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  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    LargeAddick said:
    You’d have thought that somewhere there would have been some joined up thinking and once we’d sold out Wembley immediately released a further 6/8k to us. I thought that was the reason why Orient were selling block by block inching towards the halfway line so we could sweep up the unsold tickets.

    I’m sure we will get more if only because the EFL will want to maximise their cut.
    Yeah. Can't fathom a delay with so many unsold tickets around the stadium. Next batch should really come online tomorrow am, surely!
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    edited May 20
    they must have the potential (however unlikely) to sell out based on the numbers on their database or otherwise surely they would have released a chunk of tickets to us - doesn't suit anybody to not sell tickets that could be sold - i'm sure we will get a big chunk more, probably thursday once they gauge their sales tomorrow
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    edited May 20
    AndyG said:
    Anyone else feeling a massive sense of pride at the speed we have sold our allocation ? 

    COYRS

    Its great but also would like to get to see the match. Looking for when and if additional tickets become available. 
    This thread apart from that has gone slightly crazy - UK US franchises - what's that got to do with the thread ? Orient fans allegedly getting angsty about Charlton supporters in there block. Orient have 37k allocation. If they have not sold whole blocks then release the unsold tickets, then there will be no Charlton in those blocks !!!
    Will be having to dip into this thread to find updated information unfortunatley, God help me. Hoping the thread doesn't fill up with too much random posts.
    Hoping that sanity prevails (unlikely on this thread currently) and that empty seats can be sold at the current level of priority (not going on general sale) - to supporters of one of the participating teams that have demand for tickets.
  • captainbob
    captainbob Posts: 941
    shine166 said:
    Braziliance said:
    Without being rude, is this image AI? 

    It's just I've never seen it before and something about it looks.. off? The colouring etc.


    Almost certainly AI, it's definitely the same lad twice.
    Was that a tongue in cheek observation?
  • stockportaddick
    stockportaddick Posts: 1,135
    7dave said:
    What a day , got in queue at 13:30, over 5000 in front, got into site trying to find 2 together and each pair I found became not available, then tried for 2 close together , same result then within seconds sold out. Kept refreshing and missing out, agreed with better half to just try for 1 , logged back in and got a pair with just one seat between. Up in the gods , 1 more row and would be outside the stadium but so relieved, feel for those still trying. Hopefully club will avoid general sale with extras until all registered are sorted.
    Your day mirrored my own but now I know which git pipped me to those two tickets!  ;)
  • tallboy
    tallboy Posts: 115
    edited May 20
    Woodwork said:
    Uboat said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    There’s an ‘if’ doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in that post. 
    Not really.

    Because the point is, there are easily enough foreign vistitors and floating football fans living in and around London to make an American style franchise football club a reality these days. Most PL clubs are reducing season ticket holders so that they can cash in on football tourists (UK & foreign based ones). 

    I am not literally talking about Bromley or even Earls Court Rovers (😂) specifically. I am making a point about modern football crowds. 
    I think he's identified something that has been bugging me. Having started revisiting The Valley after a few years break i've been telling anyone that will listen (normally by trapping them in a corner) that something has changed in the composition of Charlton's home crowds that isn't solely explained by the recent improvements in the teams performance.

    Compared to approx. 10 years ago  the crowd seems to be comprised of more visiting foreign tourists, more groups of younger, occasional visitors, lots of 'first time visitor' kids names displays on the message board, lots of people visiting who don't seem to be  'hard core/single club' football supporters but who won't/cant pay premium prices for a Monday night Premiership match at Arsenal, West Ham, Spurs etc.

    The population of Greenwich and London has altered in the last 25 years, it's become more cosmopolitan, more concentrated in the 18-35 age group and possibly more fluid and flexible in their leisure choices.

    Not sure if it's good or bad for the future of CAFC but it's definitely different.


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  • tallboy
    tallboy Posts: 115
    cafcsinger said:
    Incidentally I'm finding the 'billy big bollocks Charlton are massive and Orient are tinpot' comments (mainly on twitter) in poor taste. I don't have any strong feelings for them either way but they are a proper club whose supporters have had a relatively tough time like us, they have a likeable manager and they could all easily support West Ham, or other bigger London clubs but don't. We're really not that dissimilar to them in some ways.

    I think they will also revel in the underdog story which worries me even more about Sundays game if we start giving it the big un. 
    Probably the first time Richie Wellens has been called 'likeable'. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    tallboy said:
    Woodwork said:
    Uboat said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    There’s an ‘if’ doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in that post. 
    Not really.

    Because the point is, there are easily enough foreign vistitors and floating football fans living in and around London to make an American style franchise football club a reality these days. Most PL clubs are reducing season ticket holders so that they can cash in on football tourists (UK & foreign based ones). 

    I am not literally talking about Bromley or even Earls Court Rovers (😂) specifically. I am making a point about modern football crowds. 
    I think he's identified something that has been bugging me. Having started revisiting The Valley after a few years break i've been telling anyone that will listen (normally by trapping them in a corner) that something has changed in the composition of Charlton's home crowds that isn't solely explained by the recent improvements in the teams performance.

    Compared to add approx. 10 years ago  the crowd seems to be comprised of more visiting foreign tourists, more groups of younger, occasional visitors, lots of 'first time visitor' kids names displays on the message board, lots of people visiting who don't seem to be  'hard core/single club' football supporters but who won't/cant pay premium prices for a Monday night Premiership match at Arsenal, West Ham, Spurs etc.

    The population of Greenwich and London has altered in the last 25 years, it's become more cosmopolitan, more concentrated in the 18-35 age group and possibly more fluid and flexible in their leisure choices.

    Not sure if it's good or bad for the future of CAFC but it's definitely different.


    Where exactly in the ground have you noticed this?
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    PWR - Probably mentioned on the thread
    From Orient official site
    https://www.leytonorient.com/news/2025/may/20/update-on-sky-bet-league-one-play-off-final-tickets/ - Orient supporters buying tickets need to be registered on Orient site, similarly to Charlton. It says to stop Charlton supporters buying tickets but also means that WHU or other clubs can't buy, so ultimately a good thing. As a Charlton supporter, would not want to sit in an Orient section. Imagine Charlton scoring and not being able to celebrate like crazy ????

    When can (Orient supporters) buy?

    From 10am on Tuesday, 20 May: 24/25 Season Card Holders (6 tickets per SCH) and OneOrient Plus Members (3 tickets per member)

    From 10am on Wednesday 21st May to 5pm Friday 23rd May: All fans on database before May 19th (6 tickets per person)

    Orient will be in their away grey kit for Wembley

    ------
    Fingers crossed that more tickets become available for Charlton supporters very soon.

  • tallboy
    tallboy Posts: 115
    superclive98 said:
    tallboy said:
    Woodwork said:
    Uboat said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    There’s an ‘if’ doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in that post. 
    Not really.

    Because the point is, there are easily enough foreign vistitors and floating football fans living in and around London to make an American style franchise football club a reality these days. Most PL clubs are reducing season ticket holders so that they can cash in on football tourists (UK & foreign based ones). 

    I am not literally talking about Bromley or even Earls Court Rovers (😂) specifically. I am making a point about modern football crowds. 
    I think he's identified something that has been bugging me. Having started revisiting The Valley after a few years break i've been telling anyone that will listen (normally by trapping them in a corner) that something has changed in the composition of Charlton's home crowds that isn't solely explained by the recent improvements in the teams performance.

    Compared to add approx. 10 years ago  the crowd seems to be comprised of more visiting foreign tourists, more groups of younger, occasional visitors, lots of 'first time visitor' kids names displays on the message board, lots of people visiting who don't seem to be  'hard core/single club' football supporters but who won't/cant pay premium prices for a Monday night Premiership match at Arsenal, West Ham, Spurs etc.

    The population of Greenwich and London has altered in the last 25 years, it's become more cosmopolitan, more concentrated in the 18-35 age group and possibly more fluid and flexible in their leisure choices.

    Not sure if it's good or bad for the future of CAFC but it's definitely different.


    Where exactly in the ground have you noticed this?
    West Stand. Back there regularly with a season ticket for last six months after about a 10 year break. 

    Whilst the West stand crowd probably  can't be used as an indicator of the make up of the whole crowd the increase in casual, foreign visitors is noticeable. Also, I've noticed small groups of young foreign men and women that re-appear every second or third match suggesting that they aren't tourists but maybe young workers living in London.

  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    I must say, it does feel very good actually getting tickets and a decent location. I've seen the view via Wembley site. 

    No one sitting behind us and we're right at the top.

    Mixture of relief and euphoria.

    One way or the other, it'll be a day to remember!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    Greetings fellow Spanner!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    cafcsinger said:
    Incidentally I'm finding the 'billy big bollocks Charlton are massive and Orient are tinpot' comments (mainly on twitter) in poor taste. I don't have any strong feelings for them either way but they are a proper club whose supporters have had a relatively tough time like us, they have a likeable manager and they could all easily support West Ham, or other bigger London clubs but don't. We're really not that dissimilar to them in some ways.

    I think they will also revel in the underdog story which worries me even more about Sundays game if we start giving it the big un. 
    We also have a previous manager in common :-)
  • ThrappersAddick
    ThrappersAddick Posts: 31
    Thought I'd check the trains...that's rather ballsed everything up! Engineering works on the East Coast Mainline at Hitchin and East Midlands line at Bedford. Better start walking now...
  • Rock Spectacle
    Rock Spectacle Posts: 1,441
    Coach an option, probably cheaper than the one from Charlton. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Woodwork said:
    Uboat said:
    EugenesAxe said:
    Is Woodwork AI? Does he have a twin?
    MillwallFan
    Might be a cousin tbf
    A cousin and a twin? Wouldn’t put it past Millwall fans.
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    Now you're just being silly, Bromley have been getting 2500 gates.
    I lived in Bromley for 30 years until '23 so have a reasonable knowledge of things there.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,042
    Woodwork said:
    Uboat said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    There’s an ‘if’ doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in that post. 
    Not really.

    Because the point is, there are easily enough foreign vistitors and floating football fans living in and around London to make an American style franchise football club a reality these days. Most PL clubs are reducing season ticket holders so that they can cash in on football tourists (UK & foreign based ones). 

    I am not literally talking about Bromley or even Earls Court Rovers (😂) specifically. I am making a point about modern football crowds. 
    I'll talk about Bromley, you brought them up.
    Unless you are taking the p*** now you're very wrong.
    I can go back to the mid 90's and they were getting less than 500.
    I'll not make any further comment, I have bitten.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    Fulham don't even sell out a 30k stadium most weeks. I'm not even convinced the likes of Charlton, Millwall and QPR would sell 40k most weeks, apart from the big London derbies and City/United/Liverpool if they gave about 8k to the away team.

    There is absolutely no way Bromley and Barnet are going to be filling it, these are clubs with a core support of about 3k. You'd obviously get a few who'd go just to watch PL football, but not 30k+ of them.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    cafcsinger said:
    Incidentally I'm finding the 'billy big bollocks Charlton are massive and Orient are tinpot' comments (mainly on twitter) in poor taste. I don't have any strong feelings for them either way but they are a proper club whose supporters have had a relatively tough time like us, they have a likeable manager and they could all easily support West Ham, or other bigger London clubs but don't. We're really not that dissimilar to them in some ways.

    I think they will also revel in the underdog story which worries me even more about Sundays game if we start giving it the big un. 
    Agree with this, plus although it's good to have pretty much double their support, it's going to mean very little on the day.

    Millwall had 47k of a 55k crowd v Wigan and lost.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    tallboy said:
    superclive98 said:
    tallboy said:
    Woodwork said:
    Uboat said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    There’s an ‘if’ doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in that post. 
    Not really.

    Because the point is, there are easily enough foreign vistitors and floating football fans living in and around London to make an American style franchise football club a reality these days. Most PL clubs are reducing season ticket holders so that they can cash in on football tourists (UK & foreign based ones). 

    I am not literally talking about Bromley or even Earls Court Rovers (😂) specifically. I am making a point about modern football crowds. 
    I think he's identified something that has been bugging me. Having started revisiting The Valley after a few years break i've been telling anyone that will listen (normally by trapping them in a corner) that something has changed in the composition of Charlton's home crowds that isn't solely explained by the recent improvements in the teams performance.

    Compared to add approx. 10 years ago  the crowd seems to be comprised of more visiting foreign tourists, more groups of younger, occasional visitors, lots of 'first time visitor' kids names displays on the message board, lots of people visiting who don't seem to be  'hard core/single club' football supporters but who won't/cant pay premium prices for a Monday night Premiership match at Arsenal, West Ham, Spurs etc.

    The population of Greenwich and London has altered in the last 25 years, it's become more cosmopolitan, more concentrated in the 18-35 age group and possibly more fluid and flexible in their leisure choices.

    Not sure if it's good or bad for the future of CAFC but it's definitely different.


    Where exactly in the ground have you noticed this?
    West Stand. Back there regularly with a season ticket for last six months after about a 10 year break. 

    Whilst the West stand crowd probably  can't be used as an indicator of the make up of the whole crowd the increase in casual, foreign visitors is noticeable. Also, I've noticed small groups of young foreign men and women that re-appear every second or third match suggesting that they aren't tourists but maybe young workers living in London.

    There’s lots of foreign tourists that come to our games now. Getting the train back into London after the match you really notice it. I think it’s predominantly down to the rise in ground hopping. We’re normally one of the only 3pm kick offs that you can get tickets for (without spending a fortune) in London which makes us attractive for groups that are trying to get in a number of matches over a weekend. It’s not just ground hoppers though, I think the rise of the Premier League means that a football match is on the list for lots of tourists to the U.K., again we benefit from that. It’s all good and I welcome it because we normally have 15,000 spare tickets for our matches - yet we’ve sold almost 40,000 for this one! 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Woodwork said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    I understand it's a wembley game & appreciate not everyone in attendance will be a 'proper 'fan, but the volume of tickets & the speed in which they've sold shows the fan base is still there & the potential for the club is still huge. 

    I think there's a real feel good factor around the club at the moment & the future looks bright, regardless of Sunday's result!!
    I think most medium sized London football clubs could sell 40,000 tickets for a one off, promotion decider at Wembley tbf. 

    Same as I think every London based club could get 35-40,000 most weeks in the PL, if given the stadium to do so, including Barnet and Bromley. As that is the nature of English football these days. 

    Which means I do agree with you, there is great potential. But in the Championship you have a fair few clubs that average 25-40,000 on a regular basis. So until that happens, you need owners that step up. 
    Bromley and Barnet, come on, that's taking it a bit too far.
    I honestly don’t think it is.

    Plonk Bromley in the Premier League and give them a 40,000 stadium and they will sell it out most weeks. That is where English football is at these days. In fact, the very fact they have no league history & therefore rivarlary baggage, means they’d sell it out even easier. Lots of football tourists would go, local ones & foreign ones. 

    Charlton has lots of potential. But so does any club playing inside the M25 in this modern era. Difference is, Charlton at least has a much better foundation already in place than Bromley. But that doesn’t diminish the point that if a eccentric billionaire built a 40,000 capacity stadium at Earls Court, founded a club called Earls Court Rovers and bribed the PL for a place in PL ala Arsenal style in 1919, then they could get crowds of 30-40,000 depending on fixture. It wouldn’t be the most partisan ground in the country, but it would be full. 
    Now you're just being silly, Bromley have been getting 2500 gates.
    I lived in Bromley for 30 years until '23 so have a reasonable knowledge of things there.
    Those 40000 Bromley have relocated back to Bromley since you moved to Brazil
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Uboat said:
    Like all great threads on this forum over the years, this one has now entered the mad phase. 
    The Charlton Life thread, twelve step program:

    1) Grumbling
    2) Outrage
    3) That one sensible post from Gribbo based on solid information that everyone ignores
    4) Puns
    5) Tangent
    6) It's all gone a bit weird
    7) Outrage (again)
    8) AFKA or Ali tells us all off
    9) Someone mentions brexit
    10) More puns
    11) Everyone moves on
    12) Random thread resurrection on an a loosely related subject 11 years later


  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Callumcafc said:
    Charlton are massive, everywhere we go…

    When did Charlton Athletic turn into Sheffield Wednesday 🤔
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Braziliance said:
    shine166 said:
    Braziliance said:
    Without being rude, is this image AI? 

    It's just I've never seen it before and something about it looks.. off? The colouring etc.


    Almost certainly AI, it's definitely the same lad twice.

    Didn't know Musk was Charlton
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    cafcsinger said:
    Incidentally I'm finding the 'billy big bollocks Charlton are massive and Orient are tinpot' comments (mainly on twitter) in poor taste. I don't have any strong feelings for them either way but they are a proper club whose supporters have had a relatively tough time like us, they have a likeable manager and they could all easily support West Ham, or other bigger London clubs but don't. We're really not that dissimilar to them in some ways.

    I think they will also revel in the underdog story which worries me even more about Sundays game if we start giving it the big un. 


    After the League Cup and FA cup were won by the underdogs in '25' and Liverpool and Man City underperformed in a final, let's hope one slight favourite can reverse that trend on Sunday and perform as we did against Huddersfield at home and not Peterborough away.

    I feel Orient aren't under the same pressure to win as their fan base don't call the 3rd tier a shit league.

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