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England v Ghana | World Cup Group L | 23 June 2026

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,431
    They should have had a clear pen - thought so at the time
    Was given offside.
    Only because the fouled player kicked the ball against Semenyo, no?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,661
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Learn more from this than anything else. He’s better than Southgate, just gotta roll with the punches.
    How do you quantify that?
    Well Spain drew against shit and lost their opener when they won it. Argentina lost against Saudi and won it. 

    The reaction doesn’t level the outcome. If anything Tuchel will learn more. When he won the CL with Chelsea I know they didn’t win convincing every single game.
    Spain and Argentina were much better sides than we are now though.
    Spain yes. Not having Argentina at all.
    Serial winners, we are not.
    Helps when you get 5 pens a tournament cos you got the selling point.

    Argentina in 2022 are the worst team to ever win a World Cup without doubt.

    Anyway, wake up call, should still win the group, then the serious shit starts.
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,856
    edited June 23
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  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 755
    Never seen Matt Godden miss the target from such a golden opportunity as Kane did. I mean that as a serious observation as well.
  • BlackfenLen
    BlackfenLen Posts: 177
    Ghana played for the pont they needed to qualify for the knockout rounds,  I don't blame them for that at all, they defended very well. I've no issue with how England played. I'd have loved us to win by 2 or 3 goals, but it wasn't to be. Tournament's aren't won in the second game, the way Tuchel has us set up to play we'll improve against better/proactive opposition once we hit the knockout rounds. That's when we'll see what we are all about. I'm happier watching us now than under Southgate.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,988
    Excellent defensive performance by Ghana, and they could have nicked something on the break. Nathan Jones would have played it exactly the same way.
    And why I hate modern football. There will be some out there creaming themselves on what a great defensive display Ghana put in. Awful performances by both sides.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,305
    It’s all very well saying that it was tough because Ghana played a low block, were defensively organised etc. A team with the potential to be Champions would have beaten them. Argentina would have got the win. France would have got the win. Spain would quite probably have got a 0-0 like us.

    This tournament will be won by either France or Argentina. Germany are the best shout as outsiders.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,219
    I was disappointed with the starting full backs, as when you have inverted wingers who like to cut inside, you want your full back to overlap and provide the width.

    Spence had the excuse of being on his wrong side, and having to be careful of Semenyo, but James should surely have got forward more. It's as if because he plays defensive midfield a lot now, that he's forgotten how to run down the wing and cross. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 2,187

    After an impressive 4-2 win over Croatia, can it be followed up against Ghana?

    Both teams on three points after one game played so the winner of tomorrow’s game would confirm their qualification for the round of 32.

    An England win paired with a Croatia win over Panama will confirm England top the group with a game to spare.


    No
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 2,187
    Drunk my cellar dry and they couldn't win.

    Sack the manager 😉

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,988
    Tactics all wrong. Play it like a cup-tie where you are losing with 5 mins to play. Long ball after long ball. Get the ball into the box asap and aim for knock downs, corners and defensive mistakes. None of this pass, pass, pass malarkey.

    But we have qualified already. 4 points will be enough, even if it's one of the 8 best 3rd place teams. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,988
    Drunk my cellar dry and they couldn't win.

    Sack the manager 😉
    Reminds me of that old joke about drinking Canada Dry.
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 1,014
    Konsa might be losing his starting spot after today.  He was really poor against Croatia and almost gifts Ghana a penalty today.  Once you get to final 16, the difference between winning and losing can be in the fine margins and he seems too mistake prone to risk it.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,460
    2000
    2002 0-0 v Nigeria
    2004
    2006
    2010 0-0 v Algeria
    2012
    2014 0-0 v Costa Rica
    2016 0-0 v Slovakia
    2018
    2021 0-0 v Scotland
    2022 0-0 v USA
    2024 0-0 v Slovenia
    2026 0-0 v Ghana

    That’s eight group stage goalless draws in 13 major tournament appearances since the turn of the century. Six in the last seven major tournaments since 2014.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,253
    Poor, poor performance after all the hype. Spent a lot of money to be here and felt empty at the result. Prefer watching Charlton come rain or shine with my mates tbh
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,946
    Poor, poor performance after all the hype. Spent a lot of money to be here and felt empty at the result. Prefer watching Charlton come rain or shine with my mates tbh
    Are you going to any other games? What's the atmosphere like out there? I will be allowed a 6 week sabbatical in a few years time and think I might do the world cup in Spain. 
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,732
    Eze was very poor, don’t get the hype with him. 

  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,816
    Seems I wasn't too far off after all was I...🤦‍♂️


    1-1, banana skin...🙄
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 100,127
    2002 World Cup was the last time a team won all three Group Games and went on to lift the trophy.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,245
    robroy said:
    Eze was very poor, don’t get the hype with him. 

    Agree don't really see what he offers England surprised he was picked ahead of Gibbs-White, Foden or Palmer 

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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,443
    robroy said:
    Eze was very poor, don’t get the hype with him. 

    Agree don't really see what he offers England surprised he was picked ahead of Gibbs-White, Foden or Palmer 
    Foden has done absolutely nothing to warrant a place in this squad. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 100,127
    In hindsight the defensive moments involving Pickford and Konsa are more concerning than our inability to win. If we get to the KO's then the majority of teams we face are going to be just as attacking as ourselves, especially if we get to the stage where we're facing France / Argentina / Spain... and we went toe to toe with France, and lost by a penalty miss, so I dont expect us to simply wilt the moment we come up against a decent team, just because we cant beat Ghana.
    We've got enough pace ourselves as we showed against Croatia to give them something to think about, but its the other big side giving us something to worry defensively about too, that is the problem, but we'll deal with that if and when we get there... The downside is we're currently up against Cabo Verde in the RO32 so would expect a repeat of last night if that match up stays the same
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,433
    Sword65pf said:
    Learn more from this than anything else. He’s better than Southgate, just gotta roll with the punches.
    How do you quantify that?
    Well Spain drew against shit and lost their opener when they won it. Argentina lost against Saudi and won it. 

    The reaction doesn’t level the outcome. If anything Tuchel will learn more. When he won the CL with Chelsea I know they didn’t win convincing every single game.
    Spain and Argentina were much better sides than we are now though.


    That is Argentina’s starting team in the final - apart from Messi, it’s really not that impressive. 
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,433
    Never seen Matt Godden miss the target from such a golden opportunity as Kane did. I mean that as a serious observation as well.
    What is your point? Kane is the best striker in the world, but that doesn’t mean he’ll score every single chance he gets. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 100,127
    Good angle of the incident that Pickford "got away with"
    rThreeLions - Clearer angle of the red card incident

  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,446
    fenaddick said:
    Have to remember that knockout games won’t be like this. It won’t be a low block for 120 minutes+
    How do you think one of the third placed sides (if we win the group) will set up against us then?
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,479
    edited 7:17AM
    fenaddick said:
    Have to remember that knockout games won’t be like this. It won’t be a low block for 120 minutes+
    How do you think one of the third placed sides (if we win the group) will set up against us then?
    Or Mexico in a potental R32 at Azteca? Also what happens if we concede early against a top team? 

    We need to learn how to break down teams who sit back. Luckily we get another crack at one this week
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,806
    We're still looking suspect at the back, a better team will take advantage of that.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,440
    fenaddick said:
    Have to remember that knockout games won’t be like this. It won’t be a low block for 120 minutes+
    How do you think one of the third placed sides (if we win the group) will set up against us then?
    I’ve already mentioned it but I don’t think a team will be able to execute it for a full 120 minutes. It might be a frustrating watch but we’d get chances in the last 10 (as we did last night) and in extra time too
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,630
    Its the whole point of being low margin. 

    Defend narrow and compact, restrict space congest the dangerous areas of the pitch. Ghana had some players who were capable of giving us something to think about. Then it takes a centre half to slip, a header to be missed on a set piece and its going to be a legitimate nightmare. We have strong, fast players who were picked to go at teams, run behind, give options for Bellingham and Kane to pass to. 

    Honestly, I'm not the most positive football fan and that was a boring game to watch last night but it was not anywhere near as bad as is being made out this morning