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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)
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Fkn hell! Plymouth as well.Callumcafc said:
https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/next-manager.133013/page-70#post-2755178
Plymouth reckon he’s in the running there as well.
Who next, Luton.
I don't believe for a second he would level us for Plymouth.1 -
Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either19
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That seems very far fetched.Callumcafc said:https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/next-manager.133013/page-70#post-2755178
Plymouth reckon he’s in the running there as well.Worrying in some ways that his name is cropping up in multiple places though.0 -
Jones has the right to at least listen to their offer but I highly doubt it would go ahead. Absolutely no chance of it happening.
He might go Cardiff in 1 or 2 seasons, but it certainly won't be now.2 -
Would he be allowed to speak to Cardiff / Plymouth without the owners permission though?fenaddick said:Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either
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Here’s what will happen:
Jones will go to Cardiff and get sacked by Tan in November after they lose their third game in a row against Northampton (they would go up via playoffs if they kept him).
Charlton are struggling in the Championship. 23rd at Christmas. Whichever poor bloke comes in after Jones is let go as well.
Mid-January and Jones comes back grovelling saying it was a stupid decision to leave. We rehire him and stay up.
Then he leaves next summer for the newly relegated Sunderland.11 -
Two times now that budget has been mentioned, and our spokespeople said we would be looking to maneuver in the market sensibly.fenaddick said:Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either
On the other hand, Nathan Jones said to a fan that "we're fackin loaded".
Never a boring day at Charlton.2 -
If he went to Cardiff now after getting us promoted and failed no one would touch him again13
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When Jones went for the Millwall job, one reason he didn’t get it was the fact that he asked for a release clause. No idea if he asked for similar from Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
Would he be allowed to speak to Cardiff / Plymouth without the owners permission though?fenaddick said:Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either0 -
I mean that’s definitely not true, he’s clearly a good manager and now has a couple of promotions on his CV. Would easily be hired at league 1 level even if he goes to Cardiff now and gets sacked halfway through the seasonThe Red Robin said:If he went to Cardiff now after getting us promoted and failed no one would touch him again1 -
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If he leaves now, no Charlton fan would want himCallumcafc said:Here’s what will happen:
Jones will go to Cardiff and get sacked by Tan in November after they lose their third game in a row against Northampton (they would go up via playoffs if they kept him).
Charlton are struggling in the Championship. 23rd at Christmas. Whichever poor bloke comes in after Jones is let go as well.
Mid-January and Jones comes back grovelling saying it was a stupid decision to leave. We rehire him and stay up.
Then he leaves next summer for the newly relegated Sunderland.
back. That said, can’t see it.0 -
Jones is going nowhere.
1, 3 years left on his contract
2, no doubt trousered a nice increase for promotion
3, one promotion from the Premier League
4, Dropping down a division
This is a total non-starter.12 -
Made an approach could mean an email, contacted could be a text. He's not going anywhere. Stop panicking.7
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Richie Wellens will get his championship job if in the highly unlikely case, Jones goes, which he won’t, cause Tan is a fucking lunatic0
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Almost certainly would have.Woodwork said:
When Jones went for the Millwall job, one reason he didn’t get it was the fact that he asked for a release clause. No idea if he asked for similar from Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
Would he be allowed to speak to Cardiff / Plymouth without the owners permission though?fenaddick said:Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either0 -
Whatever happens I just hope it happens quickly because I cannot be arsed with all this again and as a club we do not have any time to be wasting.I’m not particularly arsed if Jones stays or goes I’m more concerned about the replacement and these budget comments again.3
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Like you’ve always said Elfie…….it’s all down to the money.ElfsborgAddick said:Jones is going nowhere.
1, 3 years left on his contract
2, no doubt trousered a nice increase for promotion
3, one promotion from the Premier League
4, Dropping down a division
This is a total non-starter.2 -
If posters on here had a good track record of always being right, I'd rest easy, but I won't until Cardiff have a new manager in place that isn't Jones. Logic doesn't come into it sometimes, but I suppose with him bring such a rational level headed guy, I'm worrying unnecessarily.1
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Give it to Bowyer and he will bring back Chuks8
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For those saying, if they were a manager of a newly promoted championship club, but would be happy to drop down a division if Charlton came knocking, here's a scemario.
The year is 2016 and you've just won at Wembley with Barnsley, (beating the spanners 3-1). The Addicks have just been relegated. They approach you to become their new boss. They are owned by a very dislikable character, that doesn't want to invest in the squad, thinks he knows better than the manager regarding appointments and looks to switch managers every 6 months.
Would you honestly say you'd take it? I certainly wouldn't.
I realise their owner isn't the same as the rat, but he's hardly a stable character.1 -
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In the version of that story I’d heard it was a clause that allowed him to speak with top half Championship clubs. It’s probably all bollocks anyway.Woodwork said:
When Jones went for the Millwall job, one reason he didn’t get it was the fact that he asked for a release clause. No idea if he asked for similar from Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
Would he be allowed to speak to Cardiff / Plymouth without the owners permission though?fenaddick said:Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either0 -
Jones will be our manager when next season starts.
Beyond that I have no idea.3 -
If they are actually interested in Jones then the owner is definitely still investing. He won’t be cheap if they do get himtangoflash said:For those saying, if they were a manager of a newly promoted championship club, but would be happy to drop down a division if Charlton came knocking, here's a scemario.
The year is 2016 and you've just won at Wembley with Barnsley, (beating the spanners 3-1). The Addicks have just been relegated. They approach you to become their new boss. They are owned by a very dislikable character, that doesn't want to invest in the squad, thinks he knows better than the manager regarding appointments and looks to switch managers every 6 months.
Would you honestly say you'd take it? I certainly wouldn't.
I realise their owner isn't the same as the rat, but he's hardly a stable character.0 -
I’ve no doubt the interest is there from Cardiff and if they stayed up I’d be 50/50 on whether he’d go there or not.
With them in league 1 though I can’t really see it happening. Plymouth is a complete non starter.If we’re going to be somewhat successful in the next few years we better get used to speculation around our manager and better players.2 -
Have we considered the involvement of AI?
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He's still bitter about Southampton and he's still bitter about Stoke. Its the guys nature.Braziliance said:
Doesn't matter to me. He said he would never turn down Cardiff. If he's a man of his word, he will go if they approach.killerandflash said:
Jones left Luton to move upwards, not downwards. Cardiff isn't an attractive proposition at the moment.Braziliance said:Even though I think it would be a backwards move, and it would be ridiculous after what he has achieved. If he is approached and they are willing to pay, he's gone imo.
He has left Luton twice with arguably more of a connection to them than us for better opportunities and if he's a man of his word, he would leave for Cardiff, hard to ignore this quote.
If I was a Champ manager, and my club in the league below offered me, and I knew I could get them promoted, while paying me similar or potentially more, I'd be off.
I'm just hoping they haven't approached him cause I think he will be off.
He's still bitter about the November period, he still mentions it, and he has openly said on numerous occasions Cardiff is his dream job.
He may go, if he is not backed, but everything points to him being backed, after turning around a nutjob of a club. But why would he go to a nutjob of a club that Cardiff is. Yes her said he would not turn them down, but he never said his agent wouldn't and did he swear that on the bible.1 -
You wonder if this is being put out there to leverage the owners’ transfer kitty.Either way, it’s not a comfortable situation. We’ve had so much shite behind the scenes I’d rather a boring summer with purely recruitment.
Also, the last two league one promotions have been derailed by lack of boardroom support.Please not again. I don’t think this is that btw.1 -
I heard it was very much on Jones’ terms & basically allowed him to walk away as he pleased. And so Millwall decided to pass, even though Jones made the last two & was probably the preferred choice, all things being equal.se9addick said:
In the version of that story I’d heard it was a clause that allowed him to speak with top half Championship clubs. It’s probably all bollocks anyway.Woodwork said:
When Jones went for the Millwall job, one reason he didn’t get it was the fact that he asked for a release clause. No idea if he asked for similar from Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:
Would he be allowed to speak to Cardiff / Plymouth without the owners permission though?fenaddick said:Not impossible he’s trying to put a bit of pressure on owners for more of a transfer kitty either0 -
Good sleuthing elsewhere
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Unless it’s on the official site 🤔Rothko said:Good sleuthing elsewhere
I’ve heard that somewhere before. Must be the same person.1
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