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Nathan Jones speculation - Cawley says indications are no chance Jones going to Cardiff (p20)
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I'd drive him there myself.........
Said by many after losing to Crawley at home.5 -
I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history.0
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Silly (pre) season has started.4
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I think a certain Mr L Taylor takes that title.ShootersHillGuru said:I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history.8 -
At this point maybe.Brownie12 said:
I think a certain Mr L Taylor takes that title.ShootersHillGuru said:I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history.0 -
For those interested:
Cardiff City have spent 17 seasons in the top flight. Highest finish being 2nd.Charlton have spent 26 seasons in the top flight. Highest finish being 2nd.Both have won the FA Cup & Charlton have been runners-up once, Cardiff City twice. Cardiff City have also been League Cup runners-up.
Cardiff City’s historic average attendance is 15,626. Charlton’s historic average attendance is 15,360.However, Cardiff City have played 10 seasons of Division Four football, compared to Charlton’s zero.2 -
If only we had a local paper with a high quality journalist able to report on this7
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Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.4
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Look he'd be stupid to go, but if he does, whatever, it will be career suicide for a man who's already been labelled by many in the game as a nutcase who can't manage above this level. Unless he manages to take all the backroom staff with him, including the good doctor, Fleming and Chappie, which is incredibly unlikely, then I am confident that we'll find a suitable replacement, maybe one that doesn't get hung up so much on what was said about him 7 months ago when we were fucking shit.0
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As a Charlton supporter who lives in Cardiff I would seriously question the assertion that Cardiff is a bigger club than Charlton. There have spent a total of 2 years in the Premier League, being relegated twice at the first opportunity. In total, we have spent longer and have been more successful in the top division. Unlike us they have also spent time at the fourth level
.Like us, their main claim to glory is that they have once won the FA Cup, in their case as long ago as 1927.
There ground is modern and holds about 33,000. Their average crowd last season was just over 19,000 in the Championship, about 1000 mote than us in League One. I suspect that had we started the season anywhere near the top end of the league our average attendance would have exceeded theirs.
The unknown thing here is Jones himself, and the relationship with our owners and board. They showed faith in him when under some pressure from the our crowd when things got wobbly in the autumn and early winter. He is a Cardiff man and clearly a patriotic Welshman. However he is no longer a young man and we will start next season ahead of Cardiff. There is also the suspicion the Vincent Tan can be a difficult owner. The deciding factor could be if he feels our board will back him.4 -
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My guess is their fans are putting 2+2 together and getting 5. They’ve seen what a great job he’s done here so why wouldn’t they want him? In reality he’d be taking a backwards step. He didn’t go mid season when we were in bad form so why would he go now when we’ve just been promoted?4
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Go put a grand on Buckingham to be the next Manager and watch the odds drop like crazyCrispywood said:Jones odds for manager gone 33/1 to 7/4
You'll never find a poor bookie...6 -
I'm not ruling it out, regardless of how illogical it might seem. Heart over head. Not everyday the opportunity to manage the club you support comes along, and it might not again. I'm just hoping he's not their prime target, but they're taking ages to make a new managerial appointment, which did make me wonder if they were waiting for our season to end before coming in for him.1
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I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance postedCroydon said:Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.1 -
He seems to love the glory when we're winning but can't take any criticism when we're terrible.sam3110 said:Look he'd be stupid to go, but if he does, whatever, it will be career suicide for a man who's already been labelled by many in the game as a nutcase who can't manage above this level. Unless he manages to take all the backroom staff with him, including the good doctor, Fleming and Chappie, which is incredibly unlikely, then I am confident that we'll find a suitable replacement, maybe one that doesn't get hung up so much on what was said about him 7 months ago when we were fucking shit.2 -
I can’t see it happening. But surely as football fans we can’t really hate someone too much for going to manage the club they support? Something we’d probably all do in the same position. It would be very frustrating yes but he has also just delivered us a promotion that we desperately neededShootersHillGuru said:I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history.0 -
The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.Danny Addick said:
I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance postedCroydon said:Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.0 -
One thing we can be certain about. This will resolve quite quickly one way or another. Neither club can hang around with the season already looming. Charlton won’t let it drag on as we would need to find a replacement in very little time. Still think it’s nonsense though.0
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Apart from the follow up, where someone tries to be clever by putting a name that rhymes with "Nathan Jones"Croydon said:
The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.Danny Addick said:
I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance postedCroydon said:Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
Which the journalist teasingly plays off rather than offering a flat out "No"
Could be read in two ways; (1) He cant confirm, because its true and cant say (2) He wont confirm because he wants the attention3 -
After watching 5 years of league 1 football not sure even being a boyhood fan of any club would convince me to drop back into that division. Unless their owner is going to buy the division like Ipswich/Birmingham then I wouldn’t understand the risk.Cardiff last four league seasons in championship; 18th, 21st, 12th & 24th. Not sure I see the appeal whatsoever.1
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The same journalist that made the article liked a post in response to his orginal tweet saying it screamed of Cardiff going in for Nathan Jones he’s basically indirectly said it’s him they’re looking atCroydon said:
The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.Danny Addick said:
I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance postedCroydon said:Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.3 -
It isn't just that. It's the timing of the tweet with members of their message boards saying that Cardiff have definitely been in contact with Jones. Seems like there's a bit of smoke, especially with their journo hinting it would be a manager that a lot of the fan base would be happy with, but there are complexities. All their other candidates seem to be unemployed, so I don't see how the likes of Buckingham, Evatt etc could be complex.Croydon said:
The tweet that makes no mention of Jones whatsoever? Righto.Danny Addick said:
I think the concern comes from that tweet from a journalist that @Braziliance postedCroydon said:Zero chance he goes there now. People worrying over nothing based off some words in an old interview.
End of the day, it's a speculation thread. If he goes, he goes. We will move on.0 -
Personally think this is bollocks, however this is Charlton we’re talking about4
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Could have seen it back in September when they sacked Bulot, although whether Jones's stock was too low for them to consider it I'm not sure.
But not now we've gone up and they've gone down - a step down, think Tan will be cutting costs and not paying compensation, and Jones is building something here.
Frankly if he starts well for us next season he could do better than Cardiff.0 -
I 100% can understand why NJ could be their number 1 choice for the job. That bit makes perfect sense. Everything else is just noise atmo.DaveMehmet said:Personally think this is bollocks, however this is Charlton we’re talking about0 -
https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/next-manager.133013/page-70#post-2755178
Plymouth reckon he’s in the running there as well.17 -
Why ? We get someone new …ShootersHillGuru said:I think it’s all rubbish. I believe that Cardiff might want him but that it’s rubbish he’s going to leave. He’d be the most hated man in Charlton history.
and that’s Lyle Taylor !!0 -
TrueForeverAddickted said:
Go put a grand on Buckingham to be the next Manager and watch the odds drop like crazyCrispywood said:Jones odds for manager gone 33/1 to 7/4
You'll never find a poor bookie...
But you have to have a reason to put a grand on Buckingham in the first place right? I mean you ain't just throwing a grand away for no reason
For NJ to go into 7/4 are Cardiff fans just putting money on him in hope rather than expectation or do they genuinely believe he is the guy they are after1 -
He’s clearly the man of the moment after doing well and being a high profile name. Would imagine any compensation for him would be quite high0
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Yeah true, depends which came first...paulie8290 said:
TrueForeverAddickted said:
Go put a grand on Buckingham to be the next Manager and watch the odds drop like crazyCrispywood said:Jones odds for manager gone 33/1 to 7/4
You'll never find a poor bookie...
But you have to have a reason to put a grand on Buckingham in the first place right? I mean you ain't just throwing a grand away for no reason
For NJ to go into 7/4 are Cardiff fans just putting money on him in hope rather than expectation or do they genuinely believe he is the guy they are after
Was he 33/1 until this Journalist tweeted, which led to people to flood the market
Or was it the other way around3
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