reason being the tickets were already going through the phases.

How hard would it have been for them to add a line to the original release article stating this?

Airman Brown

Belv said:

Airman Brown said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

Not really true, because people will get their tickets together in the restricted phase. They don’t wait for general sale - Bristol City being an example. I bought 16 tickets for various people using eight IDs, during the restricted phases. We wouldn’t have said, let’s just buy for the people eligible in any given phase, pay even more booking fees, and take pot luck on sitting together.

i am not saying the system is wrong, btw, just that it doesn’t quite work as you suggest.

The group I go with are in various phases, some have Valley Gold, some don't but I can't think of many, if any occasions we've not had points allocated to ourselves. I'm fortunate to be in phase 1 so can comfortably wait a couple of phases when my mates are eligible or everyone just buys their own when eligible and stand together anyway, granted the new pick your own system may hinder that a little now. 

I'm having a seriously hard time believing people are struggling to build their points up when probably around 70% of away games will either reach general sale or be released straight to general sale. The hard truth is the majority don't really want to build their points up, they just want a ticket for the big games and London derbies. 

Can only speak to my own experience, which is different from yours. Most if not all of the people I bought Bristol City for are likely to do at least half the aways this season.

Covered End

guinnessaddick said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Feck sake. Had 580 points end of last season, just looked and I am down to 530. How does that work? Phase 8 for me.

50 pts from the season before last, you lost them at the start of the season.

Why did we all lose 50 points (not that it matters)?

Friend Or Defoe

Airman Brown said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

Airman Brown said:

Bedsaddick said:

Weegie Addick said:

Our away ticket prices are based on Covered End Lower, not Upper. 

That’s a stupid decision. That wouldn’t happen at any other ground. We’d be charged the premium 

We used to charge a premium matchday price in the lower Covered End, combined with a cheap season ticket. There’s no reason why that area has to be the cheapest on matchday and if you have enough season tickets there it doesn’t matter what the matchday price is as there. It is the case that when we used the upper tier pricing for away fans the EFL took an interest, so we wouldn’t get away with it.

i complained about something similar at Villa in the PL and they moved away fans to the side as a consequence.

They moved the entire away end due to one complaint from you ? 

As I recall we made a formal complaint to the PL as a club, which I instigated in the role I had at the time, and they then moved it, but it was 20 years ago!

They were certainly in breach of the rules, but I don’t remember the detail and we may not have been the only ones to point that out.

According to Villa it was moved because O'Neil wanted home fans behind both goals.

letthegoodtimesroll

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

We probably would have sold all 4k tickets for Bristol City if they hadn’t faffed about selling by blocks. Those seats at the front just went unsold and the various posts made it look like we were struggling to sell them, which wasn’t‘ actually case when all that were left were the ones that looked like they would have a restricted view according to the stadium plan. Had they just made them all available the numbers we had already sold by the beginning of the week before would most likely, as usually is the case, have prompted those waiverers that couldn’t make their minds up to buy their tickets.

Airman Brown

Friend Or Defoe said:

Airman Brown said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

Airman Brown said:

Bedsaddick said:

Weegie Addick said:

Our away ticket prices are based on Covered End Lower, not Upper. 

That’s a stupid decision. That wouldn’t happen at any other ground. We’d be charged the premium 

We used to charge a premium matchday price in the lower Covered End, combined with a cheap season ticket. There’s no reason why that area has to be the cheapest on matchday and if you have enough season tickets there it doesn’t matter what the matchday price is as there. It is the case that when we used the upper tier pricing for away fans the EFL took an interest, so we wouldn’t get away with it.

i complained about something similar at Villa in the PL and they moved away fans to the side as a consequence.

They moved the entire away end due to one complaint from you ? 

As I recall we made a formal complaint to the PL as a club, which I instigated in the role I had at the time, and they then moved it, but it was 20 years ago!

They were certainly in breach of the rules, but I don’t remember the detail and we may not have been the only ones to point that out.

According to Villa it was moved because O'Neil wanted home fans behind both goals.

And it conveniently meant they could continue to charge higher prices. Who knows at this point? I just remember we complained and they swapped it. 

Belv

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

We probably would have sold all 4k tickets for Bristol City if they hadn’t faffed about selling by blocks. Those seats at the front just went unsold and the various posts made it look like we were struggling to sell them, which wasn’t‘ actually case when all that were left were the ones that looked like they would have a restricted view according to the stadium plan. Had they just made them all available the numbers we had already sold by the beginning of the week before would most likely, as usually is the case, have prompted those waiverers that couldn’t make their minds up to buy their tickets.

That is hell of a take, I must say. 

Covered End

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

We probably would have sold all 4k tickets for Bristol City if they hadn’t faffed about selling by blocks. Those seats at the front just went unsold and the various posts made it look like we were struggling to sell them, which wasn’t‘ actually case when all that were left were the ones that looked like they would have a restricted view according to the stadium plan. Had they just made them all available the numbers we had already sold by the beginning of the week before would most likely, as usually is the case, have prompted those waiverers that couldn’t make their minds up to buy their tickets.

Another surely you cannot be serious post.
So peculiar.

clive

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

We probably would have sold all 4k tickets for Bristol City if they hadn’t faffed about selling by blocks. Those seats at the front just went unsold and the various posts made it look like we were struggling to sell them, which wasn’t‘ actually case when all that were left were the ones that looked like they would have a restricted view according to the stadium plan. Had they just made them all available the numbers we had already sold by the beginning of the week before would most likely, as usually is the case, have prompted those waiverers that couldn’t make their minds up to buy their tickets.

We didn't have 4,000 Charlton fans for the previous home game, where are these 1500 missing people?

cabbles

As an aside, I’ll be alright for Millwall away, still haven’t gotten out the away end when we played them back in December 2019.  See you all there 

Belv

clive said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

We probably would have sold all 4k tickets for Bristol City if they hadn’t faffed about selling by blocks. Those seats at the front just went unsold and the various posts made it look like we were struggling to sell them, which wasn’t‘ actually case when all that were left were the ones that looked like they would have a restricted view according to the stadium plan. Had they just made them all available the numbers we had already sold by the beginning of the week before would most likely, as usually is the case, have prompted those waiverers that couldn’t make their minds up to buy their tickets.

We didn't have 4,000 Charlton fans for the previous home game, where are these 1500 missing people?

Yeah, but if we had a 50k capacity stadium, we probably would have sold them all. 

stoneroses19

Not only on this thread, but I am finding it more and more difficult to work out if posters are genuine (with some incredible takes) or on a wind up these days. 

eaststandmike

stoneroses19 said:

Not only on this thread, but I am finding it more and more difficult to work out if posters are genuine (with some incredible takes) or on a wind up these days. 

Agreed, I thought after promotion, a blinding transfer window and a solid start to the season things would be relatively normal on here 

However people seem to be losing their minds.

guinnessaddick

fenaddick said:

It won't actually be much of an issue this season though, most away ends will be big enough that tickets will go to general sale. QPR & Millwall probably won't but the majority of others probably will

Boro fans were in the lower section of the away end at the rusty toolbox on Saturday.

letthegoodtimesroll

Covered End said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

We probably would have sold all 4k tickets for Bristol City if they hadn’t faffed about selling by blocks. Those seats at the front just went unsold and the various posts made it look like we were struggling to sell them, which wasn’t‘ actually case when all that were left were the ones that looked like they would have a restricted view according to the stadium plan. Had they just made them all available the numbers we had already sold by the beginning of the week before would most likely, as usually is the case, have prompted those waiverers that couldn’t make their minds up to buy their tickets.

Another surely you cannot be serious post.
So peculiar.

Why ? Quite often we reach a trigger point number of tickets sold and it simply encourages others to also commit. Most of the tickets for Bristol City did sell relatively quickly albeit you wouldn’t have thought so from the number of posts there were that bitched about how poor the numbers were; and the absence of a clearer picture from the comms team. Had the numbers of tickets sold been made known and that the rest of the stand was now available I suspect that would have prompted more sales. From that point, if it had then reached 3k quick enough then others would have piled in for the rest.

JohnnyH2

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Covered End said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

We probably would have sold all 4k tickets for Bristol City if they hadn’t faffed about selling by blocks. Those seats at the front just went unsold and the various posts made it look like we were struggling to sell them, which wasn’t‘ actually case when all that were left were the ones that looked like they would have a restricted view according to the stadium plan. Had they just made them all available the numbers we had already sold by the beginning of the week before would most likely, as usually is the case, have prompted those waiverers that couldn’t make their minds up to buy their tickets.

Another surely you cannot be serious post.
So peculiar.

Why ? Quite often we reach a trigger point number of tickets sold and it simply encourages others to also commit. Most of the tickets for Bristol City did sell relatively quickly albeit you wouldn’t have thought so from the number of posts there were that bitched about how poor the numbers were; and the absence of a clearer picture from the comms team. Had the numbers of tickets sold been made known and that the rest of the stand was now available I suspect that would have prompted more sales. From that point, if it had then reached 3k quick enough then others would have piled in for the rest.

There were lots of posts about how poor the numbers were, but from the same few users

killerandflash

Covered End said:

guinnessaddick said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Feck sake. Had 580 points end of last season, just looked and I am down to 530. How does that work? Phase 8 for me.

50 pts from the season before last, you lost them at the start of the season.

Why did we all lose 50 points (not that it matters)?

The points system has a maximum of 2 seasons, last season and the current one. Once a new season starts, then points from the one before last, i.e. 23/24 get wiped. Athletico presumably had 50 points from that season which he lost. 

I actually lost a lot of points from 23/24 (105), as for some reason I went to more away games than usual that season. It certainly wasn't because of the football on the pitch, ONE win in 12 games and watching us lose cup games at Newport, Crawley and Gillingham 

PeakieRocket

When you choose to collect tickets from The Valley, do you have to wait for anything to say they're ready for collection before you go there? Also, can someone else collect on your behalf, or do they ask for ID proof of some sort? Usually just get tickets sent to me, but couldn't do that for this game and never done this collection malarky before. 

MartinCAFC

PeakieRocket said:

When you choose to collect tickets from The Valley, do you have to wait for anything to say they're ready for collection before you go there? Also, can someone else collect on your behalf, or do they ask for ID proof of some sort? Usually just get tickets sent to me, but couldn't do that for this game and never done this collection malarky before. 

You can turn up as soon as you've bought them. I remember reading how one poster couldn't get a play off ticket at the ticket office but could buy online which he did after he was turned away and then headed back there straight away to collect. Think ID is needed yes but can't remember.

Croydon

Airman Brown said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

Belv said:

fenaddick said:

guinnessaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

Croydon said:

Chippycafc said:

Croydon said:

stoneroses19 said:

Belv said:

Chippycafc said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Will everyone that wants a seat get one...! 🤣

No...but if i manage to get in at phase 7 i am going to buy 2, and take someone who doesn't support Charlton so we can have a good day out...It’s my reward after all.

Do you seriously think that happens?

You’ve literally just made that up in your own head. 

Pretty much all they post in this thread. Complete make believe stuff about other fans because they have to wait until phase 7. 

Pretty much every single away match thread as well. It's not like it's hard to move up the phases 

it is if you cant get a ticket cos some berk brings along his mate.

You have plenty of opportunity to move up the phases so that you don't miss out on the 2 games a season that don't make general sale. It's not an impossible task like following England or some of the prem clubs, the vast majority of our away matches don't even require points to get a ticket.

One issue is that the more games are on restricted sale, the more difficult it is for people to qualify when they can already pick up the second ticket from family and friends. I am really not going to contact the club to allocate a ticket I've already bought to my daughter, say, when I can get her a ticket on my account. I don't think you can do that yourself online, so the people with the points continue to accumulate them (from the first ticket purchase each time) and the people who accompany them never accrue the necessary points, which aren't recorded, from the second ticket even though they go.

You could argue, of course, that this just means the "two each" model works better than some people assume.

You can allocate a ticket to someone online providing they meet the points at the time of buying.

But here lies the problem. Lets say someone kindly buys me a ticket when I don't have enough points to buy one myself. I have paid for a ticket, travelled to a game etc but cannot (easily) get the points. If this happens 5-10 times over a season I could easily lose out on being bumped up a phase and being eligible, I am then hoping my kind friend doesn't want to bring along someone else each time. You should still be able to assign the ticket regardless of if they meet the threshold, otherwise they cannot gain enough points themselves

If that happens 5-10 times a season, then there is still 130-180 points up for grabs for you to very easily accrue, plus any cup games. 

There is no problem with the current system and people really need to stop suggesting alternatives that benefit them for the handful of away games they want to go to. 

To be clear, I am not trying to benefit myself. I cannot go to QPR, I cannot go to lots of games and I have no problem with my loyalty points at all. 

I just think it’s mad that there are some people (and there will be some) who go to a decent chunk of away games but don’t see the benefit of their loyalty. I cannot see a valid reason that they shouldn’t be allocated their points easily

That's just simply not the case, if you go to a decent chunk of away games then you will have a healthy amount of points considering away tickets don't reach general sale maybe 3 times a season. 

I wasn't saying you specifically were trying to change the system but this conversation only ever comes up for local away games or those with a small allocation and it's complete nonsense to say it's difficult to build up points, I had a couple of years where I couldn't go as often, within 2 years of going regularly again, I was on 700+, as already mentioned this is not Man Utd or England we're talking about, we didn't even sell 2.5k for Bristol City for the first away game back in the championship after 5 years, we were about 150 short, that's 1,500 loyalty points left on the table and not taken up. 

Not really true, because people will get their tickets together in the restricted phase. They don’t wait for general sale - Bristol City being an example. I bought 16 tickets for various people using eight IDs, during the restricted phases. We wouldn’t have said, let’s just buy for the people eligible in any given phase, pay even more booking fees, and take pot luck on sitting together.

i am not saying the system is wrong, btw, just that it doesn’t quite work as you suggest.

Imo this is where the new 'pick your seat' system causes an issue. Otherwise your group could have their own points and just buy for themselves knowing Bristol City was always going to make the late phases/general sale