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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • edited September 1
    As others have said I can't imagine a player like Bree in his mid-20's who started that many premier league games last season coming in as RWB cover for Charlton. He will expect to start and begs the question where does Apter move to? We cannot drop Apter, has been far and away the best of the new recruits so far, perhaps he moves into the TC role? 
    If it's Apter vs Bree, rather than one being cover, it's a lot of fierce competition for that RWB role which will likely drive them both on.  
  • fenaddick said:
    CB1 said:
    Preston also now want Tom cannon on loan from Sheff U. This has to mean that we are the favourites for David Fofana. 
    If we actually are in for him
    O'Rourke is usually fairly reliable though isnt he... Unless he's doing Agents a favour.

    He's not Cawley levels, but he's not as a shit as Nixon
    I tend to add an extra 10-15% bit of doubt to non Cawley journos during deadline day!
  • As others have said I can't imagine a player like Bree in his mid-20's who started that many premier league games last season coming in as RWB cover for Charlton. He will expect to start and begs the question where does Apter move to? We cannot drop Apter, has been far and away the best of the new recruits so far, perhaps he moves into the TC role? 
    I think TC will be dropped for next few games. These players have to earn the right to be play every game. 
  • CB1 said:
    fenaddick said:
    CB1 said:
    Preston also now want Tom cannon on loan from Sheff U. This has to mean that we are the favourites for David Fofana. 
    If we actually are in for him
    O'Rourke is usually fairly reliable though isnt he... Unless he's doing Agents a favour.

    He's not Cawley levels, but he's not as a shit as Nixon
    He got Apter right before anyone. 
    I thought there was one or two that he got wrong for us as well this summer?
  • As others have said I can't imagine a player like Bree in his mid-20's who started that many premier league games last season coming in as RWB cover for Charlton. He will expect to start and begs the question where does Apter move to? We cannot drop Apter, has been far and away the best of the new recruits so far, perhaps he moves into the TC role? 
    Bree isn’t fit so there won’t be any change in the short term. 

    I think it’s great that we have so many options, could easily move to something like this: 
               
                           Kaminski
               Ramsay  Jones   Bell

    Bree    Docherty   Coventry.   Edwards 
            
                 Apter             Carey
                         Leaburn 
              
    Quite defensive but good to have that option, with the usual Apter wing back for the games we want to attack more 

           
  • CB1 said:
    fenaddick said:
    CB1 said:
    Preston also now want Tom cannon on loan from Sheff U. This has to mean that we are the favourites for David Fofana. 
    If we actually are in for him
    O'Rourke is usually fairly reliable though isnt he... Unless he's doing Agents a favour.

    He's not Cawley levels, but he's not as a shit as Nixon
    He got Apter right before anyone. 
    Searching #cafc in his tweets this summer he’s posted about

    Kaminski
    Mathias Ross (signed for Plymouth)
    Apter
    Knibbs
    Datro Fofana

    That’s not to say he was the first to break the news on all of these.
  • edited September 1
    thenewbie said:
    hermann said:
    Bree sounds like a good addition but would surely mean the end of the Fukuda interest?
    Which is the way it goes sometimes - I think that the Fukuda interest was real but ultimately we need cover now, not in a few months time. If Fukuda/his club are determined to wait, we'll have to write it off.
    Fukuda doesn't look likely to me having watched some of his game against Okayama on Saturday. Mobile enough but lightweight. Reminds me of Dixon as in potential but small and not ready for what we need. Still the fact Rafael got two smart finishes in that game, (a 5-0 win for Kyoto) and we may have had a scout or two there, gives me hope we are interested in him instead when their season ends.
  • As others have said I can't imagine a player like Bree in his mid-20's who started that many premier league games last season coming in as RWB cover for Charlton. He will expect to start and begs the question where does Apter move to? We cannot drop Apter, has been far and away the best of the new recruits so far, perhaps he moves into the TC role? 
    It's 433 time. 



    Let's get that xG and key chances created up! 
  • As others have said I can't imagine a player like Bree in his mid-20's who started that many premier league games last season coming in as RWB cover for Charlton. He will expect to start and begs the question where does Apter move to? We cannot drop Apter, has been far and away the best of the new recruits so far, perhaps he moves into the TC role? 
    It's 433 time. 



    Let's get that xG and key chances created up! 
    Ramsay as an actual centre back 🤣🤣
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  • MarcusH26 said:
    I'm not ITK having mentioned Bree last night , that was completely based off Southampton signing an RB from Gala on loan 😂😂
    Marcus please can you also your crystal ball to  predict a quality hard- working, ball playing CM too. Maybe Marc Leonard ☺️
  • I love Ramsay but playing him in a 2 would be suicidal 
  • As others have said I can't imagine a player like Bree in his mid-20's who started that many premier league games last season coming in as RWB cover for Charlton. He will expect to start and begs the question where does Apter move to? We cannot drop Apter, has been far and away the best of the new recruits so far, perhaps he moves into the TC role? 
    It's 433 time. 



    Let's get that xG and key chances created up! 
    Jones doesn't like changing his system but that would be an interesting team to watch attacking.
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    CB1 said:
    Preston also now want Tom cannon on loan from Sheff U. This has to mean that we are the favourites for David Fofana. 
    If we actually are in for him
    O'Rourke is usually fairly reliable though isnt he... Unless he's doing Agents a favour.

    He's not Cawley levels, but he's not as a shit as Nixon
    I tend to add an extra 10-15% bit of doubt to non Cawley journos during deadline day!
    The difference between Cawley and someone like O'Rourke is that it matters to Cawley that he reports based on facts. O'Rourke will be perfectly happy with a bit of bullshit on social media (it has 165,000 views on Twitter right now🥵)
  • Scoham said:
    And prefer Ward to Bree. Have no clue on either player though.
    Why would you prefer Ward then?
    To be fair, 'I don't know what I'm talking about but here's my opinion anyway' could be Charlton Life's motto
    Well it beats "my Saints supporting mate says...."  or "my best mate is mates with a Stoke ST holder and he says...."
  • Got to get our xG up, this is the way. Our xGA is great so let's sacrifice a bit of that and hover around 13th for that instead, should put the xG up a few places which should = mid-table finish. 


    If we did go 4-3-3 then I think Jones and one of Burke/Gillesphey would have to be the centre backs with Ramsay/Bree right back. And then I’d probably say Leaburn or Godden as the best options for lone striker 
  • I don’t think Bree has featured for Southampton at all this season. He wasn't named on the bench for the League Cup games either by the looks of it.
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  • Isn’t Bree more a Ramsay position than a Apter position?
  • mendonca said:
    I don’t think Bree has featured for Southampton at all this season. He wasn't named on the bench for the League Cup games either by the looks of it.
    He picked up an injury in pre-season, should be back fit this month  
  • NabySarr said:
    Got to get our xG up, this is the way. Our xGA is great so let's sacrifice a bit of that and hover around 13th for that instead, should put the xG up a few places which should = mid-table finish. 


    If we did go 4-3-3 then I think Jones and one of Burke/Gillesphey would have to be the centre backs with Ramsay/Bree right back. And then I’d probably say Leaburn or Godden as the best options for lone striker 
    Jokes aside I don't know what we are gonna do in the long run. 

    As much as I think we look good defensively, we are void of ideas at times. I know TC and Apter create chances on paper but it doesn't look that way in the flesh, they're easily defended chances mostly.

    I don't know where that leaves Apter if Bree comes in, same as if Fukuda did. 

    I honestly don't think Jones knows his best XI and we won't know until around Christmas.

    Personally think we don't suit the 532 at this level. In League 1 it worked as we got punished less often and the defenders were worse, we don't have wing backs who can put in killer crosses/chances and defend the whole game. Early doors though, but that's my gut feeling so far.
  • Isn’t Bree more a Ramsay position than a Apter position?
    No, he's predominantly a full back but has also played in midfield too - he's the defensive alternative to Apter if we need to change shape or shore things up.

    He has apparently played at CB to be fair but I'm sure he's being targeted for WB cover more than anything.
  • NabySarr said:
    Got to get our xG up, this is the way. Our xGA is great so let's sacrifice a bit of that and hover around 13th for that instead, should put the xG up a few places which should = mid-table finish. 


    If we did go 4-3-3 then I think Jones and one of Burke/Gillesphey would have to be the centre backs with Ramsay/Bree right back. And then I’d probably say Leaburn or Godden as the best options for lone striker 
    Jokes aside I don't know what we are gonna do in the long run. 

    As much as I think we look good defensively, we are void of ideas at times. I know TC and Apter create chances on paper but it doesn't look that way in the flesh, they're easily defended chances mostly.

    I don't know where that leaves Apter if Bree comes in, same as if Fukuda did. 

    I honestly don't think Jones knows his best XI and we won't know until around Christmas.

    Personally think we don't suit the 532 at this level. In League 1 it worked as we got punished less often and the defenders were worse, we don't have wing backs who can put in killer crosses/chances and defend the whole game. Early doors though, but that's my gut feeling so far.
    Think failing to put in killer crosses and failing to defend the whole game applies to every single formation you play. Also don’t play a traditional 532 in possession TC and Apter are practically wingers the way they get high and wide. I don’t get the urge to scrap everything that made us good last year being defensively solid and chucking that out the window. Millwall nearly got playoffs scoring less goals than a relegated Plymouth last season 
  • fenaddick said:
    CB1 said:
    Preston also now want Tom cannon on loan from Sheff U. This has to mean that we are the favourites for David Fofana. 
    If we actually are in for him
    O'Rourke is usually fairly reliable though isnt he... Unless he's doing Agents a favour.

    He's not Cawley levels, but he's not as a shit as Nixon
    I find O’Rourke can be a little hit or miss. Didn’t he say Sonny Carey was headed to Derby the day before we signed him?

    still hope he’s got Fofana right as he looks exciting. 
  • NabySarr said:
    Got to get our xG up, this is the way. Our xGA is great so let's sacrifice a bit of that and hover around 13th for that instead, should put the xG up a few places which should = mid-table finish. 


    If we did go 4-3-3 then I think Jones and one of Burke/Gillesphey would have to be the centre backs with Ramsay/Bree right back. And then I’d probably say Leaburn or Godden as the best options for lone striker 
    Jokes aside I don't know what we are gonna do in the long run. 

    As much as I think we look good defensively, we are void of ideas at times. I know TC and Apter create chances on paper but it doesn't look that way in the flesh, they're easily defended chances mostly.

    I don't know where that leaves Apter if Bree comes in, same as if Fukuda did. 

    I honestly don't think Jones knows his best XI and we won't know until around Christmas.

    Personally think we don't suit the 532 at this level. In League 1 it worked as we got punished less often and the defenders were worse, we don't have wing backs who can put in killer crosses/chances and defend the whole game. Early doors though, but that's my gut feeling so far.


    I still think the 3-5-2 is the way to go, 3 at the back suits the squad because it’s what we’ve recruited for. I’d like to see Knibbs for Docherty in the games we think we can be more adventurous, and then maybe a switch to 3-4-2-1 for the more defensive games with Bree coming in and Apter moving forward. 

    I know it’s boring, but we just aren’t going to be a team that creates lots of chances. We will do what we are good at, being solid and nicking wins from low margin games. It’s not pretty but it will keep us up. We’ve only played 4 games but I think if we extrapolated those performance levels over the whole season then we will stay up 
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