Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

Dizzle said:

Ramsay has posted a pic on Instagram of him training with Jonathan Panzo. We were linked with him last year weren’t we? 

AberystwythAddick said:

The Red Robin said:

Todds_right_hook said:

The Red Robin said:

Chris Powell’s regret was being too loyal to the squad that got us promoted. I hope Jones is ruthless. 

But we finished 9th without major surgery

We did. Because he was a miracle worker. Then the cash got pulled out and the slide began. 

That’s nothing to do with being loyal to players then is it 

eastterrace6168 said:

Sambcafc said:

This thread should be renamed, ‘endless discussion of the same points’ 

This is standard for a rumours thread...🤷‍♂️

MarcusH26 said:

Dizzle said:

Ramsay has posted a pic on Instagram of him training with Jonathan Panzo. We were linked with him last year weren’t we? 

Yeah Panzos name was mentioned, spent last season on loan at Rio Ave in Portugal. Someone that's been around quite a while without ever really playing regular football anywhere. Lewisham lad too. 

thenewbie said:

MarcusH26 said:

Dizzle said:

Ramsay has posted a pic on Instagram of him training with Jonathan Panzo. We were linked with him last year weren’t we? 

Yeah Panzos name was mentioned, spent last season on loan at Rio Ave in Portugal. Someone that's been around quite a while without ever really playing regular football anywhere. Lewisham lad too. 

Does fit the general profile we seem to be favouring - mid 20s, potential to maybe find another level and improve further. So it's not impossible, but I suspect @arny23394 is probably right that he's just training with a friend.

I’m Garrymanilow said:

Kap10 said:

The Red Robin said:

Chris Powell’s regret was being too loyal to the squad that got us promoted. I hope Jones is ruthless. 

As much as we have our favourites, it's a ruthless business. You look at Parkie at Wrexham and he has had no qualms about losing fans favourites to benefit the team. Mullins* a case in point, dropped halfway through the season andnow on his way to Wigan on loan, with lots of platitudes about we would not be where we are without him,

There is no room for "Giving him a chance" "Repaying his loyalty" unfortunately  if a player is not good enough and we can afford to replace, then replace.

*Welcome To Wrexham cover Mullins  and Ollie Palmer being dropped and other players coming in. An interesting watch and coverage of the human side of being a pro.

All stuff that Jones has already done. Mullin wasn’t good enough for L1 and so he’s not going to be good enough for the Championship. Jones got rid of the L1 top scorer because he didn’t like how he fit in the team. He’s let Chuks and Tennai go despite their positive contributions to our promotion. He knows ruthless, I’ve no concerns any players will be kept out of sentimentality 

_MrDick said:

I’m Garrymanilow said:

Kap10 said:

The Red Robin said:

Chris Powell’s regret was being too loyal to the squad that got us promoted. I hope Jones is ruthless. 

As much as we have our favourites, it's a ruthless business. You look at Parkie at Wrexham and he has had no qualms about losing fans favourites to benefit the team. Mullins* a case in point, dropped halfway through the season andnow on his way to Wigan on loan, with lots of platitudes about we would not be where we are without him,

There is no room for "Giving him a chance" "Repaying his loyalty" unfortunately  if a player is not good enough and we can afford to replace, then replace.

*Welcome To Wrexham cover Mullins  and Ollie Palmer being dropped and other players coming in. An interesting watch and coverage of the human side of being a pro.

All stuff that Jones has already done. Mullin wasn’t good enough for L1 and so he’s not going to be good enough for the Championship. Jones got rid of the L1 top scorer because he didn’t like how he fit in the team. He’s let Chuks and Tennai go despite their positive contributions to our promotion. He knows ruthless, I’ve no concerns any players will be kept out of sentimentality 

Apart from Danny Hylton 

Braziliance said:

Oggy Red said:

Braziliance said:

MarcusH26 said:

Comparing the current ownership to anything Matt Southall promised is absolutely wild. The current owners have put their money where their mouths are to appoint NJ, Will Abbot, Dane Murphy as high calibre appointments. Hardly think NJ is signing that big new contract if he's been told by the owners that he's shopping in Poundland for freebies, I doubt we'll have a top half budget and smash our transfer record but there will be a good budget there and then it's down to Chapple and NJ to get to work and do the hard sell to players on why sign for us. 

Not concerned at all this early in the window , the whole championship seems on a go slow signing wise. Probably not helped by the U21 Euros, CWC going on. 

Personally don't think it is that wild. It is just two different personalities/viewpoints. I am difficult to convince/a pessimist/ glass half empty type, then you have the opposite who are more open to giving people a chance. 

I will never forget how much respect Katrien had on here and Southall, I always thought they were worms. Not having a pop at anyone who did like those two, but I knew something was off immediately. Sometimes you believe what you want to believe. 

Lee Bowyer was a no nonsense credible character, just like Jones, yet he still believed what wasn't true.

I am not saying they're con men like Southall, far from it, I just don't and have never believed we will get the financial backing we might need. They have even said themselves we are a year ahead of where they expected us to be. How can a club who are a Championship side historically be above projections being in a League we historically belong in? Statements like that make me sceptical of the ambition. And the whole talk of being clever to avoid FFP utilising the academy which translates in my book to "don't expect us to spend much money".

It is very early doors and like I said, I would be delighted to be extremely wrong as I want to see Charlton do well more than my judgment be correct. I am just expecting a disappointing window.

I do get the impression you're overthinking things @Braziliance.

There's a lot of us very jaded and bitten down by nearly 20 years of underachievement, the Roland years, the scammers and charlatans, even Rock-on Tommy 🎸

But that's our history, it's passed - and our future still has to be written.

No guarantees.... but you know, so far the current owners haven't really done much wrong, and slowly but professionally, are putting down the foundations for a solid future.

They are not going to want to undermine that by lack of investment in player recruitment. Expect appropriate budget and sensible signings.... But we' are new boys to the division and we're not sitting on Prem League parachute payments.

But as NJ would say, we're on a journey.
Let's have some faith that the Club are in good hands and see where it takes us?

Agree for the most part. 

We got promoted, I am happy, looking forward to the fixtures tomorrow, looking forward to a full championship season as last time it was hindered by covid and I was going through some life changes that stopped me going footie.

I am just expecting an underwhelming window in terms of transfers. I don't expect us to replicate what Pompey and Oxford did, let's hope my instinct is wrong.

Oggy Red said:

Braziliance said:

Oggy Red said:

Braziliance said:

MarcusH26 said:

Comparing the current ownership to anything Matt Southall promised is absolutely wild. The current owners have put their money where their mouths are to appoint NJ, Will Abbot, Dane Murphy as high calibre appointments. Hardly think NJ is signing that big new contract if he's been told by the owners that he's shopping in Poundland for freebies, I doubt we'll have a top half budget and smash our transfer record but there will be a good budget there and then it's down to Chapple and NJ to get to work and do the hard sell to players on why sign for us. 

Not concerned at all this early in the window , the whole championship seems on a go slow signing wise. Probably not helped by the U21 Euros, CWC going on. 

Personally don't think it is that wild. It is just two different personalities/viewpoints. I am difficult to convince/a pessimist/ glass half empty type, then you have the opposite who are more open to giving people a chance. 

I will never forget how much respect Katrien had on here and Southall, I always thought they were worms. Not having a pop at anyone who did like those two, but I knew something was off immediately. Sometimes you believe what you want to believe. 

Lee Bowyer was a no nonsense credible character, just like Jones, yet he still believed what wasn't true.

I am not saying they're con men like Southall, far from it, I just don't and have never believed we will get the financial backing we might need. They have even said themselves we are a year ahead of where they expected us to be. How can a club who are a Championship side historically be above projections being in a League we historically belong in? Statements like that make me sceptical of the ambition. And the whole talk of being clever to avoid FFP utilising the academy which translates in my book to "don't expect us to spend much money".

It is very early doors and like I said, I would be delighted to be extremely wrong as I want to see Charlton do well more than my judgment be correct. I am just expecting a disappointing window.

I do get the impression you're overthinking things @Braziliance.

There's a lot of us very jaded and bitten down by nearly 20 years of underachievement, the Roland years, the scammers and charlatans, even Rock-on Tommy 🎸

But that's our history, it's passed - and our future still has to be written.

No guarantees.... but you know, so far the current owners haven't really done much wrong, and slowly but professionally, are putting down the foundations for a solid future.

They are not going to want to undermine that by lack of investment in player recruitment. Expect appropriate budget and sensible signings.... But we' are new boys to the division and we're not sitting on Prem League parachute payments.

But as NJ would say, we're on a journey.
Let's have some faith that the Club are in good hands and see where it takes us?

Agree for the most part. 

We got promoted, I am happy, looking forward to the fixtures tomorrow, looking forward to a full championship season as last time it was hindered by covid and I was going through some life changes that stopped me going footie.

I am just expecting an underwhelming window in terms of transfers. I don't expect us to replicate what Pompey and Oxford did, let's hope my instinct is wrong.

Yep, let's hope so! 😊

I'm not seeing the point of being pessimistic at this stage, might as well enjoy the anticipation (while we can!).

But I do believe we're finally in much better hands than we've been for many years - they've appointed proper experienced football people, who've already  planned and tasted some success.

Much of the angst of many on CL is based simply on they don't know what's happening behind the scenes.
But the management team know -  and the rest of us, we'll all find out in due course.

Exiled_Addick said:

It'd didn't work out for Macca when promoted with Plymouth, but he's also now a better player now than he was when he first joined us. If we set aside Plymouth didn't fancy him as a Championship level defender, what about his performances last season indicate he isn't ready to make the step up in level?

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

Oggy Red said:

Braziliance said:

MarcusH26 said:

Comparing the current ownership to anything Matt Southall promised is absolutely wild. The current owners have put their money where their mouths are to appoint NJ, Will Abbot, Dane Murphy as high calibre appointments. Hardly think NJ is signing that big new contract if he's been told by the owners that he's shopping in Poundland for freebies, I doubt we'll have a top half budget and smash our transfer record but there will be a good budget there and then it's down to Chapple and NJ to get to work and do the hard sell to players on why sign for us. 

Not concerned at all this early in the window , the whole championship seems on a go slow signing wise. Probably not helped by the U21 Euros, CWC going on. 

Personally don't think it is that wild. It is just two different personalities/viewpoints. I am difficult to convince/a pessimist/ glass half empty type, then you have the opposite who are more open to giving people a chance. 

I will never forget how much respect Katrien had on here and Southall, I always thought they were worms. Not having a pop at anyone who did like those two, but I knew something was off immediately. Sometimes you believe what you want to believe. 

Lee Bowyer was a no nonsense credible character, just like Jones, yet he still believed what wasn't true.

I am not saying they're con men like Southall, far from it, I just don't and have never believed we will get the financial backing we might need. They have even said themselves we are a year ahead of where they expected us to be. How can a club who are a Championship side historically be above projections being in a League we historically belong in? Statements like that make me sceptical of the ambition. And the whole talk of being clever to avoid FFP utilising the academy which translates in my book to "don't expect us to spend much money".

It is very early doors and like I said, I would be delighted to be extremely wrong as I want to see Charlton do well more than my judgment be correct. I am just expecting a disappointing window.

I do get the impression you're overthinking things @Braziliance.

There's a lot of us very jaded and bitten down by nearly 20 years of underachievement, the Roland years, the scammers and charlatans, even Rock-on Tommy 🎸

But that's our history, it's passed - and our future still has to be written.

No guarantees.... but you know, so far the current owners haven't really done much wrong, and slowly but professionally, are putting down the foundations for a solid future.

They are not going to want to undermine that by lack of investment in player recruitment. Expect appropriate budget and sensible signings.... But we' are new boys to the division and we're not sitting on Prem League parachute payments.

But as NJ would say, we're on a journey.
Let's have some faith that the Club are in good hands and see where it takes us?

Agree for the most part. 

We got promoted, I am happy, looking forward to the fixtures tomorrow, looking forward to a full championship season as last time it was hindered by covid and I was going through some life changes that stopped me going footie.

I am just expecting an underwhelming window in terms of transfers. I don't expect us to replicate what Pompey and Oxford did, let's hope my instinct is wrong.

Did you not spend most of last summer moaning that we weren’t spending the money needed to get promoted? Even though our business was underwhelming it worked out pretty well. I think it will be similar again, and we will be a bit under the radar, but ultimately we will be successful and stay up 

Jones signing a 5 year deal removed any slight doubts for me. He’s clearly very happy with what he’s going to have to work with 

Braziliance said:

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

Oggy Red said:

Braziliance said:

MarcusH26 said:

Comparing the current ownership to anything Matt Southall promised is absolutely wild. The current owners have put their money where their mouths are to appoint NJ, Will Abbot, Dane Murphy as high calibre appointments. Hardly think NJ is signing that big new contract if he's been told by the owners that he's shopping in Poundland for freebies, I doubt we'll have a top half budget and smash our transfer record but there will be a good budget there and then it's down to Chapple and NJ to get to work and do the hard sell to players on why sign for us. 

Not concerned at all this early in the window , the whole championship seems on a go slow signing wise. Probably not helped by the U21 Euros, CWC going on. 

Personally don't think it is that wild. It is just two different personalities/viewpoints. I am difficult to convince/a pessimist/ glass half empty type, then you have the opposite who are more open to giving people a chance. 

I will never forget how much respect Katrien had on here and Southall, I always thought they were worms. Not having a pop at anyone who did like those two, but I knew something was off immediately. Sometimes you believe what you want to believe. 

Lee Bowyer was a no nonsense credible character, just like Jones, yet he still believed what wasn't true.

I am not saying they're con men like Southall, far from it, I just don't and have never believed we will get the financial backing we might need. They have even said themselves we are a year ahead of where they expected us to be. How can a club who are a Championship side historically be above projections being in a League we historically belong in? Statements like that make me sceptical of the ambition. And the whole talk of being clever to avoid FFP utilising the academy which translates in my book to "don't expect us to spend much money".

It is very early doors and like I said, I would be delighted to be extremely wrong as I want to see Charlton do well more than my judgment be correct. I am just expecting a disappointing window.

I do get the impression you're overthinking things @Braziliance.

There's a lot of us very jaded and bitten down by nearly 20 years of underachievement, the Roland years, the scammers and charlatans, even Rock-on Tommy 🎸

But that's our history, it's passed - and our future still has to be written.

No guarantees.... but you know, so far the current owners haven't really done much wrong, and slowly but professionally, are putting down the foundations for a solid future.

They are not going to want to undermine that by lack of investment in player recruitment. Expect appropriate budget and sensible signings.... But we' are new boys to the division and we're not sitting on Prem League parachute payments.

But as NJ would say, we're on a journey.
Let's have some faith that the Club are in good hands and see where it takes us?

Agree for the most part. 

We got promoted, I am happy, looking forward to the fixtures tomorrow, looking forward to a full championship season as last time it was hindered by covid and I was going through some life changes that stopped me going footie.

I am just expecting an underwhelming window in terms of transfers. I don't expect us to replicate what Pompey and Oxford did, let's hope my instinct is wrong.

Did you not spend most of last summer moaning that we weren’t spending the money needed to get promoted? Even though our business was underwhelming it worked out pretty well. I think it will be similar again, and we will be a bit under the radar, but ultimately we will be successful and stay up 

Jones signing a 5 year deal removed any slight doubts for me. He’s clearly very happy with what he’s going to have to work with 

Not quite. I said we didn't spend enough to get autos, I thought we might struggle for promotion in general last season as the play-offs are typically a lottery, and we wasn't splashing the cash to compete for the autos slot. Wasn't exactly far off. 

I did also predict us to finish 4th (we did), I said we would win the play-offs if we made them because of Jones defensive playstyle being tailor made for the play-offs (we did). 

I of course got some things wrong, like many others do/did. Like Nathan Jones getting the sack after Crawley (which felt like the general consensus at the time), I said play-offs seemed well out of reach after Crawley (that was the majority view) but despite all that, I still said we would win the play-offs if we were to somehow make it, that post can be found multiple times. I also thought Alfie May going was a mistake as did many others. 

I even said it on a popular media page and that we could stay up with the right signings this coming season, mainly because of Jones.

My general outlook on Charlton is quite positive. Selective memory I would say there.