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Its gone that waywmcf123 said:It’s not a good podcast. The guests nod along and laugh uncontrollably at any old rubbish that the guests come out with.
A lot of podcast hosts fall into this of not actually listening to what their guests are saying and rigidly sticking to a pre-written set of questions. Say what you like about Joe Rogan, he listens and reacts to what his guests say so does Marc Maron, Geoff Norcott, Russel Kane as much as I think he's a disingenuous melt, James O'brien does on his as well even if it sounds wank him doing it.
Different level, I know but the three who do this one I think are all about making it about Jon Parkin. They clearly have a set of questions written out and will stick to them and jack knife off onto one of those questions when someone has said something worth giving more time to. They are good with people they know well but the 3 of them are clueless when it comes to especially players who played in London
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Well, we weren't skint, we spent £3m in that window and got 4 players in. For reference in previous January windows Curbs signed just Marcus Bent for £2.3m (which was a bit mad), no-one at all the season before that, Jerome Thomas and Chris Perry for about £200,000 before that and some short term frees before that. We got in two very good loans and spent poorly on Thatcher and Bougherra. We've never spent more in a January window so skint just isn't true. Losing Darren Bent to injury wasn't ideal I agree, but the fact is that Pardew couldn't take a squad that was good enough to stay up - if still quite rubbish - and galvanise them into action, the initial lift fell away very quickly and not winning any of your last 7 games is going out with a whimper. We needed more from him and we didn't get it, we definitely weren't too far adrift when he came inOrmiston_Addick said:
Understand your position, but you also have to remember that not only were we skint in the transfer market, but we also lost Bent for six games in January and February, he was our only source of goals that season.Garrymanilow said:
I think that gives him a bit too much credit. He had enough time to keep us up, he just couldn't keep things going for long enough after a very brief spell of being decent. He had a tough start playing three top 4 teams but once we got that big result against West Ham we should have kicked on comfortably to safety. We won 3 in 4 and then just...stopped. Reading, Boro and especially Sheffield United at home should have been wins and City and Blackburn away at that stage in their season is the kind of game a team fighting not to go down needs to scrap out a win. We didn't win any of our last 7 games, we drew the kinds of games we should have been winning and got battered by teams where we needed to fight for an upset. We were only 4 points adrift of a pretty poor Wigan side in the end, he just couldn't galvanise a team with Alex Song, Andy Reid, Darren Bent, Luke Young and Scott Carson in itOrmiston_Addick said:
He had a poisoned chalice with us, if he'd come in a month earlier he would have kept us up, but we were too far adrift and couldn't get back.killerandflash said:To be fair Pardew had a successful managerial career. 859 games, and 2 FA Cup finals. His time with us was his biggest failure.
Moreover, remember that Dowie spunked all our dough on absolute shite in the summer, meaning we had no money to strengthen in January.
We did OK in the first season back in the Championship until we were forced to sell Andy Reid in the window.
After beating Palace 2-0 at The Valley on February 8th - putting us 5th in the league - we only won three of our last fifteen games and the die was cast.
Bottom line is that by the time he came in we had 12 points after 19 games, that was a shocking platform to build from.
Pardew got us 22 points from 19 games which would have kept us up over a full season.2 -
I was actually talking about West Ham specifically.SporadicAddick said:
Of course they exist. Fans become footballers.NomadicAddick said:Anyone else find watching him feels like a time gone by? He mentioned being a ‘West Ham boy’ and it was ‘his club’… feels like those sort of players just don’t exist anymore. Not to romanise West Ham too much but he’s West Ham through and through, as much as Curbs was and Bobby
Moore before them. Those people just don’t seem to exist anymore and it’s kind of sad.I’d imagine if they ever had Rob Elliot on, he would possibly talk about Charlton being ‘my club”.0 -
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Totally disagree. We as football fans should appreciate the honesty. These guys are notOrmiston_Addick said:Carter said:
If you listen to a few episodes of that podcast you will find players in the main have an amazingly naive approach to being a professional footballer.Ormiston_Addick said:His comments about Curbishley were very naive, he was pissed off because the club wouldn't sell him and Scott Parker to Sunderland!
Christ on a bike, why would we sell our best young players to a rival club unless the money was too good to refuse?
Both players were England internationals, as if the club is going to just hand them over to Sunderland on a plate!
I thought his description of Parker's behaviour to force a move was disgraceful, what a shocking way to behave and you have no doubt that Parker would go radio rental if one of HIS players did that.
I think a lot of managers have a lot to answer for as well, they don't fancy a player, they are under pressure to get them out. Jon Parkins attitude was to get his contract paid up or be disruptive as possible in training. He was capable of scoring some absolute bangers as he did against us but he was in horrible condition as an athlete and had no intention of doing anything other than what he wanted. Professionals seem to lose any love they had for a childhood team as well once they are in the machine. I get it, its a short career but I labour under the false hope good players and managers give a bit more of a shit about the emotional investment made by fans.
Even though they are long retired I think it's a bad look for players to talk about how they behaved in these situations, it doesn't reflect well on them at all, and I would include Parkin in that.
He's a decent bloke on there and a good laugh, but his behaviour in forcing a move was shonky.
The same goes for Ben Foster openly talking about his wages on his Fozcast podcast, there is no need for it, we know you were on great money when you were in the Premier League, there is no need to give us the details!
messi and ronaldo, and so what if they’re sharing how they acted in what is essentially another life.
Many, many situations that are described by ex pros, even if as a fan of the club in question, you can totally understand why they did what they did. I find it all refreshingly honest.
I would also say most of the best stories come from those that were not media trained. Can’t imagine the likes of Foden and Jude sharing the same level of stories the generation before them do.Danny Mills went on the UndrTheCosh podcast and it was not as revealing as others.Andy Woodman has been on there and that is a must watch. Probably the funniest fella I have ever come across, apart from @clb741 -
wmcf123 said:It’s not a good podcast. The guests nod along and laugh uncontrollably at any old rubbish that the guests come out with.
I believe this was one of the early podcasts, it depends on what takes your fancy but the majority give stories of off the field stuff that is usually very funny. Perhaps not everybody's cup of tea.
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His reception at the Leicester game was mediocre at best, the biggest roar was for Tracey and rightly so.0
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I discovered Undr the Cosh during lockdown and listen when it is an ex Charlton connection or a player or manager whose career interested me.
The first episode I found was Ronnie Moore. I enjoyed it ,but was disappointed it almost exclusively focused on his managerial career. We didn't get mentioned.
Like others have posted , as a Charlton player I was always disappointed Paul was not used more as a left footed midfield player. He linked very well with SCP when he played there. IMHO he wasn't such a good left back.
Having heard the whole podcast. I agree he seemed negative when discussing us. At the end he mentioned being a match day host at West Ham and he hoped to do likewise at Fulham. He talked about his attendance at the recent Leicester game from a Foxes rather than Charlton perspective.
He seemed to imply that we were not really a Prem club and his Spurs loan meant he could play with better quality players. He said it was tough to go back there in our Xmas period win at WHL just after leaving them.
The Curbs story also doesn't reflect well on him. It seems it was ok for Alan to oust him at Charlton , but he hated what happened at West Ham.
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Depends if Iain Dowie getting hammered is one’s cup of tea, I guess . Once you’ve seen one , you’ve seen them allElfsborgAddick said:wmcf123 said:It’s not a good podcast. The guests nod along and laugh uncontrollably at any old rubbish that the guests come out with.
I believe this was one of the early podcasts, it depends on what takes your fancy but the majority give stories of off the field stuff that is usually very funny. Perhaps not everybody's cup of tea.0 -
wmcf123 said:
Depends if Iain Dowie getting hammered is one’s cup of tea, I guess . Once you’ve seen one , you’ve seen them allElfsborgAddick said:wmcf123 said:It’s not a good podcast. The guests nod along and laugh uncontrollably at any old rubbish that the guests come out with.
I believe this was one of the early podcasts, it depends on what takes your fancy but the majority give stories of off the field stuff that is usually very funny. Perhaps not everybody's cup of tea.
I watched the Dowie one and he came across well tbf. He spoke well of us from what I can remember.
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Iain Dowie presents himself brilliantly, it was Richard Murrays feedback "he interviews very well" we all know people at work like that!
He isnt a stupid man by any chalk. We were way too far ahead of his methods which I cam imagine galvanising a more agricultural group but with the players we had at the time would have just left a load of them shaking their heads. Rightly or wrongly0 - Sponsored links:
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Carter said:Iain Dowie presents himself brilliantly, it was Richard Murrays feedback "he interviews very well" we all know people at work like that!
He isnt a stupid man by any chalk. We were way too far ahead of his methods which I cam imagine galvanising a more agricultural group but with the players we had at the time would have just left a load of them shaking their heads. Rightly or wrongly
Whilst it was always a dangerous appointment and we could have brought in better, if we had not sacked him I think he would have kept us up.
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I enjoyed that. Didn’t think he came across too badly and was refreshing to hear him talk modestly about imposter syndrome and not always backing himself, compared to the usual arrogance and rewriting of history from ex pros on podcasts. I was amazed he was only 24 when he left us though. Seemed like he was with us forever. I’d forgotten about the Liverpool move too.3
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He came across well imo and particularly liked how he felt when with the big boys in the England squad.JaShea99 said:I enjoyed that. Didn’t think he came across too badly and was refreshing to hear him talk modestly about imposter syndrome and not always backing himself, compared to the usual arrogance and rewriting of history from ex pros on podcasts. I was amazed he was only 24 when he left us though. Seemed like he was with us forever. I’d forgotten about the Liverpool move too.
I'm surprised at some of the flak he's been given on here.2 -
He wasn’t gushing about Charlton, but then again I don’t think he said anything against us.
Think that as a fanbase we can be a bit sensitive when former players don’t talk us up all the time (Rob Lee often seems to be on the receiving end of flak for this strangely).
Konchesky played for his boyhood club West Ham, scored in a cup final for them. He got to a European Cup final with Fulham. He also got the chance to play under Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool. His heart is clearly with a bunch of different clubs, for good reason.
His only ‘gripe’ when it comes to Charlton is seemingly his relationship with Curbishley.4 -
I stopped listening to it when I realised that every episode is essentially footballers doing nothing to dispel the belief that they are overpaid idiots mostly. It's just the hosts sat around laughing at stories of unprofessional behaviour.Carter said:
Its gone that waywmcf123 said:It’s not a good podcast. The guests nod along and laugh uncontrollably at any old rubbish that the guests come out with.
A lot of podcast hosts fall into this of not actually listening to what their guests are saying and rigidly sticking to a pre-written set of questions. Say what you like about Joe Rogan, he listens and reacts to what his guests say so does Marc Maron, Geoff Norcott, Russel Kane as much as I think he's a disingenuous melt, James O'brien does on his as well even if it sounds wank him doing it.
Different level, I know but the three who do this one I think are all about making it about Jon Parkin. They clearly have a set of questions written out and will stick to them and jack knife off onto one of those questions when someone has said something worth giving more time to. They are good with people they know well but the 3 of them are clueless when it comes to especially players who played in London1 -
No chance, we were bottom with 8 losses from 12 games with him in charge, he was clueless, and showed it after us in every other club he was at.ElfsborgAddick said:Carter said:Iain Dowie presents himself brilliantly, it was Richard Murrays feedback "he interviews very well" we all know people at work like that!
He isnt a stupid man by any chalk. We were way too far ahead of his methods which I cam imagine galvanising a more agricultural group but with the players we had at the time would have just left a load of them shaking their heads. Rightly or wrongly
Whilst it was always a dangerous appointment and we could have brought in better, if we had not sacked him I think he would have kept us up.0 -
Nicky weaver is on under the cosh and talks about jerome Thomas which was quite funny1
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The Si Ferry one about Dicanio at Swindon is very funny!!ElfsborgAddick said:NomadicAddick said:
Totally disagree. We as football fans should appreciate the honesty. These guys are notOrmiston_Addick said:Carter said:
If you listen to a few episodes of that podcast you will find players in the main have an amazingly naive approach to being a professional footballer.Ormiston_Addick said:His comments about Curbishley were very naive, he was pissed off because the club wouldn't sell him and Scott Parker to Sunderland!
Christ on a bike, why would we sell our best young players to a rival club unless the money was too good to refuse?
Both players were England internationals, as if the club is going to just hand them over to Sunderland on a plate!
I thought his description of Parker's behaviour to force a move was disgraceful, what a shocking way to behave and you have no doubt that Parker would go radio rental if one of HIS players did that.
I think a lot of managers have a lot to answer for as well, they don't fancy a player, they are under pressure to get them out. Jon Parkins attitude was to get his contract paid up or be disruptive as possible in training. He was capable of scoring some absolute bangers as he did against us but he was in horrible condition as an athlete and had no intention of doing anything other than what he wanted. Professionals seem to lose any love they had for a childhood team as well once they are in the machine. I get it, its a short career but I labour under the false hope good players and managers give a bit more of a shit about the emotional investment made by fans.
Even though they are long retired I think it's a bad look for players to talk about how they behaved in these situations, it doesn't reflect well on them at all, and I would include Parkin in that.
He's a decent bloke on there and a good laugh, but his behaviour in forcing a move was shonky.
The same goes for Ben Foster openly talking about his wages on his Fozcast podcast, there is no need for it, we know you were on great money when you were in the Premier League, there is no need to give us the details!
messi and ronaldo, and so what if they’re sharing how they acted in what is essentially another life.
Many, many situations that are described by ex pros, even if as a fan of the club in question, you can totally understand why they did what they did. I find it all refreshingly honest.
I would also say most of the best stories come from those that were not media trained. Can’t imagine the likes of Foden and Jude sharing the same level of stories the generation before them do.Danny Mills went on the UndrTheCosh podcast and it was not as revealing as others.Andy Woodman has been on there and that is a must watch. Probably the funniest fella I have ever come across, apart from @clb743 -
Agreed, have seen that one. League 1 Wes!995632 said:
The Si Ferry one about Dicanio at Swindon is very funny!!ElfsborgAddick said:NomadicAddick said:
Totally disagree. We as football fans should appreciate the honesty. These guys are notOrmiston_Addick said:Carter said:
If you listen to a few episodes of that podcast you will find players in the main have an amazingly naive approach to being a professional footballer.Ormiston_Addick said:His comments about Curbishley were very naive, he was pissed off because the club wouldn't sell him and Scott Parker to Sunderland!
Christ on a bike, why would we sell our best young players to a rival club unless the money was too good to refuse?
Both players were England internationals, as if the club is going to just hand them over to Sunderland on a plate!
I thought his description of Parker's behaviour to force a move was disgraceful, what a shocking way to behave and you have no doubt that Parker would go radio rental if one of HIS players did that.
I think a lot of managers have a lot to answer for as well, they don't fancy a player, they are under pressure to get them out. Jon Parkins attitude was to get his contract paid up or be disruptive as possible in training. He was capable of scoring some absolute bangers as he did against us but he was in horrible condition as an athlete and had no intention of doing anything other than what he wanted. Professionals seem to lose any love they had for a childhood team as well once they are in the machine. I get it, its a short career but I labour under the false hope good players and managers give a bit more of a shit about the emotional investment made by fans.
Even though they are long retired I think it's a bad look for players to talk about how they behaved in these situations, it doesn't reflect well on them at all, and I would include Parkin in that.
He's a decent bloke on there and a good laugh, but his behaviour in forcing a move was shonky.
The same goes for Ben Foster openly talking about his wages on his Fozcast podcast, there is no need for it, we know you were on great money when you were in the Premier League, there is no need to give us the details!
messi and ronaldo, and so what if they’re sharing how they acted in what is essentially another life.
Many, many situations that are described by ex pros, even if as a fan of the club in question, you can totally understand why they did what they did. I find it all refreshingly honest.
I would also say most of the best stories come from those that were not media trained. Can’t imagine the likes of Foden and Jude sharing the same level of stories the generation before them do.Danny Mills went on the UndrTheCosh podcast and it was not as revealing as others.Andy Woodman has been on there and that is a must watch. Probably the funniest fella I have ever come across, apart from @clb740 - Sponsored links:
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Luke Varneys done an under the cosh.
Vaguely similar story telling.
The f word is frequent and he said pardew briefly tried to chat up his wife0 -
Saša Ilić's episode was good too0
