Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

Vfrf said:

Garrymanilow said:

Vfrf said:

Interesting we've picked Jamaica as our feeder nation, very few top-end footballing athletes have emerged from there. 

There are a lot of players of Jamaican descent who have been part of the England team for a long while now. Some of them like Raheem Sterling or John Barnes were born in Jamaica and some have Jamaican parents, like Morgan Gibbs-White, Kyle Walker and Sol Campbell. Typically those players have been the beneficiaries of a higher standard of training in England from a young age. Sterling almost certainly wouldn't have developed anywhere near as much as he did if he hadn't been in an English academy from the age of 10. I imagine part of our strategy with this is identifying potential that we can get for cheap on the basis that with a higher standard of coaching these players can be developed into better players and then utilised in the first team and sold on for a substantial profit. We're already competing with so many other clubs on our own patch and getting players poached by Category 1 teams out of our academy before they even reach the age to make any first team squad appearances, picking up these players for a small investment on proper contracts is a fairly low-risk strategy. You only need one of these players to develop into a Football League level player to benefit.     

Fair retort and I don't care enough to carry out the due diligence on all of their backgrounds but I would like to know how many of them have come through the Jamaican footballing system and not benefitted from the English setup from an early age. Sterling for example grew up as a child in England.
Also I'm not saying all Jamaican footballers aren't good or worth looking at, if there's individuals with talent then absolutely but it's the only pond we seem to be fishing in overseas and en masse, they hardly produce the same level of talent as South America for example. If we were looking for an overseas link I'd assume that would be a more regular stream of talent.

sam3110 said:

New signing! Looks a bit old though, heard he's pretty versatile 

SouthLincsAddick said:

Swisdom said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Jamaica’s prowess in broader athletic terms is quite astonishing. As far as football is concerned it’s probably a bit of an undiscovered goldmine in terms of Jamaican football league talent. Great forward thinking by the club for exploring the potential.

I had a chat with Charlie about this last season.  Just before we signed up with Mount Pleasant.  

It’s fascinating really.  When the slave trade all started apparently Jamaica got first refusal on the African slaves so they obviously chose the fittest and strongest.  Since then they have just maintained a gene pool of excellent physical specimens and this leads to the thought process they Jamaica is a potential goldmine.
he had some statics but I can’t recall them.  But it was quite an enlightening and interesting chat really and hopefully explains our current tie-in with all things Jamaican

If that’s the level of cod science Charlie was spouting as fact it’s no wonder he’s been a disaster at every job he’s had. If there was ever such an advantage I’m sure the horrendous conditions slaves had to suffer would’ve made any advantage negligible. In fact the high rate of cardiovascular disease in Jamaica has been traced back to low birth weights during slavery. Scary that such frightening opinions can come from such an expensively educated person and yet Eton seems to churn them out.

eaststandmike said:

He’s pale for a Jamaican and did he go to a grammar school 

MrBurns said:

I'd like to see him on the bench on Saturday. 

danwhicks said:

MrBurns said:

I'd like to see him on the bench on Saturday. 

Hypothetical question, Ahadme is on the bench for us and through a complex and baffling series of events - he comes on at 1-1 in the 91st minute and scores to hand us 3 sweet points

The next day, Bolton make an offer for him . . . 

CAFC_boi said:

Me: My wife enjoyed a lovely holiday to Kingston recently. 

Friend: Jamaica? 

Me: No, she wanted to go! 

balham red said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

Swisdom said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Jamaica’s prowess in broader athletic terms is quite astonishing. As far as football is concerned it’s probably a bit of an undiscovered goldmine in terms of Jamaican football league talent. Great forward thinking by the club for exploring the potential.

I had a chat with Charlie about this last season.  Just before we signed up with Mount Pleasant.  

It’s fascinating really.  When the slave trade all started apparently Jamaica got first refusal on the African slaves so they obviously chose the fittest and strongest.  Since then they have just maintained a gene pool of excellent physical specimens and this leads to the thought process they Jamaica is a potential goldmine.
he had some statics but I can’t recall them.  But it was quite an enlightening and interesting chat really and hopefully explains our current tie-in with all things Jamaican

If that’s the level of cod science Charlie was spouting as fact it’s no wonder he’s been a disaster at every job he’s had. If there was ever such an advantage I’m sure the horrendous conditions slaves had to suffer would’ve made any advantage negligible. In fact the high rate of cardiovascular disease in Jamaica has been traced back to low birth weights during slavery. Scary that such frightening opinions can come from such an expensively educated person and yet Eton seems to churn them out.

So you dont think that Jamaica has genetically better athletes than other countries? It must just be the training facilities that are 30x better than other countries?

CAFC_boi said:

Me: My wife enjoyed a lovely holiday to Kingston recently. 

Friend: Jamaica? 

Me: No, she wanted to go!