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CHARLTON SIGN NEW CEO - DANE MURPHY (p13. Oh no they don’t)

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235

  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,864
    No conspiracy theory needed. 
    CCharlton wanted him.
    He wanted to come. 
    Unfortunately he has been unable to sell his shares so the deal is off 
    I note your spelling of Charlton is the same "mistake" as the spelling of "Aaron" on Elvis's grave. He didn't die in 1977 and you are clearly a part of the Charlton CEO coverup.

    Don't listen to him sheeple. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,432
    Why would the Dane Murphy have any bearing on Knibbs joining or not in the first place?

    Harvey: "Wait, you're not hiring Dane Murphy... DANE MURPHY... Of all people after all... Squiff that, I'm staying at Reading
  • MintoHumbugs
    MintoHumbugs Posts: 753
    16 pages on someone who didn’t actually end up joining. Not a bad effort but miles away from giving Hayden Mullins a run for his money.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    edited July 31
    We definitely do not need a CEO. As Chairman, GC acts as the central point ensuring football and non-football related activities are working in harmony, and also the primary conduit to GFP ownership group. An issue there is that GC also has a day job of his own but would appear to be the ideal person.

    Structure with three board directors: 

    Chairman 

    Chief Operating Officer (Ed Warwick/ANO) with the following responsibility - football experience is not a prerequisite.
    - Finance (HoF is enough, an FD is not required)
    - C&B and Hospitality
    - Third Party Commercial Partnerships/Sponsorship
    - Marketing/Comms
    - Ticketing
    - HR
    - Stadium and Training Ground Facilities Operations incl H&S/Maintenance/Security
    - Admin/Secretarial

    Director of Football (Jim Rodwell/ANO) with the following responsibility in close cooperation with First Team Manager - football experience is a prerequisite.
    - First Team and Academy Operations
    - Player Performance Analysis - existing and potential new recruits
    - Medical and player welfare
    - Scouting
    - Player Acquisition 

     
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 587
    edited July 31
    Why would the Dane Murphy have any bearing on Knibbs joining or not in the first place?

    He was the last person to have the cheque book, and now he's gone we had to place a stop on it, Reading wouldn't accept luncheon vouchers or an IOU until the replacement chequebook arrived and so told us to go boil our heads.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,469
    Why would the Dane Murphy have any bearing on Knibbs joining or not in the first place?

    Harvey: "Wait, you're not hiring Dane Murphy... DANE MURPHY... Of all people after all... Squiff that, I'm staying at Reading
    Maybe that is what happened 😉
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,231
    bobmunro said:
    We definitely do not need a CEO. As Chairman, GC acts as the central point ensuring football and non-football related activities are working in harmony, and also the primary conduit to GFP ownership group. An issue there is that GC also has a day job of his own but would appear to be the ideal person.

    Structure with three board directors: 

    Chairman 

    Chief Operating Officer (Ed Warwick/ANO) with the following responsibility - football experience is not a prerequisite.
    - Finance (HoF is enough, an FD is not required)
    - C&B and Hospitality
    - Third Party Commercial Partnerships/Sponsorship
    - Marketing/Comms
    - Ticketing
    - HR
    - Stadium and Training Ground Facilities Operations incl H&S/Maintenance/Security
    - Admin/Secretarial

    Director of Football (Jim Rodwell/ANO) with the following responsibility in close cooperation with First Team Manager - football experience is a prerequisite.
    - First Team and Academy Operations
    - Player Performance Analysis - existing and potential new recruits
    - Medical and player welfare
    - Scouting
    - Player Acquisition 

     
    Got a lot of time for Gavin Carter but not only does he have another job, he is based on a different continent.

    Yes, technology means he can stay in touch but he is still very much a non-executive Chairman as well as a minority shareholder.

    Titles mean little and are often as much for external viewing or individual status (see the use of Vice-president in US companies) but I think we do need one, on the ground, leader whether we call them a CEO or something else.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,074
    bobmunro said:
    We definitely do not need a CEO. As Chairman, GC acts as the central point ensuring football and non-football related activities are working in harmony, and also the primary conduit to GFP ownership group. An issue there is that GC also has a day job of his own but would appear to be the ideal person.

    Structure with three board directors: 

    Chairman 

    Chief Operating Officer (Ed Warwick/ANO) with the following responsibility - football experience is not a prerequisite.
    - Finance (HoF is enough, an FD is not required)
    - C&B and Hospitality
    - Third Party Commercial Partnerships/Sponsorship
    - Marketing/Comms
    - Ticketing
    - HR
    - Stadium and Training Ground Facilities Operations incl H&S/Maintenance/Security
    - Admin/Secretarial

    Director of Football (Jim Rodwell/ANO) with the following responsibility in close cooperation with First Team Manager - football experience is a prerequisite.
    - First Team and Academy Operations
    - Player Performance Analysis - existing and potential new recruits
    - Medical and player welfare
    - Scouting
    - Player Acquisition 

     
    Fancy coming out of retirement?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,742
    bobmunro said:
    We definitely do not need a CEO. As Chairman, GC acts as the central point ensuring football and non-football related activities are working in harmony, and also the primary conduit to GFP ownership group. An issue there is that GC also has a day job of his own but would appear to be the ideal person.

    Structure with three board directors: 

    Chairman 

    Chief Operating Officer (Ed Warwick/ANO) with the following responsibility - football experience is not a prerequisite.
    - Finance (HoF is enough, an FD is not required)
    - C&B and Hospitality
    - Third Party Commercial Partnerships/Sponsorship
    - Marketing/Comms
    - Ticketing
    - HR
    - Stadium and Training Ground Facilities Operations incl H&S/Maintenance/Security
    - Admin/Secretarial

    Director of Football (Jim Rodwell/ANO) with the following responsibility in close cooperation with First Team Manager - football experience is a prerequisite.
    - First Team and Academy Operations
    - Player Performance Analysis - existing and potential new recruits
    - Medical and player welfare
    - Scouting
    - Player Acquisition 

     
    Got a lot of time for Gavin Carter but not only does he have another job, he is based on a different continent.

    Yes, technology means he can stay in touch but he is still very much a non-executive Chairman as well as a minority shareholder.

    Titles mean little and are often as much for external viewing or individual status (see the use of Vice-president in US companies) but I think we do need one, on the ground, leader whether we call them a CEO or something else.
    The club needs a leader who is also its public face, especially as the substantive owners don’t want that role. Gavin Carter isn’t going to be able to do it, as you say, and I don’t think Rodwell or Warrick fits the bill.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,231
    bobmunro said:
    We definitely do not need a CEO. As Chairman, GC acts as the central point ensuring football and non-football related activities are working in harmony, and also the primary conduit to GFP ownership group. An issue there is that GC also has a day job of his own but would appear to be the ideal person.

    Structure with three board directors: 

    Chairman 

    Chief Operating Officer (Ed Warwick/ANO) with the following responsibility - football experience is not a prerequisite.
    - Finance (HoF is enough, an FD is not required)
    - C&B and Hospitality
    - Third Party Commercial Partnerships/Sponsorship
    - Marketing/Comms
    - Ticketing
    - HR
    - Stadium and Training Ground Facilities Operations incl H&S/Maintenance/Security
    - Admin/Secretarial

    Director of Football (Jim Rodwell/ANO) with the following responsibility in close cooperation with First Team Manager - football experience is a prerequisite.
    - First Team and Academy Operations
    - Player Performance Analysis - existing and potential new recruits
    - Medical and player welfare
    - Scouting
    - Player Acquisition 

     
    Got a lot of time for Gavin Carter but not only does he have another job, he is based on a different continent.

    Yes, technology means he can stay in touch but he is still very much a non-executive Chairman as well as a minority shareholder.

    Titles mean little and are often as much for external viewing or individual status (see the use of Vice-president in US companies) but I think we do need one, on the ground, leader whether we call them a CEO or something else.
    The club needs a leader who is also its public face, especially as the substantive owners don’t want that role. Gavin Carter isn’t going to be able to do it, as you say, and I don’t think Rodwell or Warrick fits the bill.
    Indeed and Murphy seemed much more suited to that side of it.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    bobmunro said:
    We definitely do not need a CEO. As Chairman, GC acts as the central point ensuring football and non-football related activities are working in harmony, and also the primary conduit to GFP ownership group. An issue there is that GC also has a day job of his own but would appear to be the ideal person.

    Structure with three board directors: 

    Chairman 

    Chief Operating Officer (Ed Warwick/ANO) with the following responsibility - football experience is not a prerequisite.
    - Finance (HoF is enough, an FD is not required)
    - C&B and Hospitality
    - Third Party Commercial Partnerships/Sponsorship
    - Marketing/Comms
    - Ticketing
    - HR
    - Stadium and Training Ground Facilities Operations incl H&S/Maintenance/Security
    - Admin/Secretarial

    Director of Football (Jim Rodwell/ANO) with the following responsibility in close cooperation with First Team Manager - football experience is a prerequisite.
    - First Team and Academy Operations
    - Player Performance Analysis - existing and potential new recruits
    - Medical and player welfare
    - Scouting
    - Player Acquisition 

     
    Fancy coming out of retirement?

    There is more chance of hell freezing over.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,308
    Why would the Dane Murphy have any bearing on Knibbs joining or not in the first place?

    Harvey: "Wait, you're not hiring Dane Murphy... DANE MURPHY... Of all people after all... Squiff that, I'm staying at Reading
    is Murphy Danish?
  • ro_addick
    ro_addick Posts: 285
    bobmunro said:
    We definitely do not need a CEO. As Chairman, GC acts as the central point ensuring football and non-football related activities are working in harmony, and also the primary conduit to GFP ownership group. An issue there is that GC also has a day job of his own but would appear to be the ideal person.

    Structure with three board directors: 

    Chairman 

    Chief Operating Officer (Ed Warwick/ANO) with the following responsibility - football experience is not a prerequisite.
    - Finance (HoF is enough, an FD is not required)
    - C&B and Hospitality
    - Third Party Commercial Partnerships/Sponsorship
    - Marketing/Comms
    - Ticketing
    - HR
    - Stadium and Training Ground Facilities Operations incl H&S/Maintenance/Security
    - Admin/Secretarial

    Director of Football (Jim Rodwell/ANO) with the following responsibility in close cooperation with First Team Manager - football experience is a prerequisite.
    - First Team and Academy Operations
    - Player Performance Analysis - existing and potential new recruits
    - Medical and player welfare
    - Scouting
    - Player Acquisition 

     
    Got a lot of time for Gavin Carter but not only does he have another job, he is based on a different continent.

    Yes, technology means he can stay in touch but he is still very much a non-executive Chairman as well as a minority shareholder.

    Titles mean little and are often as much for external viewing or individual status (see the use of Vice-president in US companies) but I think we do need one, on the ground, leader whether we call them a CEO or something else.
    The club needs a leader who is also its public face, especially as the substantive owners don’t want that role. Gavin Carter isn’t going to be able to do it, as you say, and I don’t think Rodwell or Warrick fits the bill.
    Spot on, @AirmanBrown. An on the ground leader, directly in touch with day to day club develoments, must surely be an absolute necessity.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,048
    Vitesse have lost their appeal against being thrown out the Dutch league so I don't think that will have helped things.... 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    No conspiracy theory needed. 
    CCharlton wanted him.
    He wanted to come. 
    Unfortunately he has been unable to sell his shares so the deal is off 
    I note your spelling of Charlton is the same "mistake" as the spelling of "Aaron" on Elvis's grave. He didn't die in 1977 and you are clearly a part of the Charlton CEO coverup.

    Don't listen to him sheeple. 
    Bollox. 

    Rumbled at last.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,231
    The M******* fiasco has highlighted, to me at least, that we remain without a named CEO.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,742
    The M******* fiasco has highlighted, to me at least, that we remain without a named CEO.
    Big factor in why no one has felt they had to take responsibility.
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,168
    It does rather highlight than no one in charge has ever run a football club and is figuring it out on the job. From what we've seen it appears that communication with fans is lower on their priorities than marketing 
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,119
    edited September 20
    fenaddick said:
    It does rather highlight than no one in charge has ever run a football club and is figuring it out on the job. From what we've seen it appears that communication with fans is lower on their priorities than marketing 
    We have a named Head of Communications.  He is choosing for the club to stay silent on the matter and not take responsibility.  Says it all for the quality of the management team under the SMT.  
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,168
    edited September 20
    BalladMan said:
    fenaddick said:
    It does rather highlight than no one in charge has ever run a football club and is figuring it out on the job. From what we've seen it appears that communication with fans is lower on their priorities than marketing 
    We have a named Head of Communications.  He is choosing for the club to stay silent on the matter and not take responsibility.  Says it all for the quality of the management team under the SMT.  
    The comms have been poor but it's pretty obvious that the Head of Comms can't make the decision to apologise on behalf of the club. They could have made the decision to communicate the re-routing better, the statement could have acknowledged that but the Head of Comms doesn't choose whether or not the whole organisation apologises, that's above their head
  • The M******* fiasco has highlighted, to me at least, that we remain without a named CEO.
    Indeed, but as a "football " CEO, I'm not sure Murphy would entirely fit that role anyway.

    I never entirely understood Murphy's role. A massive amount of duplication with Rodwell, rather than someone to run the non football side.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,861
    Is Katrien available? 

    Say what you want about her period in charge, but she was never short of something to say. Most of it was bollocks, of course, but is saying something better than saying nothing at all?
  • We have lost a few key staff (Tracey, Dr Abbott) and seem unable to or lacking urgency to replace them and hire a CEO. Which is worrying 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    Off_it said:
    Is Katrien available? 

    Say what you want about her period in charge, but she was never short of something to say. Most of it was bollocks, of course, but is saying something better than saying nothing at all?

  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,156
    fenaddick said:
    BalladMan said:
    fenaddick said:
    It does rather highlight than no one in charge has ever run a football club and is figuring it out on the job. From what we've seen it appears that communication with fans is lower on their priorities than marketing 
    We have a named Head of Communications.  He is choosing for the club to stay silent on the matter and not take responsibility.  Says it all for the quality of the management team under the SMT.  
    The comms have been poor but it's pretty obvious that the Head of Comms can't make the decision to apologise on behalf of the club. They could have made the decision to communicate the re-routing better, the statement could have acknowledged that but the Head of Comms doesn't choose whether or not the whole organisation apologises, that's above their head
    Agreed, and good comms cannot disguise, still less improve, a bad product, decision or outcome.
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,119
    fenaddick said:
    BalladMan said:
    fenaddick said:
    It does rather highlight than no one in charge has ever run a football club and is figuring it out on the job. From what we've seen it appears that communication with fans is lower on their priorities than marketing 
    We have a named Head of Communications.  He is choosing for the club to stay silent on the matter and not take responsibility.  Says it all for the quality of the management team under the SMT.  
    The comms have been poor but it's pretty obvious that the Head of Comms can't make the decision to apologise on behalf of the club. They could have made the decision to communicate the re-routing better, the statement could have acknowledged that but the Head of Comms doesn't choose whether or not the whole organisation apologises, that's above their head
    I disagree. In the absence of a decision maker, the heads of comms should be pushing a strategy to manage the situation and start to repair the damage. Nothing about the current comms dept leads me to believe it has effective leadership, including and not limited to, the example you provided. 

    Airman’s point re: Wembley tickets is another example of a monumental comms fail.  
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,742
    edited September 20
    BalladMan said:
    fenaddick said:
    BalladMan said:
    fenaddick said:
    It does rather highlight than no one in charge has ever run a football club and is figuring it out on the job. From what we've seen it appears that communication with fans is lower on their priorities than marketing 
    We have a named Head of Communications.  He is choosing for the club to stay silent on the matter and not take responsibility.  Says it all for the quality of the management team under the SMT.  
    The comms have been poor but it's pretty obvious that the Head of Comms can't make the decision to apologise on behalf of the club. They could have made the decision to communicate the re-routing better, the statement could have acknowledged that but the Head of Comms doesn't choose whether or not the whole organisation apologises, that's above their head
    I disagree. In the absence of a decision maker, the heads of comms should be pushing a strategy to manage the situation and start to repair the damage. Nothing about the current comms dept leads me to believe it has effective leadership, including and not limited to, the example you provided. 

    Airman’s point re: Wembley tickets is another example of a monumental comms fail.  
    If the head of comms had an assertive personality he wouldn’t have survived multiple regimes, several of them mad. Olly had opinions and was removed by Sandgaard. 

    The problem is that the culture at board level is wrong. The comms failures are a product of that. A decent chief exec could sort that out.