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Thierry Small - signed a 4 year deal with Preston (p36)

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,542
    Woodwork said:
    Swisdom said:
    as I’ve said before the difference now is Thierry has an agent working for Thierry not himself.  John Fortune is likely to be thinking what’s best for Thierry which is probably to stay at Charlton whereas his previous agent would literally have sold him to the highest bidder.

    However the last I heard we were paying him absolute peanuts which doesn’t bode well because I’m pretty sure ANY offer will be a significant increase and may turn his head. We really should have got him to sign last summer or cashed in!
    If Derby County, for example, came in, it sounds like they could easily double his wages. And that would be in his best interests really. 
    Maybe in his best short term financial interest, but I wouldn't personally say it was in his overall best interest longterm.

    You often hear talk about players moving for more money like it's a foregone conclusion, but there are plenty of cases where a player has stayed put, be it long or short term, despite being offered more elsewhere. And it’s not just in football — you see it in every work environment. Some people clearly have opportunities to earn more money if they go elsewhere or step up the ladder, yet they choose to stay put for a variety of other reasons.
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Woodwork said:
    Swisdom said:
    as I’ve said before the difference now is Thierry has an agent working for Thierry not himself.  John Fortune is likely to be thinking what’s best for Thierry which is probably to stay at Charlton whereas his previous agent would literally have sold him to the highest bidder.

    However the last I heard we were paying him absolute peanuts which doesn’t bode well because I’m pretty sure ANY offer will be a significant increase and may turn his head. We really should have got him to sign last summer or cashed in!
    If Derby County, for example, came in, it sounds like they could easily double his wages. And that would be in his best interests really. 
    Yes he could watch their games from the stands with CBT.
    If he doesn’t back himself to get into one of the weaker Championship sides, he may not have the mentality to make it at that level & yes, should stay in League One, even if we go up. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,926
    be great if he re signs for next year but all i really care about now is that he is fit and ready for tomorrow as our squad doesn't have a replacement - its well documented how 1 dimensional we become when only TC is able to run at defences - i genuinely think its game over if he is injured   
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,782
    edited May 14
    Woodwork said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Woodwork said:
    Swisdom said:
    as I’ve said before the difference now is Thierry has an agent working for Thierry not himself.  John Fortune is likely to be thinking what’s best for Thierry which is probably to stay at Charlton whereas his previous agent would literally have sold him to the highest bidder.

    However the last I heard we were paying him absolute peanuts which doesn’t bode well because I’m pretty sure ANY offer will be a significant increase and may turn his head. We really should have got him to sign last summer or cashed in!
    If Derby County, for example, came in, it sounds like they could easily double his wages. And that would be in his best interests really. 
    Yes he could watch their games from the stands with CBT.
    If he doesn’t back himself to get into one of the weaker Championship sides, he may not have the mentality to make it at that level & yes, should stay in League One, even if we go up. 
    It can sometimes be a bit more complicated than that. He can have some poor games with us and we stick with him. He can have a manager that doesn't play to his strengths or fancy him. He has a solid base here and a championship offer will be less attractive if we make him an offer after going up. He will expect us not to take the piss with that and if we had yellow teeth still in charge, we would absolutely lose him but I suspect he may be staying. 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,722
    DOUCHER said:
    be great if he re signs for next year but all i really care about now is that he is fit and ready for tomorrow as our squad doesn't have a replacement - its well documented how 1 dimensional we become when only TC is able to run at defences - i genuinely think its game over if he is injured   
    winning will be easier if he plays at least an hour
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 637
    CafcSCP said:
    Regardless of the league, it depends on what is on the table from Charlton.
    Djiksteel, Aribo and Bauer all left. Obviously they were RD days but I think they’d have left regardless.
    Maybe the other 2, but the Bauer situation isn't dissimilar to what could have been with Lloyd Jones (a better cb IMO), but instead we signed him up in February, so think times are a little better now.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    Lets approach the elephant in the room - No excuses now Thierry, sign that new deal... We're a Championship club, you know you love it here!!
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Lets approach the elephant in the room - No excuses now Thierry, sign that new deal... We're a Championship club, you know you love it here!!
    This will be tough to swallow , especially if he goes to Bermondsey 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,032
    I'd be surprised if he didn't sign a new deal now. I entirely understand that he wanted, indeed needed to be playing Championship football next season, but we can offer him that now. We're by far the best option in his career for next season, a step up in an environment where he's comfortable and loved.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    killerandflash said:
    I'd be surprised if he didn't sign a new deal now. I entirely understand that he wanted, indeed needed to be playing Championship football next season, but we can offer him that now. We're by far the best option in his career for next season, a step up in an environment where he's comfortable and loved.
    I think that’s true now - guaranteed to play every week.  But .. if someone else offers to treble his wages 

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,761
    wmcf123 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Lets approach the elephant in the room - No excuses now Thierry, sign that new deal... We're a Championship club, you know you love it here!!
    This will be tough to swallow , especially if he goes to Bermondsey 
    Cawley has already squashed that rumour thankfully 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,886
    If he goes, Nathan and Phil will find someone better and sign them. It’s Thierry’s choice.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,666
    I suppose it also depends on if he’s already agreed something elsewhere. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,012
    wmcf123 said:
    killerandflash said:
    I'd be surprised if he didn't sign a new deal now. I entirely understand that he wanted, indeed needed to be playing Championship football next season, but we can offer him that now. We're by far the best option in his career for next season, a step up in an environment where he's comfortable and loved.
    I think that’s true now - guaranteed to play every week.  But .. if someone else offers to treble his wages 
    That's the issue for me, he'll be in demand from well established Championship clubs who will see him as a great punt given his age and the fact he'll only cost compensation.  They'll be able to offer him much better wages.

    Hope I'm wrong but I still think he'll leave.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,516
    Still think he's gone. But would be massive if he did decide to renew. 
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,922
    Snide if he leaves now
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,666
    Of course I would like him to stay but its worth remembering that he won’t find as much space and freedom in The Championship as he does in league one. Will he be as effective ? I doubt it. He’s young and I could easily be wrong but I’m not convinced he’s a desperate loss should he decide to depart. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,460
    Spoke to an old boy on the train that said he had heard Thierry wanted to see if we would be promoted and believed he'd sign another year as we were. Fingers crossed. 
  • bromdog
    bromdog Posts: 133
    Was walking down Wembley way about 5.30, fans asked him if he was signing on and nervously laughed! Personally I think he will go home and back to Brum. Will be gutted!
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,238
    bromdog said:
    Was walking down Wembley way about 5.30, fans asked him if he was signing on and nervously laughed! Personally I think he will go home and back to Brum. Will be gutted!
    Birmingham can and will sign better. They don't need to shop cheap.

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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,012
    bromdog said:
    Was walking down Wembley way about 5.30, fans asked him if he was signing on and nervously laughed! Personally I think he will go home and back to Brum. Will be gutted!
    West Brom would be more 'back home' I guess.
  • bromdog
    bromdog Posts: 133
    Yeah either or, he’s got a couple of midlands clubs to chose from. Doesn’t financial rules change in Champ too? Obviously a low risk free signing for someone 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,666
    He goes elsewhere and I think he can expect to sit on the bench. He stays with us and I’d reasonably expect him to carry on where he’s left off. He’s exciting but frustratingly unproductive in his crossing and decisions. His choice and I expect him to go.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,516
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    He goes elsewhere and I think he can expect to sit on the bench. He stays with us and I’d reasonably expect him to carry on where he’s left off. He’s exciting but frustratingly unproductive in his crossing and decisions. His choice and I expect him to go.
    Think he'll see the offers from higher up in the Championship being 5-10k (at least) higher a week than our offer and he'll be off. 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,090
    He'd best staying here. He blows hot and cold with decision making and that will improve with game time
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,769
    North Lower Neil said:
    bromdog said:
    Was walking down Wembley way about 5.30, fans asked him if he was signing on and nervously laughed! Personally I think he will go home and back to Brum. Will be gutted!
    West Brom would be more 'back home' I guess.
    If he goes, he will leave on a high and get a cheer from me, he has been a big part of us turning our fortunes around.

    Like all, I really hope he stays, but I can totally see him playing for West Brom. It seems to fit.

    He's not irreplaceable though and as others have alluded to, I totally back our manager to replace him with at least equal talent if not better.
  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    He won't stay.  He doesn't want to play right wing, he wants to play full back but can't get in the team in that position.  He will go looking for a full back position at another (Championship if possible) club.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,763
    I love the bloke but he's not irreplaceable. More concerned about keeping hold of Ramsay 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,122
    RC_CAFC said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    bromdog said:
    Was walking down Wembley way about 5.30, fans asked him if he was signing on and nervously laughed! Personally I think he will go home and back to Brum. Will be gutted!
    West Brom would be more 'back home' I guess.
    If he goes, he will leave on a high and get a cheer from me, he has been a big part of us turning our fortunes around.

    Like all, I really hope he stays, but I can totally see him playing for West Brom. It seems to fit.

    He's not irreplaceable though and as others have alluded to, I totally back our manager to replace him with at least equal talent if not better.
    WBA will come down to who their new manager is , appears Ryan Mason is in talks. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,785
    Whatever he chooses has had a cracking season. Hope he stays. If he goes he will always be part of the team that got us promotion. For that he has my thanks.

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