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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,312
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    I never said he was any good. My question was he THAT bad ? I can think of several people who got involved with the club in the last ten years that make Methvan look like a genius. 

    Of course if you are to compare him to the likes of peanut head then he was fantastic.
    However, I can only say that he'd still be in a job if the owners thought he was upto it.
    I wonder how much longer he'll be with Mount Pleasant IF he ends up with Wednesday.  He does not tend to stick around long in positions.
    Personally if he gets involved in Sheff Wed I hope he crashes and burns but I’m just puzzled as to what did wrong at Charlton . Wasn’t he involved in bringing in the investors we have now ? 
    I know he looked a twat on Sunderland til I die and he dresses like a posh 7 year old going to a kids party but I’ve still not heard anything that he did at Charlton that makes him that bad ? 

    I can only repeat what I have said mate, sorry.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,368
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    I never said he was any good. My question was he THAT bad ? I can think of several people who got involved with the club in the last ten years that make Methvan look like a genius. 

    Of course if you are to compare him to the likes of peanut head then he was fantastic.
    However, I can only say that he'd still be in a job if the owners thought he was upto it.
    I wonder how much longer he'll be with Mount Pleasant IF he ends up with Wednesday.  He does not tend to stick around long in positions.
    Personally if he gets involved in Sheff Wed I hope he crashes and burns but I’m just puzzled as to what did wrong at Charlton . Wasn’t he involved in bringing in the investors we have now ? 
    I know he looked a twat on Sunderland til I die and he dresses like a posh 7 year old going to a kids party but I’ve still not heard anything that he did at Charlton that makes him that bad ? 
    The question is if he was not bad, why did the owners feel the need to move him on/stop him moving on (whatever version of events you believe)
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,312
    Charlie Methven is the former Executive Director of Sunderland AFC and CEO of Charlton Athletic FC. A former national newspaper columnist with the Daily Telegraph and Marcomms Agency chairman, Methven's career in football started with Advisory roles at Arsenal, Oxford United and Tottenham Hotspur. He moved in to football's C-Suite world at Sunderland between 2018 and 2022, and Charlton from July 2023 to March 2025, before stepping down to accept a new role running Mount Pleasant FA, the leading club in the Caribbean region with a large residential elite academy. Outside of football, Methven has also been an adviser to McLaren F1, the Jockey Club, the Bahrain Grand Prix and the government of Qatar in the run-up to the 2022 World Cup.

    *****
    These advisory roles do spruce up a CV, was he asked a question and gave an answer?!!!!!

  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,336
    edited November 6
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    I never said he was any good. My question was he THAT bad ? I can think of several people who got involved with the club in the last ten years that make Methvan look like a genius. 

    Of course if you are to compare him to the likes of peanut head then he was fantastic.
    However, I can only say that he'd still be in a job if the owners thought he was upto it.
    I wonder how much longer he'll be with Mount Pleasant IF he ends up with Wednesday.  He does not tend to stick around long in positions.
    Personally if he gets involved in Sheff Wed I hope he crashes and burns but I’m just puzzled as to what did wrong at Charlton . Wasn’t he involved in bringing in the investors we have now ? 
    I know he looked a twat on Sunderland til I die and he dresses like a posh 7 year old going to a kids party but I’ve still not heard anything that he did at Charlton that makes him that bad ? 
    Genuinely, you're not ITK. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,879
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    I never said he was any good. My question was he THAT bad ? I can think of several people who got involved with the club in the last ten years that make Methvan look like a genius. 

    Of course if you are to compare him to the likes of peanut head then he was fantastic.
    However, I can only say that he'd still be in a job if the owners thought he was upto it.
    I wonder how much longer he'll be with Mount Pleasant IF he ends up with Wednesday.  He does not tend to stick around long in positions.
    Personally if he gets involved in Sheff Wed I hope he crashes and burns but I’m just puzzled as to what did wrong at Charlton . Wasn’t he involved in bringing in the investors we have now ? 
    I know he looked a twat on Sunderland til I die and he dresses like a posh 7 year old going to a kids party but I’ve still not heard anything that he did at Charlton that makes him that bad ? 
    The question is if he was not bad, why did the owners feel the need to move him on/stop him moving on (whatever version of events you believe)
    That’s exactly the question I’m asking . Why ? 
  • I find it very hard to believe that a country with as much money as Qatar, who could probably afford to pay anyone anything, scoured the world looking for advice on the 2022 World Cup and the man they decided to ask was Charlie Methven.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,879
    J BLOCK said:
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    I never said he was any good. My question was he THAT bad ? I can think of several people who got involved with the club in the last ten years that make Methvan look like a genius. 

    Of course if you are to compare him to the likes of peanut head then he was fantastic.
    However, I can only say that he'd still be in a job if the owners thought he was upto it.
    I wonder how much longer he'll be with Mount Pleasant IF he ends up with Wednesday.  He does not tend to stick around long in positions.
    Personally if he gets involved in Sheff Wed I hope he crashes and burns but I’m just puzzled as to what did wrong at Charlton . Wasn’t he involved in bringing in the investors we have now ? 
    I know he looked a twat on Sunderland til I die and he dresses like a posh 7 year old going to a kids party but I’ve still not heard anything that he did at Charlton that makes him that bad ? 
    Genuinely, you're not ITK. 
    That’s very true . 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,184
    Surely with Wednesday it would be a similar thing to us , he'll front a consortium probably bring Rodwell with him and the money would be in the background 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,806
    I think he could be both bad a good. Maybe he was ousted because he was shit, he semed shit at Sunderland but if he was never involved with us or them, would we be in the position we are in now. Would we have these owners without him?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,788
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    I never said he was any good. My question was he THAT bad ? I can think of several people who got involved with the club in the last ten years that make Methvan look like a genius. 

    Of course if you are to compare him to the likes of peanut head then he was fantastic.
    However, I can only say that he'd still be in a job if the owners thought he was upto it.
    I wonder how much longer he'll be with Mount Pleasant IF he ends up with Wednesday.  He does not tend to stick around long in positions.
    Personally if he gets involved in Sheff Wed I hope he crashes and burns but I’m just puzzled as to what did wrong at Charlton . Wasn’t he involved in bringing in the investors we have now ? 
    I know he looked a twat on Sunderland til I die and he dresses like a posh 7 year old going to a kids party but I’ve still not heard anything that he did at Charlton that makes him that bad ? 
    I think he tried to convince our new owners that he could get us promoted on the cheap and that he could reduce our running costs to a minimum. 
    Once they realised he was talking bollox they got rid of him.
    Like  ElfsborgAddick said if the owners thought he was doing a good job  they would have kept him on.

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  • Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    Could also apply to about 15 managers from our past.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,378
    Was he that bad for us ? 
    Yes
    Ok that ends the discussion then . The oracle has spoken . 
    Was he that bad for us ? 
    Yes
    Ok that ends the discussion then . The oracle has spoken . 

    You asked a question and you got an answer you didn't want.  

    If you wanted an explanation or more information you could have asked or just read the very long thread about him or even just asked yourself why he's no longer with us.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,378
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    Oversaw the lowest position in our history for a start.
    And that was his fault ? Come on. The club was rotten to the core when he/they took over . It takes more than a few months to sort that out and thankfully they did and pretty quickly when you think about it. 

    The way I saw it, and I could be very wrong here.
    The owners came over in January and had seen enough so started to get more involved.
    If Methven was any good he'd still be with us.
    Yes
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,428
    edited November 6

  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,879
    Was he that bad for us ? 
    Yes
    Ok that ends the discussion then . The oracle has spoken . 
    Was he that bad for us ? 
    Yes
    Ok that ends the discussion then . The oracle has spoken . 

    You asked a question and you got an answer you didn't want.  

    If you wanted an explanation or more information you could have asked or just read the very long thread about him or even just asked yourself why he's no longer with us.
    Why would I ask you ? As I said - End of conversation 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,122
    Was he that bad for us ? 

    Yes.

    How long did he last?

    Besides, I thought he was involved heavily with the MD of the Mount Pleasant FA.
    And what did he did with us that was so bad ? I’m just interested. Perhaps I completely missed it ? 

    He was entertaining guests at the club’s expense after many/most home games and ran up four figure bar bills on each occasion (allegedly).

    He also said to the owners & anyone that heard that 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,825

    Not quite literally PMSL at one of the replies to this. Example no 3067 as to why you shouldn't take AI responses as gospel.

  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,671
    Ten parties have now provided proof of funds to administrators at Sheffield Wednesday as the process of finding a buyer for the club continues, BBC Radio Sheffield understands.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cy8v2zpzjd7o
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,438
    Massive news
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,267
    Hope they don't get ashley, he will take them to the prem 100%

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  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,753
    edited November 10
    Ten parties have now provided proof of funds to administrators at Sheffield Wednesday as the process of finding a buyer for the club continues, BBC Radio Sheffield understands.

    It will be interesting to see how this process plays out. The administrators expected double figures for showing proof of funds for £50m. Now the question is how many of those parties make an offer.

    They (Wednesday fans) will need to recognise that showing proof of funds does not guarantee all 10 will eventually make a bid.

    However, we've seen at Birmingham City that things can develop quickly with investment and a plan. They will be hoping whoever emerges to buy the club in the coming weeks can provide ideas and hope for the future, to go with deep pockets, in order to get this club finally moving in the right direction.

    There is a lot of potential at Sheffield Wednesday. This is the best opportunity in some time for it to be realised.

  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,147
    It will be an absolute joke if their embargo’s are lifted upon a sale, making it absolutely fine to cheat, as long as you sell the club.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,625
    It will be an absolute joke if their embargo’s are lifted upon a sale, making it absolutely fine to cheat, as long as you sell the club.
    Happens all the time Palace, Southampton both got to Prem through admin and shafting other businesses
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,249
    It will be an absolute joke if their embargo’s are lifted upon a sale, making it absolutely fine to cheat, as long as you sell the club.
    Weren't we under a transfer embargo that was lifted post ESI?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,393
    edited November 11
    swordfish said:
    It will be an absolute joke if their embargo’s are lifted upon a sale, making it absolutely fine to cheat, as long as you sell the club.
    Weren't we under a transfer embargo that was lifted post ESI?
    We got put under a different embargo, we simply couldn't buy players until someone passed the Owner and Directors Test, difficult to know though, as annoyingly it was never really reported - Sheffield Wednesday on the other hand have currently been put under a three window embargo.

    I presume that the rules have since changed, partly because of what happened with us?
  • It will be an absolute joke if their embargo’s are lifted upon a sale, making it absolutely fine to cheat, as long as you sell the club.
    Isn't that why the points penalty was introduced?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,184
    Weren't Derby after being sold to David Clowes still under some restrictions until this summer regarding spending needing to be approved by the EFL? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,152
    edited November 11
    Wednesday’s embargoes are similar to the one we had. What they also have is a fee restriction. The embargoes will be lifted but according to the rules the fee restriction won’t 
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,979
    It may also take some time for the interested parties to carry out due diligence and get the deal over the line in time for the Jan transfer window.
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,158
    fenaddick said:
    Wednesday’s embargoes are similar to the one we had. What they also have is a fee restriction. The embargoes will be lifted but according to the rules the fee restriction won’t 
    Whilst true to the rules, I have a horrible feeling they will weasel out of it somehow.