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How many signings do we need this summer?
Gravesend_Addick
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Just wondering what people's thoughts are?
The defence is fine, so maybe just a bit of cover. Still think we need another creative midfielder
A back up striker to replace Chucks as I'm assuming he will leave
I'm thinking 4, maybe 5 squad signings & 1 or 2 starters
Thoughts?
The defence is fine, so maybe just a bit of cover. Still think we need another creative midfielder
A back up striker to replace Chucks as I'm assuming he will leave
I'm thinking 4, maybe 5 squad signings & 1 or 2 starters
Thoughts?
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I’d probably say at least 4 new starters as a minimum imo and then there’s plenty of work to do for cover in each position. Big summer ahead.Mannion (could we do better? Yes but not the priority for me)
Ramsay
Jones
New LCB (Macca has improved massively but the step up is big)
Edwards
Small (if he signs)
Coventry
New CM (Someone more comfortable on the ball than Doc)
New CAM (Someone younger with more quality than Berry)
Campbell
New CF (Godden will play his part but more quality needed)8 -
Only 1 or 2 starters?Gravesend_Addick said:Just wondering what people's thoughts are?
The defence is fine, so maybe just a bit of cover. Still think we need another creative midfielder
A back up striker to replace Chucks as I'm assuming he will leave
I'm thinking 4, maybe 5 squad signings & 1 or 2 starters
Thoughts?
Genuinely if we want to survive/compete we need a lot of signings. Both first team and squad.15 -
At a guess, I would say 4-5 starters and a few to bulk the squad out.
The championship is a TOUGH division next season. And with so many teams coming down into it with big prem parachute payments in recent years, it is a different kettle of fish to the last time we were in it.
Don't underestimate what a big step up this will be. I am just pleased for now to be in the league, and with a structure and ownership that seems well set up to give it our best shot.10 -
That's why I started the thread, to gage opinion.SELR_addicks said:
Only 1 or 2 starters?Gravesend_Addick said:Just wondering what people's thoughts are?
The defence is fine, so maybe just a bit of cover. Still think we need another creative midfielder
A back up striker to replace Chucks as I'm assuming he will leave
I'm thinking 4, maybe 5 squad signings & 1 or 2 starters
Thoughts?
Genuinely if we want to survive/compete we need a lot of signings. Both first team and squad.
It's interesting to me that people think the squad needs so much work0 -
Yeah I'm coming round to the fact that Mannion will be good enough in the Championship.
Agree sadly about Gillesphey, at the very least we need cover for him and I don't think McIntyre is good enough to do that - You never know, Tom might be signed up, and may just need a full pre-season, Jones himself has said it took time for Macca to adjust to what was expected of him, and we've seen the benefits.
Small is fine if he stays, but think we'll need cover if he goes, Watson as backup will be replaced by Zach Mitchell, with the latter stepping in at RCB if ever needed, and Ramsay being the one to go back to RWB in those situations.
Agree about a new CM and a new CAM (would love this to be Donley on loan) - I think we need two new Strikers, with Campbell and Godden on the bench, but wont be surprised if its the other way around.
So in answer to the question... At the very least
LCB (Cover) - CM - CAM - ST - ST
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I think we need a lot. I wouldn’t agree that the defence is “fine” for the Championship. We need a new keeper and competition (and possibly replacement) for Gillesphey. We also need replacements for A. Mitchell and T. Watson.
I reckon we need about 7 players for the first team alone (6 if we keep Small) and probably 15 total if you add in squad players.3 -
se9addick said:
15 signings for a squad that just got promoted, surely not.I think we need a lot. I wouldn’t agree that the defence is “fine” for the Championship. We need a new keeper and competition (and possibly replacement) for Gillesphey. We also need replacements for A. Mitchell and T. Watson.
I reckon we need about 7 players for the first team alone (6 if we keep Small) and probably 15 total if you add in squad players.
I think it'll be half that5 -
Questions like this make me think of Jay from the Inbetweeners - "try and get at least three".
Seriously though I think we'll see 4-6 starters and maybe 2/3 squad players who can genuinely fight for a starting spot.
Anyone expecting an almost entirely new starting will be disappointed. NJ will be building on what we have. He might be ruthless with some positions, but he won’t tear up this team and start again.
I think we’ll see a good number of u21s involved in preseason and decisions made in August on which of them are part of the first team, who goes on loan and who stays with the u21s. Zach Mitchell seems the obvious one to be part of the first team after his good loan spell in the SPL.2 -
Would love for us to sign Donley on loan from Tottenham!1
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The Championship is considerably better than last time we were there - big step up from league one. Going to need some very good additions across the squad to be competitive4
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Strangely the one I'm thinking we need an upgrade on the most is one of the players with a solid championship CV.
Doch.
Really think he's struggled with league one this year. Did enough but will need to be much better next season. Maybe he'll come alive at a higher level??2 -
I was saying what I think we need, but I don’t think we’ll get it. I’m excited for next season, but I think it’s going to be a massive struggle.Gravesend_Addick said:se9addick said:
15 signings for a squad that just got promoted, surely not.I think we need a lot. I wouldn’t agree that the defence is “fine” for the Championship. We need a new keeper and competition (and possibly replacement) for Gillesphey. We also need replacements for A. Mitchell and T. Watson.
I reckon we need about 7 players for the first team alone (6 if we keep Small) and probably 15 total if you add in squad players.
I think it'll be half that1 -
Would love for it to be 7/8 in total , 4 key starters and then some much needed depth. Even if NJ wants a slim squad we can't be going into the champ with the type of bench we had yesterday.0
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The jump is big and other than the defense I can't see anyone that can 'easily' make the jump up. Even the defense are going to be under a lot more pressure than League One.Gravesend_Addick said:
That's why I started the thread, to gage opinion.SELR_addicks said:
Only 1 or 2 starters?Gravesend_Addick said:Just wondering what people's thoughts are?
The defence is fine, so maybe just a bit of cover. Still think we need another creative midfielder
A back up striker to replace Chucks as I'm assuming he will leave
I'm thinking 4, maybe 5 squad signings & 1 or 2 starters
Thoughts?
Genuinely if we want to survive/compete we need a lot of signings. Both first team and squad.
It's interesting to me that people think the squad needs so much work2 -
I’d want to see an upgrade in midfield where we often look poor. Coventry will I think step up and Anderson will play a part off the bench as well as starting games but Docherty and Berry will not be strong enough as regular starters but should remain, so two in midfield. We’ll lose Aneke, Ahadme and Kanu and Mbick won’t cut it yet to be serious options week in week out. We’ll need two strikers of some quality and use Godden as a starter and off the bench. No idea about Leaburn. Hope he’s fit and pushes on. So two in up front. I think Thierry will move on and I suspect Jordan Gabriel will come in at RWB allowing Ramsay to move to right CB. I’d want to see completion and cover for Gillespie too. That’s one if not two as Edward’s needs cover and good competition. Like others I don’t think a GK is currently a priority but I’d personally say Thankyou to AMB and bring in a quality proven number one. Looking to me like we need at least upwards of seven if not more.2
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Defence fine although need a couple of back ups.
Midfield needs a playmaker & some wide players. Can't play into the Championship with TC and a makeshift right wideman.
Up front is where we need it most. Ahadme, Kanu & Mbick are obviously not Championship material. Aneke is out of contract & Hylton is too old. That leaves Godden & an injured Leaburn. So imo we need at least 2, if not 3 proper strikers.
So in my book we need at least at least 8 players....preferably 10. We wont do though as Nathan likes a tight ship, so I'm expecting 4 or 5 in.
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We have a lot of young players in our present squad,who are capable of playing at the higher level,Small,Ramsay,Campbell,Anderson can only get better if they put the work in,and dont forget a fit Leaburn.Defence seems ok ,will need some cover,but as a unit I think they will be fine.Main problem is midfield,plenty of honest graft but no real class play maker,this is a priority.We cant rely on Godden over 46 games,so strike force needs strengthening,Mbick,Kanu,will at this moment find the championship a bit much for them.Dont think Mannion can really be faulted so a new goalie
to me is not a priority.
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In Phil Chappell, we trust …3
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Minimum of 6 to the squad (expect up to 8).
At least 3-4 of those need to be first XI starters.
Ramsey, Jones, Coventry, Small (if he re-signs) are a solid core to build around.
Godden, Edwards, Gillesphey, Campbell, Mannion, Berry, Docherty, Anderson should be more than competitive too.
No overhaul required just some serious upgrades in key positions.
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I forgot Leaburn! Who I'd put in the competitive bracket. Jury's out on his career in general after so many significant injuries at such a young age.0 -
GK New/Mannion
RWB Small (depends on contract)/New
RCB Ramsay/Z.Mitchell
CCB Jones/A.Mitchell
LCB New/Gillesphey
LWB Edwards/New
CDM Coventry/Anderson
CM New/Docherty
CM New/Berry
ST New/Godden/Leaburn
ST TC/New
Arguably need 5 new starting XI signings + a further 3 for depth so 8 signings needed and then replace any starters who may be sold4 -
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Surprised at how comfortable many seem in having Mannion starting for us. I think he’s an alright League One ‘keeper and had a decent match yesterday but I don’t think he’s good enough to start in the Championship.
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The amount of people that believe TC is a Championship standard player blows my mind. He's had some great moments and I like the guy a lot but I don't recall him doing anything of serious note against the bigger teams and the tougher tests we've had this season. Feel he would be nullified quite easily, like we have seen in the playoffs. Truly hope he can prove me wrong though
Being realistic (not negative)...
I'd say we have 4 players max who are current Championship quality and I'm not worried about the step up: Jones, Ramsey, Small, Coventry
Another 2 in Berry, Godden who have Champ experience and ability but are up against a new battle in terms of age/90 minute fitness
Doc is a bit standalone in having played in the division, good age but maybe bombed out of it for not being good enough...think he might surprise a few and be capable
Edwards, Leaburn, Gillesphey, Campbell, Mannion make up the players you are hoping can kick on to the next level but there isn't a guarantee
Rest of the squad I'd probably say is L1 at best and I don't have faith in Kanu, Anderson, AMB, Mitchell, Watson stepping up to the required degree to be Championship players.
It's Charlton so we know a few kids will get thrown in and see what happens but if we assuming the likes of Dixon and Mbick make up this bucket then I'm not convinced it's adding quality to the squad
SO based on all that... 10 new signings to help formulate a solid 18 man squad. I suspect we get more like 5 marquee and some fluffers6 -
If it’s four or five then I’m very worried about getting relegated. The Championship is a different beast to League One.golfaddick said:Defence fine although need a couple of back ups.
Midfield needs a playmaker & some wide players. Can't play into the Championship with TC and a makeshift right wideman.
Up front is where we need it most. Ahadme, Kanu & Mbick are obviously not Championship material. Aneke is out of contract & Hylton is too old. That leaves Godden & an injured Leaburn. So imo we need at least 2, if not 3 proper strikers.
So in my book we need at least at least 8 players....preferably 10. We wont do though as Nathan likes a tight ship, so I'm expecting 4 or 5 in.2 -
It’s so refreshing that for the first time in ages it’s not another complete rebuild over the summer.We have Chuks, Hylton, Watson and Henry out of contract, none of which are starters so hopefully that will free up some funds.
Gilbert and McIntrye returning to their loan clubs. Again no major loss, although I think there’s a players in there with Gilbert.
Small will of course be a loss.So arguably one first choice on their way.1 -
Won the free kick that lead to the goal so wouldn’t quite say that’s trueMummysLittleSoldier said:The amount of people that believe TC is a Championship standard player blows my mind. He's had some great moments and I like the guy a lot but I don't recall him doing anything of serious note against the bigger teams and the tougher tests we've had this season. Feel he would be nullified quite easily, like we have seen in the playoffs. Truly hope he can prove me wrong though
Being realistic (not negative)...
I'd say we have 4 players max who are current Championship quality and I'm not worried about the step up: Jones, Ramsey, Small, Coventry
Another 2 in Berry, Godden who have Champ experience and ability but are up against a new battle in terms of age/90 minute fitness
Doc is a bit standalone in having played in the division, good age but maybe bombed out of it for not being good enough...think he might surprise a few and be capable
Edwards, Leaburn, Gillesphey, Campbell, Mannion make up the players you are hoping can kick on to the next level but there isn't a guarantee
Rest of the squad I'd probably say is L1 at best and I don't have faith in Kanu, Anderson, AMB, Mitchell, Watson stepping up to the required degree to be Championship players.
It's Charlton so we know a few kids will get thrown in and see what happens but if we assuming the likes of Dixon and Mbick make up this bucket then I'm not convinced it's adding quality to the squad
SO based on all that... 10 new signings to help formulate a solid 18 man squad. I suspect we get more like 5 marquee and some fluffers1 -
8-10 players needed imo.2
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Love us to get Issac olaofe and horsfall from Stockport.Kellior dunn from Barnsley
hopefully be an interesting summer!!!4 -
My shortlist so far ..
Malik Motherille, Posh .. midfield/striker .. Number one seed lol
John Swift, WBA (released) .. midfielder
Zak Jules, Rotherham .. central defender (injury problems last season though)
Jaydon Fevrier, Stockport .. winger
Lyndon Gooch, Stoke (released) .. r/side back/wing back (as with Jules)
Also, everyone's favourite defender Santos has been released by Bolton (not for me, too slow)
Hows about Danny Ings ?1 -
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With an eye on staying up next season.Ramsay, Jones, Edwards, Coventry will step up without question.
Doc and Anderson will step up - neither need replacing, yet.
Godden and Berry will step up but age may start catching up with them and long term replacements would be good.
TC and Small have work to do but they are both young and have potential to be star players, but won’t be immediately.
Mannion, Gillesphey will be handy squad players.
Give me 4-6 first teamers on top of the above and we’re in a good place to consolidate IMO.
If we’re going for top half then add a few more.
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