Away Allocations in the Championship

Friend Or Defoe

If the majority of fans travelled by cars we'll end up with shitholes like this even further from town centres.

_uptheaddicks

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

ElfsborgAddick

MillwallFan said:

NelsonsFU said:

redbuttle said:

HastingsRed said:

Braziliance said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Braziliance said:

Should sell them all out. The demand was 50k at Wembley. 

14% of our Wembley demand to sell out Blackburn away. Easily done. 

I realise you are joking, but I have been there when we have taken 200.

Blimey, I'm not sure what the lowest turnout I've been a part of has been. 

Barnsley away we tend not to do too well. Port Vale last season seemed quite empty.

Just hoping the excitement of the championship encourages more people to go. 

When I was going regularly to away games....late 70's till we left the Valley, 2-300 was pretty much the norm when we played up north.

Went to Rochdale away in the 70s. I seem to remember that the gate was less than a thousand.

Mid 70s - less than a coach load down at the Dell in the game before they beat  Man Utd in the cup final. The “ Agro Daddy” tried to keep spirits up by telling us more would be coming on the train… they didn’t. About the same period we often met with Spurs at Euston and their numbers were no better than ours but Chelsea used to fill the whole concourse.

I think the trend of taking big numbers to away games, or at least being expected to take big numbers everywhere (and being called ‘tinpot’ if you don’t) is a relatively new one. 

Obviously you had certain clubs who took big numbers everywhere back in the day, the likes of Leeds, Man U, Chelsea. But they weren’t the norm. most clubs would only take big numbers away if it was a local game, or there was a lot riding on a certain game. (And bare in mind this was the days before we had play offs and a lot of these games were dead rubbers with a third of the season remaining.)

I mean we took 400 up to Leeds for a midweek game this season, a few weeks after playing there in the cup (and taking over 2000 there for that). In the past, for a club of our size, that would’ve been seen as a fairly decent turn out, taking in to consideration the circumstances. But we got pelters for it at the time 🤷🏻

I agree with your opening two paragraphs.  In the late 70's(when I started going) and throughout the 80's, away followings throughout the country were generally shocking.  This was probably due to the fact that at almost any away game you were fair game for a slap from the locals, I'd be surprised if I went to an away game and did not see some sort of grief.

Nowadays away support has possibly picked up due to being able to travel hassle free and enjoy the day.

ElfsborgAddick

Friend Or Defoe said:

If the majority of fans travelled by cars we'll end up with shitholes like this even further from town centres.

Where is this? America?

ElfsborgAddick

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

MillwallFan

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

Uboat said:

I love the logic that you can prevent antisocial behaviour by ensuring that everyone in the crowd is definitely a Millwall supporter. 

Ha. I think the main reason thought it was the club were covering themselves 

I think they do it because Millwall have a minority that will travel for certain games and cause trouble. Every club has this to different degrees, but Millwall definitely have a larger minority than most and a history and reputation to prove it. 

Yes but making it members only won’t stop those people from traveling. The club are covering themselves because if there is trouble they can say they’ve done all they can, and they can trace any members to their seat numbers. No one sits in their allocated seats of course but that’s not up to the away club. We can say we’ve done all we can. 

There’s hardly any trouble anymore though. Of course there’s a group who go looking for it with likeminded people away from the ground but I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble at an away game in the ground. Apart from the silly posturing that you get in almost every ground around the country at some point or another 

Chris_from_Sidcup

ElfsborgAddick said:

Friend Or Defoe said:

If the majority of fans travelled by cars we'll end up with shitholes like this even further from town centres.

Where is this? America?

Kansas City Chiefs (right) and Kansas City Royals

Chris_from_Sidcup

MillwallFan said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

Uboat said:

I love the logic that you can prevent antisocial behaviour by ensuring that everyone in the crowd is definitely a Millwall supporter. 

Ha. I think the main reason thought it was the club were covering themselves 

I think they do it because Millwall have a minority that will travel for certain games and cause trouble. Every club has this to different degrees, but Millwall definitely have a larger minority than most and a history and reputation to prove it. 

Yes but making it members only won’t stop those people from traveling. The club are covering themselves because if there is trouble they can say they’ve done all they can, and they can trace any members to their seat numbers. No one sits in their allocated seats of course but that’s not up to the away club. We can say we’ve done all we can. 

There’s hardly any trouble anymore though. Of course there’s a group who go looking for it with likeminded people away from the ground but I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble at an away game in the ground. Apart from the silly posturing that you get in almost every ground around the country at some point or another 

There was this lone nutter at Palace, god knows what he thought he was going to do by himself.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14450759/Moment-Millwall-fan-attempts-entire-Crystal-Palace-stand-heated-FA-Cup-clash-Selhurst-Park.html

TellyTubby

Friend Or Defoe said:

If the majority of fans travelled by cars we'll end up with shitholes like this even further from town centres.

Think of all the pot hole fillers that would be employed if we had that size car park.

_uptheaddicks

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

MillwallFan said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

Uboat said:

I love the logic that you can prevent antisocial behaviour by ensuring that everyone in the crowd is definitely a Millwall supporter. 

Ha. I think the main reason thought it was the club were covering themselves 

I think they do it because Millwall have a minority that will travel for certain games and cause trouble. Every club has this to different degrees, but Millwall definitely have a larger minority than most and a history and reputation to prove it. 

Yes but making it members only won’t stop those people from traveling. The club are covering themselves because if there is trouble they can say they’ve done all they can, and they can trace any members to their seat numbers. No one sits in their allocated seats of course but that’s not up to the away club. We can say we’ve done all we can. 

There’s hardly any trouble anymore though. Of course there’s a group who go looking for it with likeminded people away from the ground but I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble at an away game in the ground. Apart from the silly posturing that you get in almost every ground around the country at some point or another 

There was this lone nutter at Palace, god knows what he thought he was going to do by himself.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14450759/Moment-Millwall-fan-attempts-entire-Crystal-Palace-stand-heated-FA-Cup-clash-Selhurst-Park.html

He must have had some extra protein weetabix! Even with the sound off, I can still hear him shouting "come on then".

MillwallFan

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

MillwallFan said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

Uboat said:

I love the logic that you can prevent antisocial behaviour by ensuring that everyone in the crowd is definitely a Millwall supporter. 

Ha. I think the main reason thought it was the club were covering themselves 

I think they do it because Millwall have a minority that will travel for certain games and cause trouble. Every club has this to different degrees, but Millwall definitely have a larger minority than most and a history and reputation to prove it. 

Yes but making it members only won’t stop those people from traveling. The club are covering themselves because if there is trouble they can say they’ve done all they can, and they can trace any members to their seat numbers. No one sits in their allocated seats of course but that’s not up to the away club. We can say we’ve done all we can. 

There’s hardly any trouble anymore though. Of course there’s a group who go looking for it with likeminded people away from the ground but I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble at an away game in the ground. Apart from the silly posturing that you get in almost every ground around the country at some point or another 

There was this lone nutter at Palace, god knows what he thought he was going to do by himself.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14450759/Moment-Millwall-fan-attempts-entire-Crystal-Palace-stand-heated-FA-Cup-clash-Selhurst-Park.html

Oh yeah, forgot about that lol, I was there but was down on the concourse still when he did it so didn’t see a thing 😁

Thing is I can understand them doing the members only for local derbies and games v the likes of Leeds, but away to Preston on a Tuesday night? Ridiculous 

Friend Or Defoe

TellyTubby said:

Friend Or Defoe said:

If the majority of fans travelled by cars we'll end up with shitholes like this even further from town centres.

Think of all the pot hole fillers that would be employed if we had that size car park.

Probably the same number we currently have, zero!

MrOneLung

Friend Or Defoe said:

If the majority of fans travelled by cars we'll end up with shitholes like this even further from town centres.

yeah but this one was at home to Burton on a Tuesday

Siv_in_Norfolk

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

MillwallFan said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

Uboat said:

I love the logic that you can prevent antisocial behaviour by ensuring that everyone in the crowd is definitely a Millwall supporter. 

Ha. I think the main reason thought it was the club were covering themselves 

I think they do it because Millwall have a minority that will travel for certain games and cause trouble. Every club has this to different degrees, but Millwall definitely have a larger minority than most and a history and reputation to prove it. 

Yes but making it members only won’t stop those people from traveling. The club are covering themselves because if there is trouble they can say they’ve done all they can, and they can trace any members to their seat numbers. No one sits in their allocated seats of course but that’s not up to the away club. We can say we’ve done all we can. 

There’s hardly any trouble anymore though. Of course there’s a group who go looking for it with likeminded people away from the ground but I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble at an away game in the ground. Apart from the silly posturing that you get in almost every ground around the country at some point or another 

There was this lone nutter at Palace, god knows what he thought he was going to do by himself.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14450759/Moment-Millwall-fan-attempts-entire-Crystal-Palace-stand-heated-FA-Cup-clash-Selhurst-Park.html

From what I hear @SoundAsa£ was prone to a bit of this back in the day

ElfsborgAddick

Siv_in_Norfolk said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

MillwallFan said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

Uboat said:

I love the logic that you can prevent antisocial behaviour by ensuring that everyone in the crowd is definitely a Millwall supporter. 

Ha. I think the main reason thought it was the club were covering themselves 

I think they do it because Millwall have a minority that will travel for certain games and cause trouble. Every club has this to different degrees, but Millwall definitely have a larger minority than most and a history and reputation to prove it. 

Yes but making it members only won’t stop those people from traveling. The club are covering themselves because if there is trouble they can say they’ve done all they can, and they can trace any members to their seat numbers. No one sits in their allocated seats of course but that’s not up to the away club. We can say we’ve done all we can. 

There’s hardly any trouble anymore though. Of course there’s a group who go looking for it with likeminded people away from the ground but I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble at an away game in the ground. Apart from the silly posturing that you get in almost every ground around the country at some point or another 

There was this lone nutter at Palace, god knows what he thought he was going to do by himself.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14450759/Moment-Millwall-fan-attempts-entire-Crystal-Palace-stand-heated-FA-Cup-clash-Selhurst-Park.html

From what I hear @SoundAsa£ was prone to a bit of this back in the day

He's still a bit tasty now.

Uboat

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

I find people are a lot less brave when there’s no one keeping you apart. It’s only when there’s a fence or a line of riot police that all the ‘let me at them’ behaviour kicks in. 

Croydon

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

In league one they mostly let us mingle but for big matches the OB have have lined the entire road with bodies and horses and will not let you cross over. Creates a flash point at the top of the road when everyone then merges to cross over to the station. 

SoundAsa£

Uboat said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

I find people are a lot less brave when there’s no one keeping you apart. It’s only when there’s a fence or a line of riot police that all the ‘let me at them’ behaviour kicks in. 

Is that so.🙄

Braziliance

Uboat said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

I find people are a lot less brave when there’s no one keeping you apart. It’s only when there’s a fence or a line of riot police that all the ‘let me at them’ behaviour kicks in. 

A bit like social media

Uboat

SoundAsa£ said:

Uboat said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

I find people are a lot less brave when there’s no one keeping you apart. It’s only when there’s a fence or a line of riot police that all the ‘let me at them’ behaviour kicks in. 

Is that so.🙄

In the last 30 years, yes. 

ElfsborgAddick

Uboat said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

I find people are a lot less brave when there’s no one keeping you apart. It’s only when there’s a fence or a line of riot police that all the ‘let me at them’ behaviour kicks in. 

The reply I gave was in response to the question of the gentleman being able to get a train after the game.

ElfsborgAddick

Croydon said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

In league one they mostly let us mingle but for big matches the OB have have lined the entire road with bodies and horses and will not let you cross over. Creates a flash point at the top of the road when everyone then merges to cross over to the station. 

I agree with that, BUT I have always found that once you got to the top of Floyd Road to make your way to the station all was okay, just the amount of people wanting to use the station.

I stand by my post that the gentleman should be okay getting the train.

I have never seen a problem at the station in any way, have never seen a punch thrown.

Callumcafc

paulsturgess said:

Blackburn - 724

preston - 845
wrexham - 1150
stoke - 1425
derby - 1284
swansea - 1095
west brom - 1800
Birmingham - 2200
cov - 1750
bristol c - 2200
Saints - 2500
pompey - 2200
oxford - 1500
qpr - 2500
scum - 2500 
Ipswich - 2044
Watford - 2200
norwich - 1303
Leicester - 2100
hull - 880
boro - 695

Leeds 2560
Man Utd 3400

Uboat

ElfsborgAddick said:

Uboat said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

_uptheaddicks said:

On the topic of away allocations, what is the situation regarding the train station with home and away fans after games?
In L1 we hardly saw an away attendance, but this will be different playing the likes of Millwall, Birmingham (again), Leicester, Sheffield U and W, Swansea etc. 

Do the police hold the away fans in the South stand for a period? Am simply asking as an elderly family member is thinking of getting a season ticket, but is not in great physical condition, health wise and seem slightly concerned!

There is no segregating or holding back the away fans.  I have yet to see any issues with home and away fans together.  There should be no concerns other than crowd congestion.

I find people are a lot less brave when there’s no one keeping you apart. It’s only when there’s a fence or a line of riot police that all the ‘let me at them’ behaviour kicks in. 

The reply I gave was in response to the question of the gentleman being able to get a train after the game.

Me too.