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  • Application gone in for a micropub at Danson parade, by the petrol station in Blendon. Fair catchment area there with only the Blackbirds in walking distance 
  • I thought the whole thing was a bit odd - the idea that a pub at that end of Woolwich was somehow silly, because not all the housing had been built. A decent pub is a decent pub, and will normally draw in the punters. If a pub operating company thinks it can make it work, why is it a silly idea. 
  • Probably because The Rose pub is only a few doors down and that is struggling.
  • I have always liked the Elephant & Castle in the market.
  • Probably because The Rose pub is only a few doors down and that is struggling.
    I think the castle is still open also.
  • Probably because The Rose pub is only a few doors down and that is struggling.
    I think the castle is still open also.
    Yes it is, so both within 2 minutes walk and not forgetting the Spoons within 10 mins, Earl of Chatham, Elephant & Castle etc.
  • A decent crawl......in daylight.
  • Sweet mother of Jesus.. the Elephant can never ever be part of any decent pub crawl! 

    Or maybe i shouldn’t judge a book by its cover… I don’t plan to find out. 
  • Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
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  • I have always liked the Elephant & Castle in the market.
    An absolute hole of a place. Great pub.
  • Met in there a few times over last couple of years. 
  • R0TW said:
    I have always liked the Elephant & Castle in the market.
    Always handy for a few before driving the train to work in the morning.

  • I have always liked the Elephant & Castle in the market.
    When I was a real toe rag and was in my nasty piece of work teenage years I worked on a stall on the high pavement the Elephant and Castle was my pub. 
    Got my first proper good hiding after over stepping the mark in the Elephant.
  • clive said:
    Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
    Needs to be knocked down Clive. Sounds like one scary place! I mean the location would give you that impression from the start. Tho I do enjoy reading reviews. 
  • Curb_It said:
    clive said:
    Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
    Needs to be knocked down Clive. Sounds like one scary place! I mean the location would give you that impression from the start. Tho I do enjoy reading reviews. 
    If this was a normal pub/club it would have been shut down years ago, but it seems places like this can get away with anything, it is in the most unlikely & unwelcoming location for a club/pub you could imagine.
  • edited August 15
    R0TW said:
    I have always liked the Elephant & Castle in the market.
    Always handy for a few before catching the train to work in the morning.
    I walked past on my way to work last week and a blokes is sat outside in his suit necking a pint while chatting to his mate who was stood the other side of the barrier.  Like it was the most normal thing to do to stop for a swifty on the way in. 

    But then I thought to myself he could have been on his way home from work too after a nightshift and that is perfectly acceptable... so I'll be less judgy for now.  

    It's still a bit of a hole. 

  • I have always liked the Elephant & Castle in the market.
    When I was a real toe rag and was in my nasty piece of work teenage years I worked on a stall on the high pavement the Elephant and Castle was my pub. 
    Got my first proper good hiding after over stepping the mark in the Elephant.

    You were very unlucky to meet the wrong sort in there B)
  • Curb_It said:
    clive said:
    Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
    Needs to be knocked down Clive. Sounds like one scary place! I mean the location would give you that impression from the start. Tho I do enjoy reading reviews. 

    Have just googled it and now realise why I never knew that it existed.
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  • Curb_It said:
    clive said:
    Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
    Needs to be knocked down Clive. Sounds like one scary place! I mean the location would give you that impression from the start. Tho I do enjoy reading reviews. 

    Have just googled it and now realise why I never knew that it existed.
    You have to like shisha, bars by the look.
  • msomerton said:
    Curb_It said:
    clive said:
    Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
    Needs to be knocked down Clive. Sounds like one scary place! I mean the location would give you that impression from the start. Tho I do enjoy reading reviews. 

    Have just googled it and now realise why I never knew that it existed.
    You have to like shisha, bars by the look.

    I'm very much an Elephant and Castle man ;)
  • clive said:
    Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
    "......allegations a woman had been throttled by a doorman while another incident saw a woman bitten on the breast and left with bruising to her head." - Jesus Christ
  • Probably because The Rose pub is only a few doors down and that is struggling.
    Is it?  They’ve been doing a lot to attract people in with various theme nights. Usually a decent crowd at weekends and a good few Charlton on match days.  Not easy for any pubs these days, especially if they don’t/can’t offer food. 
  • TelMc32 said:
    Probably because The Rose pub is only a few doors down and that is struggling.
    Is it?  They’ve been doing a lot to attract people in with various theme nights. Usually a decent crowd at weekends and a good few Charlton on match days.  Not easy for any pubs these days, especially if they don’t/can’t offer food. 
    Need to job on my townie to open early for 12:30 ko games.
  • edited August 21
    TelMc32 said:
    Probably because The Rose pub is only a few doors down and that is struggling.
    Is it?  They’ve been doing a lot to attract people in with various theme nights. Usually a decent crowd at weekends and a good few Charlton on match days.  Not easy for any pubs these days, especially if they don’t/can’t offer food. 
    I used to go in there at lunch times about 4 years ago.
    About half a dozen in there, whilst the Spoons had maybe 100.
  • TelMc32 said:
    Probably because The Rose pub is only a few doors down and that is struggling.
    Is it?  They’ve been doing a lot to attract people in with various theme nights. Usually a decent crowd at weekends and a good few Charlton on match days.  Not easy for any pubs these days, especially if they don’t/can’t offer food. 
    I used to go in there at lunch times about 5 years ago.
    About half a dozen in there, whilst the Spoons had maybe 100+.
    The landlady from The Bull Tavern took it on a couple of years ago when Greenwich Council forced them out of The Bull with a CPO.  She’s worked hard to breathe a bit of life back into it. 
  • Gribbo said:
    clive said:
    Curb_It said:
    How the hell does it remain open?

    * Another incident saw one woman bitten on the breast and bruising to her head.

    * Then on 2nd July there was an assault by a doorman. A woman was throttled.

    * Met PC Mark Evans also stated the site was a base of gangs and that police intelligence stated they were bringing firearms on site. It had been stated in a report that the business had not supplied CCTV to police or met with them when requested.


    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2025/08/14/greenwich-council-could-close-charltons-hayatt-lounge-after-incidents/
    "......allegations a woman had been throttled by a doorman while another incident saw a woman bitten on the breast and left with bruising to her head." - Jesus Christ
    Foreplay
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