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General Things That Annoy You thread - part 2

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  • Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.
  • edited August 2
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
  • That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
  • That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
  • What has happened to Corn Beef, they have changed the recipe, Taste like cardboard with a pinch of salt.
    Bloody expensive now too. Used to be dead cheap.

  • Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.

    Nah we just get ripped off in Blighty
  • That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Pretty sure it’s the latter. 

    Seem to remember we found a builder that way ie after plans submitted. 
  • edited August 3
    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Letters started arriving more than a week before we appeared on the planning application list. In fact just checked and we still haven't appeared on there.

    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
    Don't disagree. But that's not what's happening here. The letters are using my full details and claiming to be "from" us and stating that we have already engaged their services and so our neighbours just need to send them a few details. Then if they do they treat that as services engaged and we end up with a bill.
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  • That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Letters started arriving more than a week before we appeared on the planning application list. In fact just checked and we still haven't appeared on there.

    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
    Don't disagree. But that's not what's happening here. The letters are using my full details and claiming to be "from" us and stating that we have already engaged their services and so our neighbours just need to send them a few details. Then if they do they treat that as services engaged and we end up with a bill.
    Sounds like scam builders / related businesses who need to be reported. 

    I’m sure the council can’t sell your details as it’s public domain stuff on a planning application in the sense of making it known to interested parties. But copyright for the plan drawings etc. 

    Maybe applications can be seen in person a bit before going online? 

    Or has your architect passed on details?
  • edited August 3
    Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.
    I get what you're saying, but that's kind of the problem, isn't it?

    Because of our economic status, history and psychographics, we end up paying more. I work in this area. Markets are segmented by tolerance, sensitivity to value and willingness to pay.

    UK consumers are simply less resistant to small incremental price hikes and shrinkflation. That's why the same product can get re-packaged at half the size, and sold for more than twice the cost.

    Others markets are just more sensitive to price, size and value. 

    Look at energy: UK firms are paid 60% more per kWh than any other European nation. We pay 300% more than the US. Is anyone happy with that? What is the justification? Where are the France-style riots in the streets?

    We shouldn't be willing to shrug and rationalise these prices. If you believe they're fair, that's a big part of the problem. 
  • edited August 4
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    Rip-off Britain. 

    Going abroad and seeing things like a jumbo-sized can of Gillette shaving cream for half the price of a much smaller can that we're sold in the UK. 
    By chance, is that in a country with a different economic status? Perhaps one with differences in taxation, social welfare, and wage levels. One that is more dependant on tourism maybe? Could there be different supply chain methods and cost of sale etc. etc.

    If you are in Scotland or the Isle of Wight, then I’d be annoyed as well.

    If you are in the USA or Scandinavia, it might be worth going onto the “general things that please you” thread and commenting on how lucky you are to live in this country, rather than being ripped off over there.
    I get what you're saying, but that's kind of the problem, isn't it?

    Because of our economic status, history and psychographics, we end up paying more. I work in this area. Markets are segmented by tolerance, sensitivity to value and willingness to pay.

    UK consumers are simply less resistant to small incremental price hikes and shrinkflation. That's why the same product can get re-packaged at half the size, and sold for more than twice the cost.

    Others markets are just more sensitive to price, size and value. 

    Look at energy: UK firms are paid 60% more per kWh than any other European nation. We pay 300% more than the US. Is anyone happy with that? What is the justification? Where are the France-style riots in the streets?

    We shouldn't be willing to shrug and rationalise these prices. If you believe they're fair, that's a big part of the problem. 
    I also worked (past tense) in this area, selling the same brand in multiple European countries. The vast bulk of the price differentiation between market pricing was down to local taxation, cost of manufacturing (COGS) and distribution.

    Net margin between countries was broadly aligned but retail price points were considerably different.

    Broadly speaking, price points were lower in southern and Eastern Europe, and higher in Northern Europe and UK. 


  • The air gap in Mr Kipling's so called exceedingly good Bramley Apple Pies.  



    Until the day when Mr Kipling decides to fill with fruit they will remain decidedly average!
  • The air gap in Mr Kipling's so called exceedingly good Bramley Apple Pies.  



    Until the day when Mr Kipling decides to fill with fruit they will remain decidedly average!
    They probably have more filling outside of the UK.
  • That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Bexleyheath council are the same, however not sure if the council pass the info on, or these companies just check the planning application lists.
    Letters started arriving more than a week before we appeared on the planning application list. In fact just checked and we still haven't appeared on there.

    That when you submit a planning application with Greenwich Council they sell your details on to a bunch of third parties such as party wall surveyors etc. Who then send letters to your neighbours pretending we have employed them for their services. And if your neighbours engage with them you are on the hook for whatever they bill you. 

    And that's all legal! How?!! 

    Luckily managed to bat it away (hopefully) and the neighbours know not to engage but that's a joke. 
    Party wall issues are important and its right people should know they have e rhe choice to ise someone other than the surveyor of the person doing the work. But agree it can be a license to print money at your expense
    Don't disagree. But that's not what's happening here. The letters are using my full details and claiming to be "from" us and stating that we have already engaged their services and so our neighbours just need to send them a few details. Then if they do they treat that as services engaged and we end up with a bill.
    Sounds like scam builders / related businesses who need to be reported. 

    I’m sure the council can’t sell your details as it’s public domain stuff on a planning application in the sense of making it known to interested parties. But copyright for the plan drawings etc. 

    Maybe applications can be seen in person a bit before going online? 

    Or has your architect passed on details?
    When I worked in a Truck garage, part of my duties was to read once a week 
    Applications and Decisions @.gov.uk SOUTH EAST , for Operator Licence applications and then pass the details to our sales team, service teams, to send out all the usual old gufff as to how great 
    DAF trucks were. 
  • The air gap in Mr Kipling's so called exceedingly good Bramley Apple Pies.  



    Until the day when Mr Kipling decides to fill with fruit they will remain decidedly average!
    They probably have more filling outside of the UK.
    bloody foreigners paddle over here and nick all our fillings.
  • edited August 4
    Multi-billion-pound firms profiting from obvious design flaws in their products.
    In this case, for example, the post-2016 Ford Transit Custom wet belt issue. It's bad enough that Ford chose to submerge a rubber belt in oil, but the cost and frequency of replacement they're now recommending is outrageous — borderline criminal.
  • Gribbo said:
    Multi-billion-pound firms profiting from obvious design flaws in their products.
    In this case, for example, the post-2016 Ford Transit Custom wet belt issue. It's bad enough that Ford chose to submerge a rubber belt in oil, but the cost and frequency of replacement they're now recommending is outrageous — borderline criminal.
    The government's relentless pursuit for low emissions has made cars less reliable. Wet belts, EGR valves, DPFs, turbochargers, swirl flaps are some of the more obvious issues.

    The days of a 2.0 chain driven petrol engine doing 300,000 miles with oil changes are over.
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