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Thierry Small - signed a 4 year deal with Preston (p36)

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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance
    edited June 8
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
  • CombeMartin
    CombeMartin
    Apologies for mixing up Romania with Hungary,  I knew it was in that direction and was working from memory, and I only mentioned Dobbo and Alfie because it was said somewhere in this thread that NJ didn't want them which was contrary to what I'd been told.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
  • CombeMartin
    CombeMartin
    edited June 8
    Kap10 said:
    Chucks Aneke advises young players on how to manage their finances and may well be providing support to Thierry on how to enjoy his "wind fall".  He will probably have a car that most of us would not be able to afford, but the Ferrari will probably wait till he gets to the next level.  Aneke has also got young players to invest in property (He also has a property investment business).
    When I was his age I wanted to buy a 2nd hand Alfa Romeo, a Guilia Sprint.  A nice looking 2 door 2+2 coupe.  I ended up with a 59 Austin Healy "Frogeye" Sprite, which 3 years later ended up with its nose in a tree !

  • Braziliance
    Braziliance
    edited June 8
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
    I wouldn't be too sceptical. Considering we know the likes of Berry, Godden, Lloyd, Docherty and Coventry are all earning between 6-8k a week, those numbers seem right to me. 

    They're all the numbers on wage data sites, football games, fans knowledge etc. AI has access to all the web pages and publicised data, it's almost not like trusting a calculator. Unless you want to hear it from the player themselves, then I believe those numbers, or they won't be far off at all.

    It's pretty ridiculous to think Pompey for instance would be paying less than 95k per week on their starting XI in the championship. That is very cheap.
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
    Millwall spent just over £25m on staff costs for the 2023/24 season. Source: Millwall https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/

    Most of that will have been on players. That would have increased again for last season, as they signed Tanganga, Coburn, Cundle, Connolly, Crama and Neghil, who would all demand decent Championship wages. 

    So the figures Brazilliance is quoting sound pretty accurate.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance
    edited June 8
    Woodwork said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
    Millwall spent just over £25m on staff costs for the 2023/24 season. Source: Millwall https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/

    Most of that will have been on players. That would have increased again for last season, as they signed Tanganga, Coburn, Cundle, Connolly, Crama and Neghil, who would all demand decent Championship wages. 

    So the figures Brazilliance is quoting sound pretty accurate.
    Safe to assume 15 of that 25 million at bare minimum is on players wages. That's 288k per week on players wages. With your squad size being 35 some rough maths is on average 9.3k per week per player at Millwall. 

    It's mind boggling to me that people think otherwise. It's a top 10 league in Europe for a reason. The quality of players is on par with some major footballing nations top flights, and the wages are as well. 

    I've seen fans predict us to finish mid-table or stay up, but aren't comfortable with the club paying the lower tier championship wages. 
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork
    edited June 8
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
    Millwall spent just over £25m on staff costs for the 2023/24 season. Source: Millwall https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/

    Most of that will have been on players. That would have increased again for last season, as they signed Tanganga, Coburn, Cundle, Connolly, Crama and Neghil, who would all demand decent Championship wages. 

    So the figures Brazilliance is quoting sound pretty accurate.
    Safe to assume 15 of that 25 million at bare minimum is on players wages. That's 288k per week on players wages. With your squad size being 35 some rough maths is on average 9.3k per week per player at Millwall. 

    It's mind boggling to me that people think otherwise. It's a top 10 league in Europe for a reason. The quality of players is on par with some major footballing nations top flights, and the wages are as well. 

    I've seen fans predict us to finish mid-table or stay up, but aren't comfortable with the club paying the lower tier championship wages. 
    I’d guess 80% is on player wages, so more like £20m. With first teamers on around / between £11-16k. 
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  • Woodwork
    Woodwork
    The Red Robin said:
    Woodwork said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
    Millwall spent just over £25m on staff costs for the 2023/24 season. Source: Millwall https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/

    Most of that will have been on players. That would have increased again for last season, as they signed Tanganga, Coburn, Cundle, Connolly, Crama and Neghil, who would all demand decent Championship wages. 

    So the figures Brazilliance is quoting sound pretty accurate.
    🚨🚨Millwall alert 🚨 🚨
    Preston spent over £22m on wages for 2023/24 season… better?

    https://swissramble.substack.com/p/preston-north-end-finances-202324
  • scabbyhorse
    scabbyhorse

    Right, I’ve had enough of the Championship already. Can we just rewind and go back to League One, please? I miss the simpler times—where we were the big fish, the sun was always shining, and we didn’t need a stiff drink every time we have to look at the fixture list.

    This league is all doom, gloom, and teams with parachute payments throwing around money like it’s Monopoly. 

    In the Championship, it seems like we are going to celebrate draws like cup finals and everyone seems to be googling ex players and free agent centre-backs over 35 with good character references. It’s exhausting 😜 


  • Braziliance
    Braziliance
    Woodwork said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Woodwork said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
    Millwall spent just over £25m on staff costs for the 2023/24 season. Source: Millwall https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/

    Most of that will have been on players. That would have increased again for last season, as they signed Tanganga, Coburn, Cundle, Connolly, Crama and Neghil, who would all demand decent Championship wages. 

    So the figures Brazilliance is quoting sound pretty accurate.
    🚨🚨Millwall alert 🚨 🚨
    Preston spent over £22m on wages for 2023/24 season… better?

    https://swissramble.substack.com/p/preston-north-end-finances-202324
    Preston squad size 27 for that season. Works out to 15k per week on average per player, knock a bit off to account for other players not part of their main squad etc and other inflations. 

    Reckon it's still safe to say that makes their average spend was 10-13k per player.
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork
    Cardiff City’s player wage bill was £20m for 2023/24. 

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin
    Woodwork said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Woodwork said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    fenaddick said:
    Braziliance said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Shame to see a young, developing player leave but I don’t think we will struggle to replace him.

    As exciting as he could be the end product wasn’t evident yet, so maybe Preston will get the best out of him 

    Personally he was one of the players on my list who I think will struggle against Championship defenses so I am not overly concerned 

     I’m surprised at how many people think he will struggle in the Championship. On this thread  https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/97357/8-8-8#latest I didn’t see too many people disagreeing that he was an “Elite” player (or whatever the silly terminology is) but a player moving to another team can have that kind of revisionary effect.

    In reality I think the vast majority of Charlton fans would have wanted to keep him, if he had signed a 3 year deal I’m sure he would have been in our starting XI on the first day of the season and I do think it’s concerning what this says about our ability to compete against even the smallest teams in this league.
    If the average wage is 10k a week in the Championship I fear we'll fall short on that figure unless we bring in a load of free/loan transfers.
    Considering the likes of Swansea, Millwall, Preston,QPR are spending c£25m on wages, suggests the average is much higher than £10k. Certainly in terms of for first teamers. 
    I am amazed how many people don't seem to realise how much money is involved in the Champ. I know we have been League1 for a while, but it was like this ten years ago.

    The average salary estimated of every starting XI is 153k between last seasons 24. Almost 14k per player. Obviously the parachute teams make it like this, but then the lower end teams balance it out, hence the 153k. 

    I think based on everything that is available online this is how the relegation contenders/recently promoted sides pay out. 

    Top players, I.e. Lloyd and Ramsay 9-12k 
    Mid tier players - Docherty & Gilleshey 7-9k 
    Low tier players - Dixon and Asiimwe 4-7k 

    If we were to stay up for instance, and our top players were in contract negotiations, we would have to pay them upwards of 10k a week or they will move on. That is this league in a nutshell. 
    Out of interest where are you getting your average wage numbers from? I’m only asking because the accounts for 24/25 aren’t out yet. The only place I saw guess numbers was so inaccurate it had Cambridge as spending more than us 
    AI. I ask it to use every source material available and breakdown an average. 

    So as an example, this site lists Tanganga on 20k a week: https://salarysport.com/football/championship/millwall/

    This site says 35k a week: https://www.capology.com/club/millwall/salaries/

    I used Millwall as an example as they are our local rivals and will be paying the 'London' rate.

    The bigger the club, the more public the wages, that's what you will find. Our average wage last season for our starting XI was apparently 5-6k a week. It is over double in the Championship on average, 60k vs 153k. AI believes the lowest paid starting XI team was Pompey at 8.5k a week/95k a week. 

    People may say it isn't 100% accurate, which they would be correct in saying, but when I use it, it does use publicised data from previous seasons and then estimates. 
    Each to their own but I’d be sceptical of that because there’s so much guesswork on the internet that the AI will be scraping, including those two websites you quoted 
    Millwall spent just over £25m on staff costs for the 2023/24 season. Source: Millwall https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2025/march/14/millwall-football-club-submit-annual-report-and-financial-statements/

    Most of that will have been on players. That would have increased again for last season, as they signed Tanganga, Coburn, Cundle, Connolly, Crama and Neghil, who would all demand decent Championship wages. 

    So the figures Brazilliance is quoting sound pretty accurate.
    🚨🚨Millwall alert 🚨 🚨
    Preston spent over £22m on wages for 2023/24 season… better?

    https://swissramble.substack.com/p/preston-north-end-finances-202324
    Eight times anyone else I heard 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED
    He's gone and we move on. My youngest is upset but I've told him to suck it up and get used to it. I'm sure I went through this with my eldest and with Taylor.
    He's not irreplaceable 
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork
    QPR are an interesting one to look at. Spending c£24m on wages to basically stand still. 

  • West2003
    West2003
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Roll on our next signing...then maybe we can talk about a new player rather than one who plays for the opposition...14 pages now.
    Just saying...🤞🙄
    Buckle up everyone! It’s that time of year when we start getting posts like this. God forbid anyone wanting to continue discussing something on a football forum!
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168
    edited June 8
    West2003 said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Roll on our next signing...then maybe we can talk about a new player rather than one who plays for the opposition...14 pages now.
    Just saying...🤞🙄
    Buckle up everyone! It’s that time of year when we start getting posts like this. God forbid anyone wanting to continue discussing something on a football forum!
    "Posts like this"...wtf happened to free speech..
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED
    eastterrace6168 said:
    West2003 said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Roll on our next signing...then maybe we can talk about a new player rather than one who plays for the opposition...14 pages now.
    Just saying...🤞🙄
    Buckle up everyone! It’s that time of year when we start getting posts like this. God forbid anyone wanting to continue discussing something on a football forum!
    "Posts like this"...wtf happened to free speech..
    To be fair, you had a rant whilst people were posting their opinions 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc
    How much did Oxford and Portsmouth spend on wages last season?

    Those are the clubs we should be looking to emulate.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168
    edited June 8
    orpingtonRED said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    West2003 said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Roll on our next signing...then maybe we can talk about a new player rather than one who plays for the opposition...14 pages now.
    Just saying...🤞🙄
    Buckle up everyone! It’s that time of year when we start getting posts like this. God forbid anyone wanting to continue discussing something on a football forum!
    "Posts like this"...wtf happened to free speech..
    To be fair, you had a rant whilst people were posting their opinions 
    A rant now was it...it was just another post, so either people ignore it or agree, it's not awkward stuff really...
    Anyway friends again...🤞
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED
    eastterrace6168 said:
    orpingtonRED said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    West2003 said:
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Roll on our next signing...then maybe we can talk about a new player rather than one who plays for the opposition...14 pages now.
    Just saying...🤞🙄
    Buckle up everyone! It’s that time of year when we start getting posts like this. God forbid anyone wanting to continue discussing something on a football forum!
    "Posts like this"...wtf happened to free speech..
    To be fair, you had a rant whilst people were posting their opinions 
    A rant now was it...it was just another post, so either people ignore it or agree, it's not awkward stuff really...
    Anyway friends again...🤞
    Ignore or agree lol what a lovely world you live in
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED
    People disagree mate. Grow up
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168
    orpingtonRED said:
    People disagree mate. Grow up
    Just a turn of phrase, shall we draw a line mate...
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED
    eastterrace6168 said:
    orpingtonRED said:
    People disagree mate. Grow up
    Just a turn of phrase, shall we draw a line mate...
    Yes mate
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork
    Callumcafc said:
    How much did Oxford and Portsmouth spend on wages last season?

    Those are the clubs we should be looking to emulate.
    The official accounts aren’t out yet. But Portsmouth spent £10.5m on wages to get promoted from L1, so that was their base. Same with Oxford United. Not out yet. There are websites that have educated guesses, but can’t really be trusted, as one estimates Portsmouth's wage bill as being lower than their official wage bill for L1. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance
    edited June 8
    Callumcafc said:
    How much did Oxford and Portsmouth spend on wages last season?

    Those are the clubs we should be looking to emulate.
    Until it's been confirmed like Woodwork posted, all you can look at is the estimate range.

    Oxfords is listed at £11,134,000 per year, 214,115 per week. A big difference with Oxford and the teams above is they have about 10 extra players in their squad to the likes of QPR, Preston, Millwall etc. Their weekly bill works out to £5786 per player. 

    Portsmouth is listed as £9,451,000 per year, 181,750 a week. 32 man squad compared to Oxfords 37. 5.6k per player per week.

    Ours before promotion was 7,231,000 per year, 139k per week. Squad size 24 (8-13 less players), 5.7k per week. Also worth noting Tedic was on 13k a week which put a massive dent in our figures. Doubt we paid that much for him though.

    Oxford, Portsmouth and Plymouth by far the lowest spenders. We are hopefully ooking to have a Portsmouth/Oxford season.

    Oxford and Portsmouths will more than likely go up, based on all the projections and our current wages, we are looking to be the lowest spenders in the Championship next season, and very comfortably as well. 

    21st would be a monumental achievement. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED
    Braziliance said:
    Callumcafc said:
    How much did Oxford and Portsmouth spend on wages last season?

    Those are the clubs we should be looking to emulate.
    Until it's been confirmed like Woodwork posted, all you can look at is the estimate range.

    Oxfords is listed at £11,134,000 per year, 214,115 per week. A big difference with Oxford and the teams above is they have about 10 extra players in their squad to the likes of QPR, Preston, Millwall etc. Their weekly bill works out to £5786 per player. 

    Portsmouth is listed as £9,451,000 per year, 181,750 a week. 32 man squad compared to Oxfords 37. 5.6k per player per week.

    Ours before promotion was 7,231,000 per year, 139k per week. Squad size 24 (8-13 less players), 5.7k per week. Also worth noting Tedic was on 13k a week which put a massive dent in our figures. Doubt we paid that much for him though.

    Oxford, Portsmouth and Plymouth by far the lowest spenders. We are hopefully ooking to have a Portsmouth/Oxford season.

    Oxford and Portsmouths will more than likely go up, based on all the projections and our current wages, we are looking to be the lowest spenders in the Championship next season, and very comfortably as well. 

    21st would be a monumental achievement. 
    So we were paying similar in wages last season to Oxford and Pompey? 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance
    edited June 8
    orpingtonRED said:
    Braziliance said:
    Callumcafc said:
    How much did Oxford and Portsmouth spend on wages last season?

    Those are the clubs we should be looking to emulate.
    Until it's been confirmed like Woodwork posted, all you can look at is the estimate range.

    Oxfords is listed at £11,134,000 per year, 214,115 per week. A big difference with Oxford and the teams above is they have about 10 extra players in their squad to the likes of QPR, Preston, Millwall etc. Their weekly bill works out to £5786 per player. 

    Portsmouth is listed as £9,451,000 per year, 181,750 a week. 32 man squad compared to Oxfords 37. 5.6k per player per week.

    Ours before promotion was 7,231,000 per year, 139k per week. Squad size 24 (8-13 less players), 5.7k per week. Also worth noting Tedic was on 13k a week which put a massive dent in our figures. Doubt we paid that much for him though.

    Oxford, Portsmouth and Plymouth by far the lowest spenders. We are hopefully ooking to have a Portsmouth/Oxford season.

    Oxford and Portsmouths will more than likely go up, based on all the projections and our current wages, we are looking to be the lowest spenders in the Championship next season, and very comfortably as well. 

    21st would be a monumental achievement. 
    So we were paying similar in wages last season to Oxford and Pompey? 
    No mate.

    These are estimated wages. We had 8 less players than Portsmouth and 13 less than Oxford in our 23/24 confirmed figures compared to Pompey and Oxfords estimated wages season in 24/25.

    Tedic alone accounted for 13k of our 139k and didn't even make our XI, so it's hard to know until figures are officially released how we match up. Not saying we paid that, as there's no way we paid for all of that, but I am mentioning him as it heavily inflated our weekly wage on the figures.

    The likelihood is we were paying anywhere between 2-3k a week less than Oxford and Portsmouth were on average per player. Both newly promoted sides though and as our representatives boasted, we always had a top4 budget, so it was always going to be relatively close to newly promoted sides, compared to the upper tier championship sides.

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