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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours
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Am I right that the window opened yesterday, 1st June and closes 10 June before reopening again later in the summer?
If so, how many do people think we bring in during this first period...?
I'm going to go for 3.
Also, should I be worried we are 24 hours or so in, but not yet signed anyone? 😉1 -
Plaaayer said:At their peak at 23?
Players who know they have the option to just go back to their own club if things don't work out are maybe going to see how much drilling and hard work Jones demands and just not bother, potentially - if they know that in a few months they can go back to earning money on the bench again.0 -
MarcusH26 said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
If Leonard is available it suggests to me they plan to strengthen again.Lincsaddick said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
I think similar to us and Tennai, unfortunately for him, Birmingham have grown so quick that he's surplus to requirements now.2 -
Would take Leonard if there's a path to a permanent deal. Him and Con Cov in a double pivot would be excellent.3
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Athletico Charlton said:Am I right that the window opened yesterday, 1st June and closes 10 June before reopening again later in the summer?
If so, how many do people think we bring in during this first period...?
I'm going to go for 3.
Also, should I be worried we are 24 hours or so in, but not yet signed anyone? 😉7 -
Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.6 -
Athletico Charlton said:Am I right that the window opened yesterday, 1st June and closes 10 June before reopening again later in the summer?
If so, how many do people think we bring in during this first period...?
I'm going to go for 3.
Also, should I be worried we are 24 hours or so in, but not yet signed anyone? 😉5 -
Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
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Whilst I agree we should be looking for an upgrade on Doc, I have that down as a priority position, but we need depth and options in every position. He has championship experience and is a leader and battler, he knows the manager and the system. We could do a lot worse for a 2nd choice in that role. Same goes for Berry4
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Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
I think what he brings to the team is underrated both on and off the pitch, and I cannot imagine Jones made him captain because he thought he wouldn't at least be able to contribute in the Championship.13 - Sponsored links:
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Maybe we should amalgamate this thread and the FM 25/26 one0
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Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
When I say he didn't do it, I mean he didn't thrive in this league. If he did, he would have been kept by Hull. He couldn't even stand out in League1 if we are being honest.
We need better to progress, harsh but true.1 -
Athletico Charlton said:Am I right that the window opened yesterday, 1st June and closes 10 June before reopening again later in the summer?
If so, how many do people think we bring in during this first period...?
I'm going to go for 3.
Also, should I be worried we are 24 hours or so in, but not yet signed anyone? 😉"The summer 2025 transfer window is, unusually, split into two parts.
It will initially open on Sunday, 1 June and close nine days later. The early window allows teams participating in the Club World Cup the chance to sign players before the tournament begins.
The window will reopen on Monday, 16 June, before closing on Monday, 1 September at 7pm for Premier League, EFL and Scottish Premiership clubs."
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FishCostaFortune said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
I think what he brings to the team is underrated both on and off the pitch, and I cannot imagine Jones made him captain because he thought he wouldn't at least be able to contribute in the Championship.
I would be surprised if anyone on here would be happy with him being a part of our starting line up first game of the season.
We got promoted because our defense was excellent, we lost the midfield battle more times than I can count this season. A player who can control the tempo of the game and create a bit of magic in the middle would seriously upgrade us.1 -
cantersaddick said:Whilst I agree we should be looking for an upgrade on Doc, I have that down as a priority position, but we need depth and options in every position. He has championship experience and is a leader and battler, he knows the manager and the system. We could do a lot worse for a 2nd choice in that role. Same goes for Berry1
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Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
When I say he didn't do it, I mean he didn't thrive in this league. If he did, he would have been kept by Hull. He couldn't even stand out in League1 if we are being honest.
We need better to progress, harsh but true.
He was kept by Hull, for three seasons, and then like most players at one time or another he moved on to be the captain of a promotion winning team in league one but that isn't enough somehow.
We do need better players to progress but that is no reason to dismiss the contributions that Doc and many others have made.
I just don't get this whole either/or justification. Someone can like both Chinese and Indian food. You don't have to run down one to like the other.
We can praise a player AND want better replacements
We don't have to write off a player, and in this case our captain who did contribute greatly, just to justify bringing in someone better, younger, fitter, more suited.
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I think Jones likes Docherty a lot and made him his captain. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t feature a lot next season. For every player there is a better player than themselves but we’ve got to find them and sign them first. I think Doc did a pretty impressive job last season.6
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Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
When I say he didn't do it, I mean he didn't thrive in this league. If he did, he would have been kept by Hull. He couldn't even stand out in League1 if we are being honest.
We need better to progress, harsh but true.
He was kept by Hull, for three seasons, and then like most players at one time or another he moved on to be the captain of a promotion winning team in league one but that isn't enough somehow.
We do need better players to progress but that is no reason to dismiss the contributions that Doc and many others have made.
I just don't get this whole either/or justification. Someone can like both Chinese and Indian food. You don't have to run down one to like the other.
We can praise a player AND want better replacements
We don't have to write off a player, and in this case our captain who did contribute greatly, just to justify bringing in someone better, younger, fitter, more suited.
I believe he was a passenger in the championship, you believe he was championship quality.
Moving on.1 -
Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
When I say he didn't do it, I mean he didn't thrive in this league. If he did, he would have been kept by Hull. He couldn't even stand out in League1 if we are being honest.
We need better to progress, harsh but true.
He was kept by Hull, for three seasons, and then like most players at one time or another he moved on to be the captain of a promotion winning team in league one but that isn't enough somehow.
We do need better players to progress but that is no reason to dismiss the contributions that Doc and many others have made.
I just don't get this whole either/or justification. Someone can like both Chinese and Indian food. You don't have to run down one to like the other.
We can praise a player AND want better replacements
We don't have to write off a player, and in this case our captain who did contribute greatly, just to justify bringing in someone better, younger, fitter, more suited.
I believe he was a passenger in the championship, you believe he was championship quality.
Moving on.
Again, why make stuff up just to justify replacing him.6 -
Worth remembering not all players have to stand out to have done a good job. A lot of things the best footballers do goes unnoticed and are really important. If you have 11 players all standing out every match you probably don’t have a team but closer to 11 individuals7
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Braziliance said:FishCostaFortune said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
I think what he brings to the team is underrated both on and off the pitch, and I cannot imagine Jones made him captain because he thought he wouldn't at least be able to contribute in the Championship.
I would be surprised if anyone on here would be happy with him being a part of our starting line up first game of the season.
We got promoted because our defense was excellent, we lost the midfield battle more times than I can count this season. A player who can control the tempo of the game and create a bit of magic in the middle would seriously upgrade us.
When we were going through our rough patch, the overarching sentiment that people fell back to was focused on 'a playmaker', 'number 10', and yet we went on an absolute tear up from January onwards by not doing this - and Docherty was part of this.1 -
If Phil Chapple still has the Midas touch then we hope that his working relationship with Nathan can reap the same rewards that Ramsey, Edwards and after slow starts at CAFC, Lloyd Jones and Macca brought to our tight defence in 24/25 along with Coventry as the link man in front and Small who can play on either side whether helping the defence or the attack.
Every newcomer needs to push the player with the shirt at present and be a potential Starter.
In the ideal scouting world you wouldn't sign the likes of Kirk and Ahadme on long contracts and with the return of big Phil we really should've more upgrades than downgrades despite the financial package meaning we won't get all our targets.
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Doc played 40 games for Hull in 21/22, a season in which they finished 19th in the Championship.
Doc played 35 games for Hull in 22/23, a season in which they finished 15th in the Championship.
He’s been there and done it.
I don’t know about anyone else but I’d take 19th and 15th over the next two seasons.39 -
Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
When I say he didn't do it, I mean he didn't thrive in this league. If he did, he would have been kept by Hull. He couldn't even stand out in League1 if we are being honest.
We need better to progress, harsh but true.
He was kept by Hull, for three seasons, and then like most players at one time or another he moved on to be the captain of a promotion winning team in league one but that isn't enough somehow.
We do need better players to progress but that is no reason to dismiss the contributions that Doc and many others have made.
I just don't get this whole either/or justification. Someone can like both Chinese and Indian food. You don't have to run down one to like the other.
We can praise a player AND want better replacements
We don't have to write off a player, and in this case our captain who did contribute greatly, just to justify bringing in someone better, younger, fitter, more suited.
I believe he was a passenger in the championship, you believe he was championship quality.
Moving on.
Again, why make stuff up just to justify replacing him.
24/25: League 1, 40 apps, 4 goals 2 assists.
23/24: 15 Champ apps, bit part player
22/23: 1940 minutes of Champ football
21/22: 40 champ apps, 1 goal, 2842 mins, 71 mins average per game
20/21: Very good league 1 numbers, 5 goals, 5 assist, 44 appearances
19/20: Scottish prem, 6 apps, bit part player
18/19: League 1, 7 goals, 8 assists, good season
The common theme is, he does decent/good in league1, and struggles to make the step up. I saw plenty of Hull fans say it was the right move to let him go. Similar to how plenty of our fans will tell another club Chuks and Tennai will do a job.
I didn't watch him all those last 6 years, so I can only go from what I've read, and then watched with my own eyes, which is that he wasn't great in league1 for us, so I am doubtful he will make the step up, as he has previous history of failing.
Is this satisfactory and no longer making stuff up?8 -
TeeC said:Do we have any sense as to how FFP will impact our ambitions, whatever they may be? If (big if) the owners wanted to spend £20m - could they?1
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Doherty I think is in the unfortunate position where he doesn't do particularly spectacular things but you notice his absence more than his presence, a kind of glue that sticks all the other bits together. NJ wouldn't have made him captain for no reason.6
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Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
When I say he didn't do it, I mean he didn't thrive in this league. If he did, he would have been kept by Hull. He couldn't even stand out in League1 if we are being honest.
We need better to progress, harsh but true.
He was kept by Hull, for three seasons, and then like most players at one time or another he moved on to be the captain of a promotion winning team in league one but that isn't enough somehow.
We do need better players to progress but that is no reason to dismiss the contributions that Doc and many others have made.
I just don't get this whole either/or justification. Someone can like both Chinese and Indian food. You don't have to run down one to like the other.
We can praise a player AND want better replacements
We don't have to write off a player, and in this case our captain who did contribute greatly, just to justify bringing in someone better, younger, fitter, more suited.
I like both Chinese and Indian food.6 -
I'll be interested to see Docherty's end of season statbank score. It will probably be in the lower quadrant. He's been part of a winning team, so obviously there's natural credit that comes with that. He's also had a couple of great games and scored some important goals. On a game-by-game basis, I personally think he could have had more of an impact. I don't think he'd let us down in the Champ but I also think an upgrade wouldn't be out of the question.
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Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Henry Irving said:Braziliance said:Crispywood said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.Scoham said:Braziliance said:https://x.com/SportsPeteO/status/1929528197361910167?t=pA6KNsxKkl8I-dZ4uzRvUA&s=19
Marc Leonard anyone?
Loan with an option to buy would be ideal. Reckon he would start for us.
Docherty is a league1 quality player imo. I am expecting us to upgrade on him.
I think Jones should be club captain and Docherty shouldn't be starting. Might sound harsh but it just worries me how little he played for Hull and he's never really done it at this level.
Sorry to any Doc fans but I'd like to see us sign two new mids to play with Cov.
We should, if we can, upgrade on Doc but the same can be said for every player in the side. You could argue he dropped down a level for a reason but to pretend he never did it is just nonsense.
When I say he didn't do it, I mean he didn't thrive in this league. If he did, he would have been kept by Hull. He couldn't even stand out in League1 if we are being honest.
We need better to progress, harsh but true.
He was kept by Hull, for three seasons, and then like most players at one time or another he moved on to be the captain of a promotion winning team in league one but that isn't enough somehow.
We do need better players to progress but that is no reason to dismiss the contributions that Doc and many others have made.
I just don't get this whole either/or justification. Someone can like both Chinese and Indian food. You don't have to run down one to like the other.
We can praise a player AND want better replacements
We don't have to write off a player, and in this case our captain who did contribute greatly, just to justify bringing in someone better, younger, fitter, more suited.
I believe he was a passenger in the championship, you believe he was championship quality.
Moving on.
Again, why make stuff up just to justify replacing him.
24/25: League 1, 40 apps, 4 goals 2 assists.
23/24: 15 Champ apps, bit part player
22/23: 1940 minutes of Champ football
21/22: 40 champ apps, 1 goal, 2842 mins, 71 mins average per game
20/21: Very good league 1 numbers, 5 goals, 5 assist, 44 appearances
19/20: Scottish prem, 6 apps, bit part player
18/19: League 1, 7 goals, 8 assists, good season
The common theme is, he does decent/good in league1, and struggles to make the step up. I saw plenty of Hull fans say it was the right move to let him go. Similar to how plenty of our fans will tell another club Chuks and Tennai will do a job.
I didn't watch him all those last 6 years, so I can only go from what I've read, and then watched with my own eyes, which is that he wasn't great in league1 for us, so I am doubtful he will make the step up, as he has previous history of failing.
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Callumcafc said:Doc played 40 games for Hull in 21/22, a season in which they finished 19th in the Championship.
Doc played 35 games for Hull in 22/23, a season in which they finished 15th in the Championship.
He’s been there and done it.
I don’t know about anyone else but I’d take 19th and 15th over the next two seasons.
Hull also spent a shit load on wages like you also said you don't want to see us do to secure those league finishes.
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