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Frames should never crack unless you've done something to cause the crack. My old S5 had 35,000 km on it before I wrote it off by shifting under load and sensing the rear mech into the chainstay. My new S5 has 18,000km on it with no issues.buckshee said:I’d heard one or two moans about them at the time regarding bottom bracket issues but not frames. Like I say this is the second frame now, annoying thing last time was my original frame was metallic blue and they replaced it with a white one.Other problem is the shop I bought it from shut down recently.I’m going to email Orro later and see where I stand.Just checked and I’ve done less then 1800 miles on it since the frame was last replaced, surely that’s a low about to have a frame crack no?
It's just shit layup, and it's failed when you've put a bit of stress through it somewhere.2 -
Yeah. Real fucking heavy and real fucking flexy 🤣ArmchairAddick said:
Steel is real babyAddickted4life said:
10 years in the cycling trade, my 2 pence is pretty much the same as @Leroy Ambrose above.buckshee said:I’d heard one or two moans about them at the time regarding bottom bracket issues but not frames. Like I say this is the second frame now, annoying thing last time was my original frame was metallic blue and they replaced it with a white one.Other problem is the shop I bought it from shut down recently.I’m going to email Orro later and see where I stand.Just checked and I’ve done less then 1800 miles on it since the frame was last replaced, surely that’s a low about to have a frame crack no?
You may be lucky and get a decent one but QC on Orro frames is known in the industry to be poor. Yes 1,800 miles is a very low amount of mileage to have a crack appear (unless there has been an impact of some kind but in this case that doesn't appear likely).
And apologises but to further add to your woes Orro was the inhouse brand of UK distributor I-Ride who went bust at the end of last year, they've officially been absorbed into an investment company (Baaj Capital LLP) but from what I've seen and heard its been impossible to get through to anyone connected with Orro (which isn't a surprise as I-ride sacked all their staff). I would not be surprised if the Orro website mysteriously and quietly disappears in the next few months.
That being said good luck @buckshee and I'd been interested to know if you get anywhere with it!
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Found a company online that repairs carbon frames, looked at some of their work and it looks really good so I filled in the form to get an estimate.£390!!! Looks like a new frame or bike’s the option now. Don’t really have the money for either so going to have to go for a cheap second hand metal in the meantime I guess if I want to keep riding.0
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That's cheap! Was it Target or Carbon Reincarnation by any chance?buckshee said:Found a company online that repairs carbon frames, looked at some of their work and it looks really good so I filled in the form to get an estimate.£390!!! Looks like a new frame or bike’s the option now. Don’t really have the money for either so going to have to go for a cheap second hand metal in the meantime I guess if I want to keep riding.1 -
My first proper bike was a Roy Thame 531 with Campag and Mavic wheels. Loved it.Leroy Ambrose said:
Yeah. Real fucking heavy and real fucking flexy 🤣ArmchairAddick said:
Steel is real babyAddickted4life said:
10 years in the cycling trade, my 2 pence is pretty much the same as @Leroy Ambrose above.buckshee said:I’d heard one or two moans about them at the time regarding bottom bracket issues but not frames. Like I say this is the second frame now, annoying thing last time was my original frame was metallic blue and they replaced it with a white one.Other problem is the shop I bought it from shut down recently.I’m going to email Orro later and see where I stand.Just checked and I’ve done less then 1800 miles on it since the frame was last replaced, surely that’s a low about to have a frame crack no?
You may be lucky and get a decent one but QC on Orro frames is known in the industry to be poor. Yes 1,800 miles is a very low amount of mileage to have a crack appear (unless there has been an impact of some kind but in this case that doesn't appear likely).
And apologises but to further add to your woes Orro was the inhouse brand of UK distributor I-Ride who went bust at the end of last year, they've officially been absorbed into an investment company (Baaj Capital LLP) but from what I've seen and heard its been impossible to get through to anyone connected with Orro (which isn't a surprise as I-ride sacked all their staff). I would not be surprised if the Orro website mysteriously and quietly disappears in the next few months.
That being said good luck @buckshee and I'd been interested to know if you get anywhere with it!
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It is cheap but still not worth it on that Orro!Leroy Ambrose said:
That's cheap! Was it Target or Carbon Reincarnation by any chance?buckshee said:Found a company online that repairs carbon frames, looked at some of their work and it looks really good so I filled in the form to get an estimate.£390!!! Looks like a new frame or bike’s the option now. Don’t really have the money for either so going to have to go for a cheap second hand metal in the meantime I guess if I want to keep riding.2 -
That’s the thing, by the sounds of if I could pay that out and in six months time another one appears.Addickted4life said:
It is cheap but still not worth it on that Orro!Leroy Ambrose said:
That's cheap! Was it Target or Carbon Reincarnation by any chance?buckshee said:Found a company online that repairs carbon frames, looked at some of their work and it looks really good so I filled in the form to get an estimate.£390!!! Looks like a new frame or bike’s the option now. Don’t really have the money for either so going to have to go for a cheap second hand metal in the meantime I guess if I want to keep riding.Update, I’ve just had an email back from Orro!!! Asked me to send over a few photos for review, fingers crossed eh. Even if they just replace it with another Orro frame.The original one was metallic blue and the current one is white but their latest version of this is red. My neighbours are going to think I’m buying a new bike every year at this rate.2 -
I'm never going to use carbon. Expensive, bad environmentally and costly to fix. Steel and aluminium are great for me.Baldybonce said:
My first proper bike was a Roy Thame 531 with Campag and Mavic wheels. Loved it.Leroy Ambrose said:
Yeah. Real fucking heavy and real fucking flexy 🤣ArmchairAddick said:
Steel is real babyAddickted4life said:
10 years in the cycling trade, my 2 pence is pretty much the same as @Leroy Ambrose above.buckshee said:I’d heard one or two moans about them at the time regarding bottom bracket issues but not frames. Like I say this is the second frame now, annoying thing last time was my original frame was metallic blue and they replaced it with a white one.Other problem is the shop I bought it from shut down recently.I’m going to email Orro later and see where I stand.Just checked and I’ve done less then 1800 miles on it since the frame was last replaced, surely that’s a low about to have a frame crack no?
You may be lucky and get a decent one but QC on Orro frames is known in the industry to be poor. Yes 1,800 miles is a very low amount of mileage to have a crack appear (unless there has been an impact of some kind but in this case that doesn't appear likely).
And apologises but to further add to your woes Orro was the inhouse brand of UK distributor I-Ride who went bust at the end of last year, they've officially been absorbed into an investment company (Baaj Capital LLP) but from what I've seen and heard its been impossible to get through to anyone connected with Orro (which isn't a surprise as I-ride sacked all their staff). I would not be surprised if the Orro website mysteriously and quietly disappears in the next few months.
That being said good luck @buckshee and I'd been interested to know if you get anywhere with it!
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I love my titanium bike, although I appreciate it will be too heavy for those who want ultimate performance. AKA "old man's carbon", and pretty much bombproof as well as comfy.Cloudworm said:
I'm never going to use carbon. Expensive, bad environmentally and costly to fix. Steel and aluminium are great for me.Baldybonce said:
My first proper bike was a Roy Thame 531 with Campag and Mavic wheels. Loved it.Leroy Ambrose said:
Yeah. Real fucking heavy and real fucking flexy 🤣ArmchairAddick said:
Steel is real babyAddickted4life said:
10 years in the cycling trade, my 2 pence is pretty much the same as @Leroy Ambrose above.buckshee said:I’d heard one or two moans about them at the time regarding bottom bracket issues but not frames. Like I say this is the second frame now, annoying thing last time was my original frame was metallic blue and they replaced it with a white one.Other problem is the shop I bought it from shut down recently.I’m going to email Orro later and see where I stand.Just checked and I’ve done less then 1800 miles on it since the frame was last replaced, surely that’s a low about to have a frame crack no?
You may be lucky and get a decent one but QC on Orro frames is known in the industry to be poor. Yes 1,800 miles is a very low amount of mileage to have a crack appear (unless there has been an impact of some kind but in this case that doesn't appear likely).
And apologises but to further add to your woes Orro was the inhouse brand of UK distributor I-Ride who went bust at the end of last year, they've officially been absorbed into an investment company (Baaj Capital LLP) but from what I've seen and heard its been impossible to get through to anyone connected with Orro (which isn't a surprise as I-ride sacked all their staff). I would not be surprised if the Orro website mysteriously and quietly disappears in the next few months.
That being said good luck @buckshee and I'd been interested to know if you get anywhere with it!
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Spa Audax. It does have a carbon fork, which has lasted perfectly well for 8 years so far. Spa were a delight to deal with, and their own brand seems ridiculously cheap compared to other Ti bikes. A day return to Harrogate gives you the opportunity for a chat and a long test ride.1 -
Yeah, I’m thinking of going back to metal next. Orro are trying to claim the damage has come from clamping but the only clamping I’ve done is on a stand and that was only on the seat post.After being really quick with their responses they’ve now gone silent on me since Tuesday. They’ve offered me a frame at a ‘greatly reduced price’ but failed to say what that is and anyway I’d have to spend a fair bit getting it set up.In the meantime the father in law is lending me his ten speed 105 carbon Ribble so at least I’m back on the road.3
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Been looking at a Ritchey road logic frame (possibly the breakaway version) to keep my ten speed rim brake stuff going. Itching for a custom Columbus or Ti but can't really justify that kind of spending on a frame incompatible with anything modern (wheels/brakes/cables)0
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I'm going to hijack this comment and share some pics of a restoration a friend is having done on a frame he bought in the seventies. Seriously drool worthy.Baldybonce said:
My first proper bike was a Roy Thame 531 with Campag and Mavic wheels. Loved it.Leroy Ambrose said:
Yeah. Real fucking heavy and real fucking flexy 🤣ArmchairAddick said:
Steel is real babyAddickted4life said:
10 years in the cycling trade, my 2 pence is pretty much the same as @Leroy Ambrose above.buckshee said:I’d heard one or two moans about them at the time regarding bottom bracket issues but not frames. Like I say this is the second frame now, annoying thing last time was my original frame was metallic blue and they replaced it with a white one.Other problem is the shop I bought it from shut down recently.I’m going to email Orro later and see where I stand.Just checked and I’ve done less then 1800 miles on it since the frame was last replaced, surely that’s a low about to have a frame crack no?
You may be lucky and get a decent one but QC on Orro frames is known in the industry to be poor. Yes 1,800 miles is a very low amount of mileage to have a crack appear (unless there has been an impact of some kind but in this case that doesn't appear likely).
And apologises but to further add to your woes Orro was the inhouse brand of UK distributor I-Ride who went bust at the end of last year, they've officially been absorbed into an investment company (Baaj Capital LLP) but from what I've seen and heard its been impossible to get through to anyone connected with Orro (which isn't a surprise as I-ride sacked all their staff). I would not be surprised if the Orro website mysteriously and quietly disappears in the next few months.
That being said good luck @buckshee and I'd been interested to know if you get anywhere with it!
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Luckily for me (though not for him) the father in law fell off a roof a couple of years back and now only rides indoors in his Wahoo trainer so I’ve been given a lend of his bike for now which will more than do.
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Good luck to everyone doing London to Brighton tomorrow. I've somehow ended up with a 6am start, so will be leaving home before 3 to meet up with the rest of the team in Rochester and then mini bus to the start
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Looks in good nick for a twelve year old bike. Love the looks of the older silver Shimano groupsets as well.buckshee said:Luckily for me (though not for him) the father in law fell off a roof a couple of years back and now only rides indoors in his Wahoo trainer so I’ve been given a lend of his bike for now which will more than do.0 -
Good luck - getting out that early means you'll hopefully be away from most of the choppersrandy andy said:Good luck to everyone doing London to Brighton tomorrow. I've somehow ended up with a 6am start, so will be leaving home before 3 to meet up with the rest of the team in Rochester and then mini bus to the start
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Yeah, he’s always been very good with the upkeep of his bikes and it will more than do the job until I sort mine.Leroy Ambrose said:
Looks in good nick for a twelve year old bike. Love the looks of the older silver Shimano groupsets as well.buckshee said:Luckily for me (though not for him) the father in law fell off a roof a couple of years back and now only rides indoors in his Wahoo trainer so I’ve been given a lend of his bike for now which will more than do.1 -
Good luck everyone doing L2B today.
I'm going to hijack the thread again to promote what I'll be off supporting today.
Stephen Aslin is a long time Herne Hill track rider and race promoter. He's also a retired firefighter.
Today is the second leg on his round the world bike trip raising funds for the Grenfell foundation, on the 8th anniversary of the tragedy. I'll be joining in on his stage today of Preston Circus in Brighton to Rye, before he heads to Dover tomorrow and the ferry.
If anyone wants to read about his reasons and donate please do so here:
https://www.justgiving.com/page/stephen-aslin-1727783156925
For the dot watchers there a link to his tracker here:
https://followmychallenge.com/live/grenfell-tower2tower-2025/
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Tobias Halland Johannessen 750/1 (SKYBET) to win TDF. Will be up there and not impossible to imagine he could finish in the Top 3. First time in his pro career he hasn't been injured in the build up to the race.0
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4 hours 16 minutes according to my Strava. Happy with that, but more important than the time is that (apart from Ditchling of course) I made it up all the hills. Week off, then back in training for the Ride Essex 100!
Good luck - getting out that early means you'll hopefully be away from most of the choppersrandy andy said:Good luck to everyone doing London to Brighton tomorrow. I've somehow ended up with a 6am start, so will be leaving home before 3 to meet up with the rest of the team in Rochester and then mini bus to the start
Some mates are doing there and back, but picking the route up from Carshalton2 -
I thought Ride London was cancelled this year?randy andy said:Leroy Ambrose said:
4 hours 16 minutes according to my Strava. Happy with that, but more important than the time is that (apart from Ditchling of course) I made it up all the hills. Week off, then back in training for the Ride Essex 100!
Good luck - getting out that early means you'll hopefully be away from most of the choppersrandy andy said:Good luck to everyone doing London to Brighton tomorrow. I've somehow ended up with a 6am start, so will be leaving home before 3 to meet up with the rest of the team in Rochester and then mini bus to the start
Some mates are doing there and back, but picking the route up from Carshalton0 -
Well done!randy andy said:Leroy Ambrose said:
4 hours 16 minutes according to my Strava. Happy with that, but more important than the time is that (apart from Ditchling of course) I made it up all the hills. Week off, then back in training for the Ride Essex 100!
Good luck - getting out that early means you'll hopefully be away from most of the choppersrandy andy said:Good luck to everyone doing London to Brighton tomorrow. I've somehow ended up with a 6am start, so will be leaving home before 3 to meet up with the rest of the team in Rochester and then mini bus to the start
Some mates are doing there and back, but picking the route up from Carshalton1 -
It is, that's why we had to do Ride Essex instead. Would have preferred Ride LondonClem_Snide said:
I thought Ride London was cancelled this year?randy andy said:Leroy Ambrose said:
4 hours 16 minutes according to my Strava. Happy with that, but more important than the time is that (apart from Ditchling of course) I made it up all the hills. Week off, then back in training for the Ride Essex 100!
Good luck - getting out that early means you'll hopefully be away from most of the choppersrandy andy said:Good luck to everyone doing London to Brighton tomorrow. I've somehow ended up with a 6am start, so will be leaving home before 3 to meet up with the rest of the team in Rochester and then mini bus to the start
Some mates are doing there and back, but picking the route up from Carshalton0 -
Sorry, read that as Ride London Essex. Didn’t realise there was a ride Essex!randy andy said:
It is, that's why we had to do Ride Essex instead. Would have preferred Ride LondonClem_Snide said:
I thought Ride London was cancelled this year?randy andy said:Leroy Ambrose said:
4 hours 16 minutes according to my Strava. Happy with that, but more important than the time is that (apart from Ditchling of course) I made it up all the hills. Week off, then back in training for the Ride Essex 100!
Good luck - getting out that early means you'll hopefully be away from most of the choppersrandy andy said:Good luck to everyone doing London to Brighton tomorrow. I've somehow ended up with a 6am start, so will be leaving home before 3 to meet up with the rest of the team in Rochester and then mini bus to the start
Some mates are doing there and back, but picking the route up from Carshalton0 -
Cycle to work scheme, how does it work exactly? Seen a nice Giant bike I fancy that I can get through the wife's cycle to work scheme. 18 months at £118 a month, question is what happens at the end of those 18 months, is it mine with no more to pay?0
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No. You pay a balance based on a pre-set depreciation. Or you give it back. Or you can sometimes extend to a five year plan and basically have nothing to pay at the end.
There are multiple different schemes for this, each of them usually has a calculator web page to show what you'd pay at each stage and what your options are.0 -
Personally I'm not a fan. I like to buy something and own it:period. Also once you add it all up at the end, you aren't really saving all that much cash in real terms. Especially as you are limited to about 3k or something like that.0
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I've used it a number of times. The scheme was always 12 months. Never spent more than £2000 so I used it to buy a "winter hacker". With regard to final payments, this really depends on how stringently your wife's employer administers the scheme - I think I paid about £50 to roll the agreement on and then never heard another peep.buckshee said:Cycle to work scheme, how does it work exactly? Seen a nice Giant bike I fancy that I can get through the wife's cycle to work scheme. 18 months at £118 a month, question is what happens at the end of those 18 months, is it mine with no more to pay?
I would urge you to have a look at the 2025 Cube Bikes - ridiculously good value. Also consider the fact that Cycle Exchange in Kingston take Cycle to Work vouchers. They often have some amazing deals. Got my current Pinarello X7 from them -ex demo bike in mint condition and £2k under the list price.1
