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Overkill

edited April 2010 in Match Day Travel
Not sure if this has been discussed before so apologies and sink if necessary.

Went in the Yates in Southampton yesterday and went to take a walk to the ground about 2:15ish.Tried to leave but the OB wouldnt let me and my two mates. Then about 30/40 of us got hearded down to the ground by the police. There were a few Charlton herberts within the group, but i tried to explain to the copper that i wasnt with this group of lads he basically pushed me back into the group. Complete and utter overkill by the police imo. Even filming the group on camera. Didnt get this before the game at places like millwall and Leeds!!
Anyone else get escorted to the ground or was it just the group i somehow managed to be part of?!
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  • Par for the course at most away games. You need to use your loaf a little more and not go walking to the obvious pubs as soon as you get off the train.

    Take a wander, find a decent little backstreet boozer and do what you like without the eyes of the law & their hand held cameras in your face.
  • I didnt even get a train!...drove down as we had a hotel. Just went in the yates as i was meeting mates so had to pick somewhere easy to find.

    If you saw the group aswell then u would understand the overkill. Id say 80% were aged 15-18....it was actually pretty embarrasing if anything. Im only 26 and i felt old!
  • the OB thrive off this and were standing their with smiles in their faces, and batons in hands.. saw few get pushed to side by police for being goaded by a saints fan, soon after being bundled and arrested. like to see what the same police would do with some real trouble. the walk back to train station was ridiculous, walking both sets of fans in one walk at speed of snails and then 'if you hurry up you can make the next train...'

    feckoff
  • I think because of what happend at Maze Hill matches between the two clubs have to be more heavily policed than usual??
  • Well everytime we go down there, trouble happens, so it was probs for the best.
  • Was there trouble yesterday?
  • [cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]Par for the course at most away games. You need to use your loaf a little more and not go walking to the obvious pubs as soon as you get off the train.

    Take a wander, find a decent little backstreet boozer and do what you like without the eyes of the law & their hand held cameras in your face.

    You cant just walk off and find a pub. I walked off from the station and a few mins later two ob on bieks were sent up the road to escorted me to the yates.Told them I was meeting someone in the spoons and was told I have to go to the yates.
  • One of the reasons I choose not to go to many away games these days. Not sure how I would react to a policeman stopping me from walking down the road without having comitted a crime in a free country.
  • [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]One of the reasons I choose not to go to many away games these days. Not sure how I would react to a policeman stopping me from walking down the road without having comitted a crime in a free country.

    Got told I would be given a section 27 which means that I would have to leave the area. When I tried leaving after the game I was told I couldnt, I said well give me a section 27 then and he responded that he would nick me for drunken disorderly. clap clap clap.
  • Drifting off topic so sorry AFKA but as the queens subjects with no bill of rights I am not sure we are quite as free as we think we are.
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  • [cite]Posted By: SE9[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]Par for the course at most away games. You need to use your loaf a little more and not go walking to the obvious pubs as soon as you get off the train.

    Take a wander, find a decent little backstreet boozer and do what you like without the eyes of the law & their hand held cameras in your face.

    You cant just walk off and find a pub. I walked off from the station and a few mins later two ob on bieks were sent up the road to escorted me to the yates.Told them I was meeting someone in the spoons and was told I have to go to the yates.



    Yeah same.

    Had no choice of pub. The whole city came to a stand still while we were marched Yates'.
  • [cite]Posted By: ShootersHillGuru[/cite]Drifting off topic so sorry AFKA but as the queens subjects with no bill of rights I am not sure we are quite as free as we think we are.

    I'm with you.

    My family fought (and died in some cases) against a fascist police state.

    We seem to be sleepwalking into one if we are not careful.
  • JT - Did you find the whole thing as embarrasing as i did?!....one kid was so pissed he couldnt stand up.
  • [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]JT - Did you find the whole thing as embarrasing as i did?!....one kid was so pissed he couldnt stand up.

    That wouldn't be the one that got himself nicked and threw up during the process would it? Wasn't there but endured his posse's attempts to get him out of custody by mobile phone - like the police are going to release him into the care of one of his equally drunk teenaged mates. Moved seats to get away from them, they weren't in the slightest bit interested in the game and a complete pain to be honest.
  • I didnt see them in the ground tbh mate. I know he was wearing a stripey jumper....i wont say his name on here as its a little unfair (i heard his mates calling him when we were being marched to the ground). Also, his mate was handcuffed sitting on the ground in the street after the game. Was an 'interesting group' of 16 year olds.....all being fairly lippy to the locals. Embarrasing cos the first sign of trouble and you know they would have pants it.
  • [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]JT - Did you find the whole thing as embarrasing as i did?!....one kid was so pissed he couldnt stand up.


    Must have been walking alongside you, jelly legs was in front of me. Was cringey having a bunch of lagered up 16 year olds giving it the biggun.
  • I had a black cap on. The police made it even worse by closing all lanes of traffic......so even more people could see us, point and laugh.
  • [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]I didnt see them in the ground tbh mate. I know he was wearing a stripey jumper....i wont say his name on here as its a little unfair (i heard his mates calling him when we were being marched to the ground). Also, his mate was handcuffed sitting on the ground in the street after the game. Was an 'interesting group' of 16 year olds.....all being fairly lippy to the locals. Embarrasing cos the first sign of trouble and you know they would have pants it.

    Sounds like them.
  • [cite]Posted By: ValleyGary[/cite]I had a black cap on. The police made it even worse by closing all lanes of traffic......so even more people could see us, point and laugh.


    Was fairly gone by the time we left yates' so you could have had a black cape on for all i knew, unfortunately!
  • lol...there was a few people smashed when we got to Yates about 1. Couple of blokes were having a fag inside....while speaking to the old bill!
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  • JTJT
    edited April 2010
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  • Does anyone know what happened to the 20 or so (pi$$ed) Charlton fans who were arrested and turfed off the train at Havant? Journey delayed by 40 minutes, missed connections and lift which meant a three mile walk home and missed last orders.
  • No problem with police at Yates and escort if you wanted to walk away they didnt seem to have a problem letting you go to betting shop etc and if you wanted to slip away you could guess the younger ones had too much too early older tried to keep eye on them . It was always going to be like that best bet next time is not to arrange to meet at obvious bar the escort will take you to as guy said earlier just find a nice boozer and arrange meet there...and avoid meeting at Spoons or yates.....roll on Exter
  • I dont think the chaps who got the 10.05 had the choice about where they drank in fairnes.

    Apparently a fio was at Waterloo clocked some of the likely characters getting on, low and behold there is a welcoming commitee waiting at SC.

    I remember last season we went to Winchester to have a quiet beer, still got found there and suffered the same treatment of being marched round all day!
  • [cite]Posted By: JT[/cite]Had no choice of pub. The whole city came to a stand still while we were marched Yates'.

    I was suprised they took us to a pub that sold us beer in glass glasses (if that makes sense !) if they really thought it was going to kick off. Especially as there were lots of Saints fans in there, seemed an odd choice.
  • Its well out of the way from where their chaps drink though, over towards the area of St Marys
  • edited April 2010
    So despite a few 16 year olds and their leader (Valley Gary) being shepherded to and from Yates', there was no aggro at all then?!
  • none.
    Yates when OB came in we went upstairs had another beer no prob.

    Got off one stop after Southampton Central went side street boozer. 30 mins later the CAFC FIOs turned up in civvies ? left almost straight away. We got into Waterloo about 10.30 PM.

    No probs.
  • VG was on his laptop the whole time he was in Yates', researching Football grounds with running tracks.
  • Almost got caught up in the mass bundle when one of our fans got arrested for getting lippy to a policeman. Police were a bit heavy handed, kept being told to hurry up to the station even though the train wernt til 6:13
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