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World Snooker Championship (2025 Event from Page 3)

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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    I could watch Luca Brecel all day.  Goes for absolutely everything!!
    Not a massive snooker fan but dip in and out from time to time.
    Was really enjoying watching Brecel this afternoon. Never heard of him!

    Anyway,  I was all set up to watch what I thought would be a intriguing evening session when I got in from 5 a-side.
    Just turned it on and Trump has already smashed him !
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,691
    I watched this afternoons session but not this evening so this might be incorrect with my judgement..

    Luca has a problem with pressure. One of my favourite players to watch. If things go wrong however he doesn't wilt, instead he crashes and burns. He can really turn it on as he did this afternoon but a few missed opportunities blows it for him and a more all rounded player (who can also be exciting to watch in Trump) can get passed him. So wanted Luca to win. 


  • red10
    red10 Posts: 833
    MrOneLung said:
    Delighted Williams won.  Don't like Higgins
    thank god the would be fixer lost - cheat
    Fixer?, sorry what have I missed? Anybody able to help with this? Genuine question as the fun prevention officer and I really enjoy snooker on the telly. Ta.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    edited May 1
    red10 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Delighted Williams won.  Don't like Higgins
    thank god the would be fixer lost - cheat
    Fixer?, sorry what have I missed? Anybody able to help with this? Genuine question as the fun prevention officer and I really enjoy snooker on the telly. Ta.
    Got done 15 years or so ago for not reporting being asked to fix matches - was a fake News of the World sting so didn't actually get done for match fixing, just not reporting the approach.  

    Was all concocted up by their 'fake sheikh', Mazher Mahmood - the guy who later got done for perverting the course of justice.

    How much Higgins intended to go ahead with the match fixing if it hadn't been fake, I guess we'll never know.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    red10 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Delighted Williams won.  Don't like Higgins
    thank god the would be fixer lost - cheat
    Fixer?, sorry what have I missed? Anybody able to help with this? Genuine question as the fun prevention officer and I really enjoy snooker on the telly. Ta.
    Got done 15 years or so ago for not reporting being asked to fix matches - was a fake News of the World sting so didn't actually get done for match fixing, just not reporting the approach.  

    Was all concocted up by their 'fake sheikh', Mazher Mahmood - the guy who later got done for perverting the course of justice.

    How much Higgins intended to go ahead with the match fixing if it hadn't been fake, I guess we'll never know.
    Zhao Xintong was also banned for match fixing, a 20 month ban that finished in September 2024. 
    He shouldn't be in this tournament no matter how talented he is. He could well win this proving that cheats can prosper
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,985
    I’m of the opinion that once yo be served your suspension you should be able to carry on. People deserve second chances in my opinion 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    red10 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Delighted Williams won.  Don't like Higgins
    thank god the would be fixer lost - cheat
    Fixer?, sorry what have I missed? Anybody able to help with this? Genuine question as the fun prevention officer and I really enjoy snooker on the telly. Ta.
    Got done 15 years or so ago for not reporting being asked to fix matches - was a fake News of the World sting so didn't actually get done for match fixing, just not reporting the approach.  

    Was all concocted up by their 'fake sheikh', Mazher Mahmood - the guy who later got done for perverting the course of justice.

    How much Higgins intended to go ahead with the match fixing if it hadn't been fake, I guess we'll never know.
    Zhao Xintong was also banned for match fixing, a 20 month ban that finished in September 2024. 
    He shouldn't be in this tournament no matter how talented he is. He could well win this proving that cheats can prosper
    Yeah, I don't want him to win.  Very much hoping the winner of Trump & Williams goes on to win, don't mind which if the two as like both of them.

    Agree with fenaddick on the rehabilitation/being allowed to play after the suspension, but would still rather others win.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    red10 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Delighted Williams won.  Don't like Higgins
    thank god the would be fixer lost - cheat
    Fixer?, sorry what have I missed? Anybody able to help with this? Genuine question as the fun prevention officer and I really enjoy snooker on the telly. Ta.
    Got done 15 years or so ago for not reporting being asked to fix matches - was a fake News of the World sting so didn't actually get done for match fixing, just not reporting the approach.  

    Was all concocted up by their 'fake sheikh', Mazher Mahmood - the guy who later got done for perverting the course of justice.

    How much Higgins intended to go ahead with the match fixing if it hadn't been fake, I guess we'll never know.
    Zhao Xintong was also banned for match fixing, a 20 month ban that finished in September 2024. 
    He shouldn't be in this tournament no matter how talented he is. He could well win this proving that cheats can prosper
    Zhao Xintong never fixed any matches 

    He got caught up with the wrong crowd(Yan Bingtao and Liang Wenbo) and bet on matches involving Bingtao who was fixing matches, he corporated fully with the investigation hence why his ban was low to begin with and then reduced even more, 

    We have all done things in the past we regret, but put yourself in his shoes, your in a foreign country away from your family and your support network and the people your trust the people you believe are your friends are telling you, this is a quick way to make money, no one will ever find out, I don't blame him for falling for it, from what I have heard Bingtao and Wenbo were very convincing(Wenbo apparently very violent as well) 

    Xintong deserves a second chance, anyone who has actually fixed a match does not imo because that risk will always be there, but if you haven't fixed a match why does he not deserve a 2nd chance
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Interested to know why you lol that @Lincsaddick what exactly was it I said that made you laugh, I stated facts about Xintong as lots of people online have been saying he was banned for match fixing and I think it should be made clear he was never actually charged with fixing any matches just betting on matches that were fixed by other people 
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,779
    I can only see Trump winning this tournament. He played poorly tonight but Williams couldn't take advantage.  O'Sullivan probably has too much nous for Zhao. Zhao has loads of talent but needs to improve in several areas of the game. Also I think he is a bit jaded after playing so many matches. 
    Can't really write O'Sullivan off but he would be second favourite if he plays Trump. 
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,992
    red10 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Delighted Williams won.  Don't like Higgins
    thank god the would be fixer lost - cheat
    Fixer?, sorry what have I missed? Anybody able to help with this? Genuine question as the fun prevention officer and I really enjoy snooker on the telly. Ta.
    Got done 15 years or so ago for not reporting being asked to fix matches - was a fake News of the World sting so didn't actually get done for match fixing, just not reporting the approach.  

    Was all concocted up by their 'fake sheikh', Mazher Mahmood - the guy who later got done for perverting the course of justice.

    How much Higgins intended to go ahead with the match fixing if it hadn't been fake, I guess we'll never know.
    Zhao Xintong was also banned for match fixing, a 20 month ban that finished in September 2024. 
    He shouldn't be in this tournament no matter how talented he is. He could well win this proving that cheats can prosper
    Zhao Xintong never fixed any matches 

    He got caught up with the wrong crowd(Yan Bingtao and Liang Wenbo) and bet on matches involving Bingtao who was fixing matches, he corporated fully with the investigation hence why his ban was low to begin with and then reduced even more, 

    We have all done things in the past we regret, but put yourself in his shoes, your in a foreign country away from your family and your support network and the people your trust the people you believe are your friends are telling you, this is a quick way to make money, no one will ever find out, I don't blame him for falling for it, from what I have heard Bingtao and Wenbo were very convincing(Wenbo apparently very violent as well) 

    Xintong deserves a second chance, anyone who has actually fixed a match does not imo because that risk will always be there, but if you haven't fixed a match why does he not deserve a 2nd chance
    That sounds like something his mum would say!

    I agree he deserves a second chance but you can't just dismiss his role in it and blame others for being convincing. He was 26 at the time so hardly some impressionable young kid. And whilst he wasn't directly involved in the match, i think if you're openly betting on another professional match that you know is fixed then you're very much a part of the problem.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    edited May 2
    Interested to know why you lol that @Lincsaddick what exactly was it I said that made you laugh, I stated facts about Xintong as lots of people online have been saying he was banned for match fixing and I think it should be made clear he was never actually charged with fixing any matches just betting on matches that were fixed by other people 
    Just laughable that you claim to know so much about the case, when the reality is, you're guessing, putting your own slant on the issue.
    As @Chris_from_Sidcup says, he was 26 when involved, not a little boy. How do you know that he didn't discuss the fixing, was not an enthusiastic part of a set that set out to cheat and might have gone on to be involved in other fixed games before the affair was discovered, conjectures on my part of course.
    It seems that at best he was betting on fixed matches with no 'evidence' that he was coerced.

    You might have your opinions, just don't dress them up as facts.
    Another point i m o. There is a dearth of younger talent in snooker. Two of the semi finalists are nearly 50, same old faces.
    I suspect that Hearn and crew are desperate to keep talented players on 'the tour' even given past gross misdemeanours. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    I can only see Trump winning this tournament. He played poorly tonight but Williams couldn't take advantage.  O'Sullivan probably has too much nous for Zhao. Zhao has loads of talent but needs to improve in several areas of the game. Also I think he is a bit jaded after playing so many matches. 
    Can't really write O'Sullivan off but he would be second favourite if he plays Trump. 
    Trump beats him in the final and passionately embraces him for ten minutes
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    red10 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Delighted Williams won.  Don't like Higgins
    thank god the would be fixer lost - cheat
    Fixer?, sorry what have I missed? Anybody able to help with this? Genuine question as the fun prevention officer and I really enjoy snooker on the telly. Ta.
    Got done 15 years or so ago for not reporting being asked to fix matches - was a fake News of the World sting so didn't actually get done for match fixing, just not reporting the approach.  

    Was all concocted up by their 'fake sheikh', Mazher Mahmood - the guy who later got done for perverting the course of justice.

    How much Higgins intended to go ahead with the match fixing if it hadn't been fake, I guess we'll never know.
    Zhao Xintong was also banned for match fixing, a 20 month ban that finished in September 2024. 
    He shouldn't be in this tournament no matter how talented he is. He could well win this proving that cheats can prosper
    Zhao Xintong never fixed any matches 

    He got caught up with the wrong crowd(Yan Bingtao and Liang Wenbo) and bet on matches involving Bingtao who was fixing matches, he corporated fully with the investigation hence why his ban was low to begin with and then reduced even more, 

    We have all done things in the past we regret, but put yourself in his shoes, your in a foreign country away from your family and your support network and the people your trust the people you believe are your friends are telling you, this is a quick way to make money, no one will ever find out, I don't blame him for falling for it, from what I have heard Bingtao and Wenbo were very convincing(Wenbo apparently very violent as well) 

    Xintong deserves a second chance, anyone who has actually fixed a match does not imo because that risk will always be there, but if you haven't fixed a match why does he not deserve a 2nd chance
    His career prize money is hundreds of thousands of pounds, so no excuse for fixing or betting on matches. He knew what he was doing.   He did the wrong thing & was rightfully punished.  I personally think the ban should've been longer, but that's just my view.

    That said, he's a great player & has a great chance of winning the title this year.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,985
    What a mini session this has been from Zhao. A very close match has quickly become one where Ronnie will need to make a great comeback 
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Ronnie not at the races!
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334
    I think I'm right in saying Ronnie needs to pull off the (equal) 2nd greatest comeback in crucible history. Steve Davis once came back from 8 behind and Luca was 14-5 down to Si in his semi 2 years ago
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,691
    Can't see it happening unless zaho has a meltdown 
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    I think we actually saw what Ronnie was talking about this morning.  He missed so many balls.  Zhao was great, but Ronnie was equally bad!
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,691
    Good half a session between trump and williams. Williams coming back the last two frames.
    7 - 5 to trump at the moment. 
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  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,314
    Sad to see Ronnie like this 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    His concentration levels are shot to pieces
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    Sad to see Ronnie like this 
    I'm loving it.
    Something about the bloke I cannot stand
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,314
    What I don’t get is for a player of his level even if he changes the cue or whatever he should still be able
    to pot the blue off the spot 

    Clearly Ronnies issues are in the head

    Whatever you think of him and he can be annoying when he’s just spanked someone and still moans id still like him to play Trump in the final as they are the best 2 in my opinion

    Good luck to Zhao though he played brilliant 


  • Phil
    Phil Posts: 612
    Pity the punters who’ve shelled out @ £100 to see a semi final to its conclusion but due to early finish will now get Davis and Taylor playing an exhibition game. I’m sure it’ll be great but not what you’d pay that much for. They really should be refunding some money.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,217
    Should get value for money if it goes on till two in the morning.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    I take back what I said previously/  Ronnie is clearly in decline.  Once he was put under pressure, he missed so many easy balls.  Clearly has lost confidence in his own ability.

    I'm not sure we'll see much more of him on the tour.  As much as I'm not a fan of him as a person, that will be sad for the sport.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,985
    Part of his problem is he’s barely played any snooker 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    I take back what I said previously/  Ronnie is clearly in decline.  Once he was put under pressure, he missed so many easy balls.  Clearly has lost confidence in his own ability.

    I'm not sure we'll see much more of him on the tour.  As much as I'm not a fan of him as a person, that will be sad for the sport.
    he still picked up 100 grand for a semi spot .. all the time he can earn big he'll be there and still boring us with his moaning and bullshit chat I reckon .. claims today he's moving to the 'middle east'