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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history. 
  • Amos on the wing
    Amos on the wing
    Silly (pre) season has started.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    Brownie12 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history. 
    I think a certain Mr L Taylor takes that title. 
    At this point maybe.
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork
    edited May 31
    For those interested:

    Cardiff City have spent 17 seasons in the top flight. Highest finish being 2nd. 

    Charlton have spent 26 seasons in the top flight. Highest finish being 2nd. 

    Both have won the FA Cup & Charlton have been runners-up once, Cardiff City twice. Cardiff City have also been League Cup runners-up.

    Cardiff City’s historic average attendance is 15,626. Charlton’s historic average attendance is 15,360. 

    However, Cardiff City have played 10 seasons of Division Four football, compared to Charlton’s zero. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon
    Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
  • sam3110
    sam3110
    Look he'd be stupid to go, but if he does, whatever, it will be career suicide for a man who's already been labelled by many in the game as a nutcase who can't manage above this level. Unless he manages to take all the backroom staff with him, including the good doctor, Fleming and Chappie, which is incredibly unlikely, then I am confident that we'll find a suitable replacement, maybe one that doesn't get hung up so much on what was said about him 7 months ago when we were fucking shit.
  • Mametz
    Mametz
    As a Charlton supporter who lives in Cardiff I would seriously question the assertion that Cardiff is a bigger club than Charlton. There have spent a total of 2 years in the Premier League, being relegated twice at the first opportunity. In total, we have spent longer and have been more successful in the top division. Unlike us they have also spent time at the fourth level
    . 
     Like us, their main claim to glory is that they have once won the FA Cup, in their case as long ago as 1927.

    There ground is modern and holds about 33,000. Their average crowd last season was just over 19,000 in the Championship, about 1000 mote than us in League One. I suspect that had we started the season anywhere near the top end of the league our average attendance would have exceeded theirs.

    The unknown thing here is Jones himself, and the relationship with our owners and board. They showed faith in him when under some pressure from the our crowd when things got wobbly in the autumn and early winter. He is a Cardiff man and clearly a patriotic Welshman. However he is no longer a young man and we will start next season ahead of Cardiff. There is also the suspicion the Vincent Tan can be a difficult owner. The deciding factor could be if he feels our board will back him.
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick
    My guess is their fans are putting 2+2 together and getting 5. They’ve seen what a great job he’s done here so why wouldn’t they want him? In reality he’d be taking a backwards step. He didn’t go mid season when we were in bad form so why would he go now when we’ve just been promoted?
  • swordfish
    swordfish
    I'm not ruling it out, regardless of how illogical it might seem. Heart over head. Not everyday the opportunity to manage the club you support comes along, and it might not again. I'm just hoping he's not their prime target, but they're taking ages to make a new managerial appointment, which did make me wonder if they were waiting for our season to end before coming in for him.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick
    Croydon said:
    Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
    I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance posted 
  • iaitch
    iaitch
    sam3110 said:
    Look he'd be stupid to go, but if he does, whatever, it will be career suicide for a man who's already been labelled by many in the game as a nutcase who can't manage above this level. Unless he manages to take all the backroom staff with him, including the good doctor, Fleming and Chappie, which is incredibly unlikely, then I am confident that we'll find a suitable replacement, maybe one that doesn't get hung up so much on what was said about him 7 months ago when we were fucking shit.
    He seems to love the glory when we're winning but can't take any criticism when we're terrible. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history. 
    I can’t see it happening. But surely as football fans we can’t really hate someone too much for going to manage the club they support? Something we’d probably all do in the same position. It would be very frustrating yes but he has also just delivered us a promotion that we desperately needed 
  • Croydon
    Croydon
    Danny Addick said:
    Croydon said:
    Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
    I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance posted 
    The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru
    One thing we can be certain about. This will resolve quite quickly one way or another. Neither club can hang around with the season already looming. Charlton won’t let it drag on as we would need to find a replacement in very little time. Still think it’s nonsense though.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted
    Croydon said:
    Danny Addick said:
    Croydon said:
    Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
    I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance posted 
    The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.
    Apart from the follow up, where someone tries to be clever by putting a name that rhymes with "Nathan Jones"

    Which the journalist teasingly plays off rather than offering a flat out "No"

    Could be read in two ways; (1) He cant confirm, because its true and cant say (2) He wont confirm because he wants the attention
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks
    After watching 5 years of league 1 football not sure even being a boyhood fan of any club would convince me to drop back into that division. Unless their owner is going to buy the division like Ipswich/Birmingham then I wouldn’t understand the risk. 

    Cardiff last four league seasons in championship; 18th, 21st, 12th & 24th. Not sure I see the appeal whatsoever.



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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood
    Croydon said:
    Danny Addick said:
    Croydon said:
    Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
    I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance posted 
    The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.
    The same journalist that made the article liked a post in response to his orginal tweet saying it screamed of Cardiff going in for Nathan Jones he’s basically indirectly said it’s him they’re looking at 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance
    edited May 31
    Croydon said:
    Danny Addick said:
    Croydon said:
    Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
    I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance posted 
    The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.
    It isn't just that. It's the timing of the tweet with members of their message boards saying that Cardiff have definitely been in contact with Jones. Seems like there's a bit of smoke, especially with their journo hinting it would be a manager that a lot of the fan base would be happy with, but there are complexities. All their other candidates seem to be unemployed, so I don't see how the likes of Buckingham, Evatt etc could be complex.



    End of the day, it's a speculation thread. If he goes, he goes. We will move on. 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet
    Personally think this is bollocks, however this is Charlton we’re talking about 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil
    edited May 31
    Could have seen it back in September when they sacked Bulot, although whether Jones's stock was too low for them to consider it I'm not sure.

    But not now we've gone up and they've gone down - a step down, think Tan will be cutting costs and not paying compensation, and Jones is building something here.

    Frankly if he starts well for us next season he could do better than Cardiff.
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks
    DaveMehmet said:
    Personally think this is bollocks, however this is Charlton we’re talking about 
    I 100% can understand why NJ could be their number 1 choice for the job. That bit makes perfect sense. Everything else is just noise atmo. 
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history. 
    Why ? We get someone new …
    and that’s Lyle Taylor !!
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Crispywood said:
    Jones odds for manager gone 33/1 to 7/4
    Go put a grand on Buckingham to be the next Manager and watch the odds drop like crazy

    You'll never find a poor bookie...
    True

    But you have to have a reason to put a grand on Buckingham in the first place right? I mean you ain't just throwing a grand away for no reason 

    For NJ to go into 7/4 are Cardiff fans just putting money on him in hope rather than expectation or do they genuinely believe he is the guy they are after
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick
    He’s clearly the man of the moment after doing well and being a high profile name. Would imagine any compensation for him would be quite high 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted
    paulie8290 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Crispywood said:
    Jones odds for manager gone 33/1 to 7/4
    Go put a grand on Buckingham to be the next Manager and watch the odds drop like crazy

    You'll never find a poor bookie...
    True

    But you have to have a reason to put a grand on Buckingham in the first place right? I mean you ain't just throwing a grand away for no reason 

    For NJ to go into 7/4 are Cardiff fans just putting money on him in hope rather than expectation or do they genuinely believe he is the guy they are after
    Yeah true, depends which came first...

    Was he 33/1 until this Journalist tweeted, which led to people to flood the market

    Or was it the other way around
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