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You are not wrong but the problem with our houses is the bricks and blocks heat up over the first few days of a heatwave and as fast as you try to change the air inside, the walls heat it up. A fan is a good option. It doesn't change the air but 'cools' you down a bit.cantersaddick said:
Fair enough you do know your stuff on the weather.Hex said:
Not entirely accurate. The biggest effect on maximum temperatures is the sea surface temperatures (SSTs) around our coasts hence yesterday not reaching 24C here in NW Kent. May's heatwave was even more impressive because generally the SSTs were below average. Even though they have recovered and are up to 5C above average in some places, a sea breeze off the sea can greatly affect temperatures. Hence the June maximum record not being broken .... yet. Mid to 3rd week of July is generally accepted as the 'sweet' spot for record high temperatures.cantersaddick said:The annoying thing about this heatwave is that it happens to fall right around the longest days of the year. If it was in late August when the days are shorter that little bit of extra time before the sun comes up and after it sets would make a real difference to airing the house out and getting temperature down before the day and before bed.
I was more meaning that practically trying to manage the house by airing it out when the sun's gone down or before it rises it would be nice to have less hours of sunshine even if only a little. I guess I was comparing managing a house in this temperature now vs late August with less hours of sunshine. Does that make sense or am I still barking up the wrong tree?3 -
cantersaddick said:
Not even close.O-Randy-Hunt said:What have I missed here? The usual mob hijacking another thread?
People discussing the way the heat has affected them, their daily lives and their houses and mentioning climate adaptation in the context of what needs to be done so our lives are less affected by more frequent heatwaves. Others then jump on it claiming it’s been "turned into the climate change thread" and when people respond they accuse them of derailing the thread.No, sorry, but you're very close.
What do you think is going to happen to this thread when people start posting links to fluff pieces from the Spector about Zach Polanski?
Do you think there's going to be a productive conversation between people with opposing views on climate change? Or do you think this thread will end up being shut down, just like AFKA's thread a couple of weeks ago, which was simply about him not liking the heat?
If this forum were good at facilitating conversations between people with strongly opposing views, then the HoC would still be open. But it isn't.
Which is why threads repeatedly feel like they're being "hijacked". Because most people, rightly or wrongly, don't want to get involved in this kind of discourse.
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Don't leave a bag of gummy sweets in your car. When you retrieve it you will find you have one giant gummy12
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Got an email saying we are allowed to wear "tailored shorts" into work.
I work for a consulting firm and feel like if I go in I'll be the only one doing it like when someone tells you all the lads are going on a flight to Ibiza dressed as fairies and you turn up and it's just you.8 -
FishCostaFortune said:cantersaddick said:
Not even close.O-Randy-Hunt said:What have I missed here? The usual mob hijacking another thread?
People discussing the way the heat has affected them, their daily lives and their houses and mentioning climate adaptation in the context of what needs to be done so our lives are less affected by more frequent heatwaves. Others then jump on it claiming it’s been "turned into the climate change thread" and when people respond they accuse them of derailing the thread.No, sorry, but you're very close.
What do you think is going to happen to this thread when people start posting links to fluff pieces from the Spector about Zach Polanski?
Do you think there's going to be a productive conversation between people with opposing views on climate change? Or do you think this thread will end up being shut down, just like AFKA's thread a couple of weeks ago, which was simply about him not liking the heat?
If this forum were good at facilitating conversations between people with strongly opposing views, then the HoC would still be open. But it isn't.
Which is why threads repeatedly feel like they're being "hijacked". Because most people, rightly or wrongly, don't want to get involved in this kind of discourse.
Some people treat every casual conversation as a moral crusade to "educate" the masses.
To them, it’s never a derailment if they’re busy spreading the gospel of truth. In my view it's also an ego trip - hunting down people who are less intelligent and going for them on obvious targets (like flat-earthers) just to feel intellectually superior.
It takes actual self-awareness, and sometimes realizing life is too short, to just read the room and resist shoehorning it in. I agree with the climate facts; it's just not always the time or place.I used to have friends like this. You quickly stop inviting them to the pub when their entire identity boils down to rehearsed, hairbrush in the mirror speeches about Trump, Musk, or Brexit, ready to go at any opportunity.
It’s a fascinating psychological phenomenon, but best observed from a safe distance.Anyway, it's a non-issue. Soon we’ll all have air con and can just leave our windows open one night a week to cool the planet down. Problem solved.11 -
I have read several scientific studies on the efficacy of electric fans in high temperatures. It is a very complex equation involving humidity, age and ability to sweat. In fact it has left me quite befuddled.
The New Scientist state this.
But how hot is too hot? The UK government warns fans may not prevent heat-related illnesses above 35°C (95°F), whereas the World Health Organization says the tipping point from cooling to heating occurs at 40°C (104°F). Some studies suggest even lower or higher values. The reality is that there is no simple answer, as several factors are involved.
I mean ... wtf do you make of that?
Full report here.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2531606-you-should-turn-off-fans-when-its-too-hot-but-how-hot-is-too-hot/
and here
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519624000305
In conclusion my intense research has led absolutely nowhere, perhaps @cantersaddick can interpret? He seems on the ball with all this stuff.
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And still people going on about climate change and politics2
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The BBC weather app is 2 degrees lower than the Met Office. Psychologically feels much better to read the BBC one.3
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You must have had the biggest smirk of all time on your face when you posted thisHuskaris said:FishCostaFortune said:cantersaddick said:
Not even close.O-Randy-Hunt said:What have I missed here? The usual mob hijacking another thread?
People discussing the way the heat has affected them, their daily lives and their houses and mentioning climate adaptation in the context of what needs to be done so our lives are less affected by more frequent heatwaves. Others then jump on it claiming it’s been "turned into the climate change thread" and when people respond they accuse them of derailing the thread.No, sorry, but you're very close.
What do you think is going to happen to this thread when people start posting links to fluff pieces from the Spector about Zach Polanski?
Do you think there's going to be a productive conversation between people with opposing views on climate change? Or do you think this thread will end up being shut down, just like AFKA's thread a couple of weeks ago, which was simply about him not liking the heat?
If this forum were good at facilitating conversations between people with strongly opposing views, then the HoC would still be open. But it isn't.
Which is why threads repeatedly feel like they're being "hijacked". Because most people, rightly or wrongly, don't want to get involved in this kind of discourse.
Some people treat every casual conversation as a moral crusade to "educate" the masses.
To them, it’s never a derailment if they’re busy spreading the gospel of truth. In my view it's also an ego trip - hunting down people who are less intelligent and going for them on obvious targets (like flat-earthers) just to feel intellectually superior.
It takes actual self-awareness, and sometimes realizing life is too short, to just read the room and resist shoehorning it in. I agree with the climate facts; it's just not always the time or place.I used to have friends like this. You quickly stop inviting them to the pub when their entire identity boils down to rehearsed, hairbrush in the mirror speeches about Trump, Musk, or Brexit, ready to go at any opportunity.
It’s a fascinating psychological phenomenon, but best observed from a safe distance.Anyway, it's a non-issue. Soon we’ll all have air con and can just leave our windows open one night a week to cool the planet down. Problem solved.3 -
Its interesting that the major economies all agreed to reduce carbon emissions & to get to "net zero" as fast as they could........until there was a war or two that put energy prices up, the masses complained and so the politicians rowed back on it all.MrOneLung said:And still people going on about climate change and politics
Unfortunately people are more concerned about their pay & bank balances than feeling a bit hot for a few weeks of the year.0 -
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It's too bloody hot atm !0 -
Water pressure low. As a South East Water customer fully expect to see hose pipe ban come into force this week. Have already been bombarded with ‘what not to do’ text and email this last fortnight.
Temp already 26c in my chicken run which is in the shade.
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Well exactly. But the idiotic piece from the spectator was nothing to do with the conversation which was all about how homes could be adapted to the heat or how to manage the heat (external window coverings, awnings, what times of day to open and close windows and blinds etc.) Which is perfectly valid for the thread. But they were the ones accused of hijacking the thread by bringing the climate into it.FishCostaFortune said:cantersaddick said:
Not even close.O-Randy-Hunt said:What have I missed here? The usual mob hijacking another thread?
People discussing the way the heat has affected them, their daily lives and their houses and mentioning climate adaptation in the context of what needs to be done so our lives are less affected by more frequent heatwaves. Others then jump on it claiming it’s been "turned into the climate change thread" and when people respond they accuse them of derailing the thread.No, sorry, but you're very close.
What do you think is going to happen to this thread when people start posting links to fluff pieces from the Spector about Zach Polanski?
Do you think there's going to be a productive conversation between people with opposing views on climate change? Or do you think this thread will end up being shut down, just like AFKA's thread a couple of weeks ago, which was simply about him not liking the heat?
If this forum were good at facilitating conversations between people with strongly opposing views, then the HoC would still be open. But it isn't.
Which is why threads repeatedly feel like they're being "hijacked". Because most people, rightly or wrongly, don't want to get involved in this kind of discourse.
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ASDA in Charlton was like that yesterday and they didn't have any pork casserole mix so i got another blast of hot air when i got home.Stig said:Had to go to the vets today. The air con in there was great and it felt really cool. Walked out of there and the heat hit me, it felt like that moment you step off the plane in a hot country.
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How are you getting on with trying to keep them cool? Most of ours are in the shade but we have the odd one or two who seek out the sun and just lay in it.Isawsummersplay said:Water pressure low. As a South East Water customer fully expect to see hose pipe ban come into force this week. Have already been bombarded with ‘what not to do’ text and email this last fortnight.
Temp already 26c in my chicken run which is in the shade.
Happy days!People recommend water melon but most of mine aren’t interested.0 -
I don't know if it would work for chickens, but something we've done successfully with the rabbits is to put large ceramic tiles in the freezer to cool down, then let them sit on them. Don't absolutely freeze them, and it's best to have a towel or blanket or similar between the tiles and the animal to make sure it's not too cold. We've also put a little water on them at times to help them cool off, but not at the same time; don't want frozen bunny lollies.Arsenetatters said:
How are you getting on with trying to keep them cool? Most of ours are in the shade but we have the odd one or two who seek out the sun and just lay in it.Isawsummersplay said:Water pressure low. As a South East Water customer fully expect to see hose pipe ban come into force this week. Have already been bombarded with ‘what not to do’ text and email this last fortnight.
Temp already 26c in my chicken run which is in the shade.
Happy days!People recommend water melon but most of mine aren’t interested.2 -
What if you fix one of those freezer block thingies to the front of the fan? Presumably that would have a cooling effect, at least in the short term.Raith_C_Chattonell said:I have read several scientific studies on the efficacy of electric fans in high temperatures. It is a very complex equation involving humidity, age and ability to sweat. In fact it has left me quite befuddled...2 -
They are good at keeping themselves cool. They like to dig down and have a dust bath, some stay in their nest box and others get under the house. We spray the run with a fine mist of water (I hope SE Water aren’t reading this) a couple of times each day when temperatures are extreme. But our biggest asset are the trees that provide cover for 90% of the run.
We also have a couple of decent size water troughs at each end of the run so they can self hydrate.
And we have found over the years that they stop laying eggs when it is really hot, as they do naturally when they age.
After keeping chickens for over 15 years, these are the last we will have - which is a bit of a shame, but they are also a real tie as they need letting out early in the morning and stay out until dusk, and as our children have all long left home, we are unable to go away even for the odd overnight stay.
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Can someone tell the yoof they can take their puffa jackets, hoodies and masks off.5
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They only listen to influencers. If tik tok tells them to do something then they'll do it..Baldybonce said:Can someone tell the yoof they can take their puffa jackets, hoodies and masks off.
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We used to keep rabbits, guinea pigs and quail as well as hybrid chickens and bantams, at the same time as having a German Shepherd who liked to keep guard over the animals - he got very protective of them all and did a great job in keeping the foxes at bay.
Apart from the dog, our favourite by a long way were the bantams, every one we had was a real character.
Mind you, one of our very first chickens would jump on my shoulder as soon as I got in the run, and stay there all the time I was in with them. And not once did she crap on my me! Threatening to have her for Sunday lunch probably did the trick.1 -
Careful now. I'm sure someone will be along in a minute and make that political too.Baldybonce said:Can someone tell the yoof they can take their puffa jackets, hoodies and masks off.
P.S I'm not gonna risk telling them.0 -
I'm enjoying the weather. Here in Yorkshire the weather is terrible for 49 weeks of the year.
I sat outside with the missus and had a BBQ and a beer on a Tuesday evening. Lovely stuff4 -
Volunteering, so cutting the grass in the community centre, as I’m away for a couple of weeks, it’s very hot.Thankfully the batteries in the lawnmower have overheated, so I’ve got a rest. Want to get it done before it gets really hot.0 -
This is totally rank today. My garden was still 27c at midnight last night and the heat has built up in the house to a level that makes sleep or work impossible. The whole argument of 'well other countries deal with it' is irrelevant because other countries have aircon more readily built in to day to day life. And are generally better prepared. If this is a new norm we need to change.4
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We threw in two frozen sweet corn cobs for ours to tackle yesterday. They loved them.Arsenetatters said:
How are you getting on with trying to keep them cool? Most of ours are in the shade but we have the odd one or two who seek out the sun and just lay in it.Isawsummersplay said:Water pressure low. As a South East Water customer fully expect to see hose pipe ban come into force this week. Have already been bombarded with ‘what not to do’ text and email this last fortnight.
Temp already 26c in my chicken run which is in the shade.
Happy days!People recommend water melon but most of mine aren’t interested.1 -
I’ve been misting the ground and making streams with the hose. We’ve got quite a few bantams- beautiful little things - except the cockerel, Bill, who despite being a bantam keeps picking a fight with Harry - our biggest cockerel - across the fence.Isawsummersplay said:We used to keep rabbits, guinea pigs and quail as well as hybrid chickens and bantams, at the same time as having a German Shepherd who liked to keep guard over the animals - he got very protective of them all and did a great job in keeping the foxes at bay.
Apart from the dog, our favourite by a long way were the bantams, every one we had was a real character.
Mind you, one of our very first chickens would jump on my shoulder as soon as I got in the run, and stay there all the time I was in with them. And not once did she crap on my me! Threatening to have her for Sunday lunch probably did the trick.I’ve got 4 chooks indoors keeping cool as they are ‘special needs’ chooks. It’s bloody hard work in this heat!1 -
Perhaps the Met Office use all sorts of instruments to measure things, while the BBC look out of the window.Arsenetatters said:The BBC weather app is 2 degrees lower than the Met Office. Psychologically feels much better to read the BBC one.2 -
“A climate change event in London on how to adapt to extreme heat has been cancelled today because of the very issue it aimed to address.
The event - Extreme Heat: Improving governance and strengthening action around the world - was due to take place at the London School of Economics (LSE) during London Climate Action Week.
"We regret that this event has been cancelled due to the red extreme heat warning issued by the UK Met Office," organisers said.”
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