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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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So if, as I understand it, Luton are getting £40m as a second year parachute payment, why are they having a fire sale?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The tv money in 9m more in the Championship compared to league one.jose said:I doubt very much if our spending is coming from general income or player sales.
That signals to me we are either stacking up debt, or are being bankrolled by philanthropic rich people,
Personally given our history I always feel unsettled by the club being financially vulnerable, and a lot of the money side of things we’re invited to take on trust.
That is another reason I am a big fan of developing our own players, it is cheaper and can often pay off with transfer fees incoming.
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If he's been playing in his natural position all this time, then I'd be even more disappointed.NabySarr said:
Having a quick look at Hull and I don’t think that’s right. They had Ritchie Smallwood as holding mid and then Docherty next to him more box to box.Chunes said:
I think that's where Doch played for Hull in the champ. NJ brought him in to play further forward and questions still remain about how effective he is in that new role.NabySarr said:
I’m still a bit concerned about cover for Coventry, can JRC play that holding role? I wouldn’t trust Docherty there in the championship where in league 1 he could have maybe done a job covering itRC_CAFC said:So if we assume Apter is coming.What are we saying would make a perfect window for incomings?One more Attacking midfielder and a striker?When Docherty first played for us he was in the 10, which was the reference of playing further forward but I think NJ realised it didn’t work and moved him back to his natural position
But after the Bolton game at home, Nathan Jones said: "I’ve got people inside the club who don’t think he can't play as an eight – it’s lucky I make my own decisions!" So presumably that's where he was playing.0 -
Forgot about Vetokele, was about to guess Luke Varney!MarcusH26 said:
Igor was around £2-2.5m if I recall . So over a decade ago since we've spent £2m on a player.AberystwythAddick said:Does anyone know the last time we spent that sort of money on a player?
also at this stage important to not put to much pressure on the lad.0 -
Because they have a new stadium to pay for with the parachute moneygringo said:
So if, as I understand it, Luton are getting £40m as a second year parachute payment, why are they having a fire sale?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The tv money in 9m more in the Championship compared to league one.jose said:I doubt very much if our spending is coming from general income or player sales.
That signals to me we are either stacking up debt, or are being bankrolled by philanthropic rich people,
Personally given our history I always feel unsettled by the club being financially vulnerable, and a lot of the money side of things we’re invited to take on trust.
That is another reason I am a big fan of developing our own players, it is cheaper and can often pay off with transfer fees incoming.
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Players not happy and wanting Championship football?gringo said:
So if, as I understand it, Luton are getting £40m as a second year parachute payment, why are they having a fire sale?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The tv money in 9m more in the Championship compared to league one.jose said:I doubt very much if our spending is coming from general income or player sales.
That signals to me we are either stacking up debt, or are being bankrolled by philanthropic rich people,
Personally given our history I always feel unsettled by the club being financially vulnerable, and a lot of the money side of things we’re invited to take on trust.
That is another reason I am a big fan of developing our own players, it is cheaper and can often pay off with transfer fees incoming.
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Having a look at his heatmap for the 23/24 season he's much more a holding midfielder compared to his heatmap for is in 24/25NabySarr said:
Having a quick look at Hull and I don’t think that’s right. They had Ritchie Smallwood as holding mid and then Docherty next to him more box to box.Chunes said:
I think that's where Doch played for Hull in the champ. NJ brought him in to play further forward and questions still remain about how effective he is in that new role.NabySarr said:
I’m still a bit concerned about cover for Coventry, can JRC play that holding role? I wouldn’t trust Docherty there in the championship where in league 1 he could have maybe done a job covering itRC_CAFC said:So if we assume Apter is coming.What are we saying would make a perfect window for incomings?One more Attacking midfielder and a striker?When Docherty first played for us he was in the 10, which was the reference of playing further forward but I think NJ realised it didn’t work and moved him back to his natural position
This is 23/24
This is 24/25
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Isn’t it nice to read stuff like this
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Going back to Apter I just watched his goals from his time at Tranmere.
He's really got the potential to be one of those who gets you off your seat. As direct and JBG - he gets the ball and his instinct is to bear down on goal.
And I love that he appears to be a bit of a cocky little shit too - not afraid to give it to the opposition fans. I have the equivalent of a Fanny Tingle I think38 -
Yeah essentially they've banked the PL TV money and the parachute payments to fund the stadium.fenaddick said:
Because they have a new stadium to pay for with the parachute moneygringo said:
So if, as I understand it, Luton are getting £40m as a second year parachute payment, why are they having a fire sale?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The tv money in 9m more in the Championship compared to league one.jose said:I doubt very much if our spending is coming from general income or player sales.
That signals to me we are either stacking up debt, or are being bankrolled by philanthropic rich people,
Personally given our history I always feel unsettled by the club being financially vulnerable, and a lot of the money side of things we’re invited to take on trust.
That is another reason I am a big fan of developing our own players, it is cheaper and can often pay off with transfer fees incoming.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy8qzn94ye7o
Would expect they're wanting to sell Doughty and Mark McGuiness for substantial fees to fund signings.0 -
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Swisdom said:Going back to Apter I just watched his goals from his time at Tranmere.
He's really got the potential to be one of those who gets you off your seat. As direct and JBG - he gets the ball and his instinct is to bear down on goal.
And I love that he appears to be a bit of a cocky little shit too - not afraid to give it to the opposition fans. I have the equivalent of a Fanny Tingle I think
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Enslin is very versatile but Chris Lock thinks LWB will be his best position10
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Don’t forget you can have 9 on the subs bench in the Championship.9
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Love on the Blackpool vs Shrewsbury highlight that Albie got turned around twice for the Shrews goal. Just like old times1
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Other sides cheat and waste time, Charlton manage the game effectivelySheedyCAFC said:Looking forward to the goals & assists he’ll bring to us as well as the time-wasting & cheating25 -
Think you are right on this we seem to have strengthened our squad in key areas for relatively small fees and now it's the final touches.To not show our hand spending wise has worked in our favour and now the bigger fees will always be that. Tbh apter at around 2 million seems the going rate but the likes of dkd or players of his ilk will always be costlier anyway.Valley11 said:As others have said, I wonder if the relatively low level spending was done first to smoke and mirror that we’ve got a bit of cash - and now the next/final two or three will be where the big money is spent?1 -
Seems to be no doubt about his potential as a goalscorer, but hopefully he can add some creativity too with his passing and crossing too.Swisdom said:Going back to Apter I just watched his goals from his time at Tranmere.
He's really got the potential to be one of those who gets you off your seat. As direct and JBG - he gets the ball and his instinct is to bear down on goal.
And I love that he appears to be a bit of a cocky little shit too - not afraid to give it to the opposition fans. I have the equivalent of a Fanny Tingle I think
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As well as the cost of buying out contracts, there is also the cost of of the personnel terms between the player and the club. Put simply we are likely not offering the wages that other clubs were willing to offer Gsibolloxbolder said:For me if we've paid £2m or more for Apter than it would have been better spent on Galbraith, who to me looks like the real deal.
Maybe he just didn't want to come, but to me his credentials are far stronger than Apter's.
Still no stand out signing for meI worry where the goals will come from in this squad. No proven championship striker, given Godden's age.
I'm still excited that it will be championship football this season though, but I suspect we will be witnessing more grind out results football from us. Hopefully we can finish 21st.0 -
They have sensible owners who decided to bank most of the PL money and then the parachute money and put it towards their new stadium, which i think i saw is costing over 400m.gringo said:
So if, as I understand it, Luton are getting £40m as a second year parachute payment, why are they having a fire sale?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
The tv money in 9m more in the Championship compared to league one.jose said:I doubt very much if our spending is coming from general income or player sales.
That signals to me we are either stacking up debt, or are being bankrolled by philanthropic rich people,
Personally given our history I always feel unsettled by the club being financially vulnerable, and a lot of the money side of things we’re invited to take on trust.
That is another reason I am a big fan of developing our own players, it is cheaper and can often pay off with transfer fees incoming.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy8qzn94ye7o
I'd also imagine that a lot of their squad who they still have from the PL season, don't want to 'slum it' back in league one, hence they're on their way.0 -
He will fit right in with TC & Leaburn then, those two love giving grief to oppo fans 😂Swisdom said:Going back to Apter I just watched his goals from his time at Tranmere.
He's really got the potential to be one of those who gets you off your seat. As direct and JBG - he gets the ball and his instinct is to bear down on goal.
And I love that he appears to be a bit of a cocky little shit too - not afraid to give it to the opposition fans. I have the equivalent of a Fanny Tingle I think0 -
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I am kind of surprised we haven’t had any outgoings yet. I would have thought some of the players would have had loans lined up by now.2
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Build the squad you want and then let people leave seems the sensible approach.Bostonaddick said:I am kind of surprised we haven’t had any outgoings yet. I would have thought some of the players would have had loans lined up by now.
Some players may already have loans lined up.12 -
Exactly how I would describe him. Gets you off your seat. I’m interested to see how the NTT20 boys react to this one.Swisdom said:Going back to Apter I just watched his goals from his time at Tranmere.
He's really got the potential to be one of those who gets you off your seat. As direct and JBG - he gets the ball and his instinct is to bear down on goal.
And I love that he appears to be a bit of a cocky little shit too - not afraid to give it to the opposition fans. I have the equivalent of a Fanny Tingle I thinkI can confirm he is now out of EFL fantasy draft team for GW1.1 -
I am not looking forward to this for some reason, smacks of American football and offers more time for time wastingCallumcafc said:Don’t forget you can have 9 on the subs bench in the Championship.8 -
Callumcafc said:Going to bang the xG drum so skip me if you don’t care for it.
Over the last two seasons he has massively outperformed his xG both times. This indicates towards a player who, when he gets into a scoring position, tends to find the back of the net more often than other players.
Finding a player like that is obviously good for any team but you’d think would be critical for a side expected to finish in the bottom half of the table and need to make the most out of limited attacking options against high quality opposition.
Wish I could bookmark my own posts but I would not be at all shocked to see a few 0-1 or 1-1 scores next season where R. Apter is our only goalscorer.
24/25: 8 goals from 4.83 xG in League One (69 shots total)
23/24: 12 goals from 6.57 xG in League Two (103 shots total)Per Cawley’s Substack he also greatly underperformed his expected assists too (3 assists from 6.02 xA) so shows he can create a fair few chances too2 -
How? You get exactly the same amount of allowed substitutions as in L1, you just have more choiceeaststandmike said:
I am not looking forward to this for some reason, smacks of American football and offers more time for time wastingCallumcafc said:Don’t forget you can have 9 on the subs bench in the Championship.5 -
Didn't have the sniffer dog to get on the end of his crossesHamSollins said:Callumcafc said:Going to bang the xG drum so skip me if you don’t care for it.
Over the last two seasons he has massively outperformed his xG both times. This indicates towards a player who, when he gets into a scoring position, tends to find the back of the net more often than other players.
Finding a player like that is obviously good for any team but you’d think would be critical for a side expected to finish in the bottom half of the table and need to make the most out of limited attacking options against high quality opposition.
Wish I could bookmark my own posts but I would not be at all shocked to see a few 0-1 or 1-1 scores next season where R. Apter is our only goalscorer.
24/25: 8 goals from 4.83 xG in League One (69 shots total)
23/24: 12 goals from 6.57 xG in League Two (103 shots total)Per Cawley’s Substack he also greatly underperformed his expected assists too (3 assists from 6.02 xA) so shows he can create a fair few chances too0 -
Can we have the NJ and Raptor photo up please? It was outstanding and deserves to be seen again!1
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Nor the pace, which is even more important in the Championship than league 1.Chunes said:
Probably not in the traditional sense but Coventry isn't exactly spraying wonder balls around either. For the most part our DM plays simple passes.wmcf123 said:
Docherty doesn’t have the range of passing to play there .Chunes said:
I think that's where Doch played for Hull in the champ. NJ brought him in to play further forward and questions still remain about how effective he is in that new role.NabySarr said:
I’m still a bit concerned about cover for Coventry, can JRC play that holding role? I wouldn’t trust Docherty there in the championship where in league 1 he could have maybe done a job covering itRC_CAFC said:So if we assume Apter is coming.What are we saying would make a perfect window for incomings?One more Attacking midfielder and a striker?0 -
Oh, mate..... Pour yourself a drink and cheer yourself up 🙂swords_alive said:So far so good in terms of transfer business maybe,but can't help thinking Watford must be rubbing their hands at the prospect of playing us first game. Established club that they are up against Jones and some Luton misfits. They will bring all the heat of a Beds/ Herts derby and walk away with a 2-0 win at least i expect. Similar outcomes with home games against Leicester, Millwall, then Blackburn to look forward to. We will be dissecting all that's wrong until October quite possibly, when we might finally sneak a win.
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