++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++

golfaddick said:

Oh dear. A striker being berated for not scoring goals. Whatever next. Perhaps we should have kept Alfie May. 

Be careful for what you wished for.

golfaddick said:

Oh dear. A striker being berated for not scoring goals. Whatever next. Perhaps we should have kept Alfie May. 

Be careful for what you wished for.

Kinsella87 said:

golfaddick said:

Oh dear. A striker being berated for not scoring goals. Whatever next. Perhaps we should have kept Alfie May. 

Be careful for what you wished for.

Let it go mate, things couldn't have gone much better since hes left.

Crispywood said:

Rothko said:

and Cov moved on from Godden 18 months ago as he wasn't doing it in the Championship. 

We can say this but this was a man competing with Gyokeres, Simms, Wright for football, respectfully Leaburn Kelman Tanto TC come nowhere close to those lot and do keep in mind Godden managed to bag 6 in 7 games at the start of the year would be enough to be our top scorer for the season 

Sword65pf said:

Might see Kelman and Godden together for all we know, Godden has the ability and  intelligence to play others in. So not certain it will one or the other.

NabySarr said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Sword65pf said:

Might see Kelman and Godden together for all we know, Godden has the ability and  intelligence to play others in. So not certain it will one or the other.

Charlton vs Southampton could be an interesting one

Its after the International Break (when Godden is rumoured to return), and James Bree will be ineligible to play, could we see those two alongside each other at some stage, with Campbell in the Small Wing-Back role.

Although I still feel TC's issue to his form, is the fact that we need a Small type player out on the Right, because at the moment, teams can double up on Campbell without fear of being overloaded down the other flank. It can't exactly be a coincidence that others have felt that Campbell's form hasn't been consistent since the end of last season, which is when Small was injured, and then came back into the side himself without the same sort of impact.

It’s a shame for TC, but we still really benefit from him being doubled up on. Bree is the main beneficiary and the reason why he gets more space is because TC has 2 on him most of the time, if we move the ball to the other side quick enough then Bree has more time and space to cross/shoot. The goal against Derby is the clearest example 

Our open play tactic last year and in August was all about creating 1v1 situations for TC and Small/Apter, with Godden and attacking midfielders ready to benefit in the box. 

This year is slightly different, if we can get TC 1v1 then that’s great, but if not then the space is created elsewhere for Carey on the edge of the box or for Bree on the other side. This is why a lot of the benefits of TC are unseen, Carey and Bree don’t get that space without TC occupying 2 defenders but people don’t see it because all TC is usually doing is getting on the ball and then passing it when 2 defenders are on him 

Kinsella87 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Kinsella87 said:

golfaddick said:

Oh dear. A striker being berated for not scoring goals. Whatever next. Perhaps we should have kept Alfie May. 

Be careful for what you wished for.

Let it go mate, things couldn't have gone much better since hes left.

I mean its a good argument to make about keeping Alfie May - After all even the team that broke the League One points record didn't want to keep him going into the Championship, and they sit four points behind us so far.

And that Alfie May would have gone anyways even if we wanted to keep him, he was offered a higher salary, fair play to him.

Addick Addict said:

I keep stressing that, in moaning about Kelman not scoring, we are actually undermining what NJ and the team as a whole has achieved. Once again, he's started 8 games and had the game been stopped at 60 minutes (shortly before he's invariably hooked) we would have 19 points from those matches and not conceded a single goal. We're in sixth, not in the relegation zone.

It's not as if he's missing chance after chance and unless we want to pay £20m for someone Jaden Philogene, Kelman isn't going to beat three players and then find the top corner from 25 yards.

On the other hand we could pay £15m for someone like Jay Stansfield instead. But hang on, Stansfield scored 19 last season including no less that 9 penalties so net 10 in open play. Kelman scored 21 with just a single penalty so net 20 in open play.

Anyone want to guess the identity of the player who has created the most chances (no less than 30 in 12 games) in the Championship this season? Someone called Sorba Thomas. Remember him? He was the one  that we wanted to buy on the cheap from Boreham Wood and their Chairman called us out for doing so. He went to Huddersfield for between £750k-£1m and Stoke then paid £2.5m for him. Here's the big question, though - if he's alone created 30 chances and has scored four goals of Stoke's 13 himself, then how come the rest of the squad only have nine goals between them? How come they are above us?

This time last year I suggested that we should re-assess NJ's position at the end of the season. I believe that we should do the same with Kelman. In doing so, it might be worth considering that last season he scored 15 goals in his final 20 appearances. Making him a scapegoat when we've scored as many as a team, as the side in third place and more than the one in fifth seems rather premature given we've only played 12 games and are doing a million times better than most thought we would.  

Sword65pf said:

RonnieMoore said:

Kinsella87 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Kinsella87 said:

golfaddick said:

Oh dear. A striker being berated for not scoring goals. Whatever next. Perhaps we should have kept Alfie May. 

Be careful for what you wished for.

Let it go mate, things couldn't have gone much better since hes left.

I mean its a good argument to make about keeping Alfie May - After all even the team that broke the League One points record didn't want to keep him going into the Championship, and they sit four points behind us so far.

And that Alfie May would have gone anyways even if we wanted to keep him, he was offered a higher salary, fair play to him.

Nothing to do with money he wanted to be back closer to his family as he said in the farewell video .. that’s the only reason he left 

And the money, I was told this by an Alfie may close friend.

Crispywood said:

I don’t think it’s unfair to demand more from Kelman and same goes for our other forwards just because we’re sitting in 6th place.

 We’ve started really well but with a better pair of forwards we could easily be sitting 2nd-3rd.

I know we’re a defend first attack later team so the defence will look better but even the defence is doing the forwards job as well. When your 2nd choice LCB has the same number of goals as your entire front line at what point does working hard not become enough 

Sword65pf said:

killerandflash said:

Rothko said:

and Cov moved on from Godden 18 months ago as he wasn't doing it in the Championship. 

QPR were happy to sell Kelman to us in the summer. 

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/leagues/48/stats/season/27195/players/rating/team/8451/charlton-athletic

The Fotmob ratings are interesting, as they show that none of our strikers have done the business this season, and all feature on page 2 of the Charlton rankings. But Kelman is bottom, reflecting his lack of impact on games.

https://www.fotmob.com/en-GB/leagues/48/stats/season/27195/players/poss_won_att_3rd/team/8451

This is the possession won  in the final 3rd stat per 90. Even on that stat he's well behind Miles and Tanto.

Luckily stats don’t mean shit until you use them as a stick to beat players with, Kelman has scored one less than our other strikers. People can see with their own eyes that there is work to do, but can also see it is an improving working process that has us sitting in sixth. At this stage I’m more than happy with that because I know we will get better, it’s what NJ’s teams do. As others have said judge properly at the end of the season.