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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    edited March 26
    Raducanu Pegula next on court after the current match between Cerundolo and Dimitrov.

    Currently in the second set with Cerundolo leading 1-0 but Dimitrov with the second set break. Could be another hour or longer to wait.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    Callumcafc said:
    Raducanu Pegula next on court after the current match between Cerundolo and Dimitrov.

    Currently in the second set with Cerundolo leading 1-0 but Dimitrov with the second set break. Could be another hour or longer to wait.
    Was always a possibility - just wished I'd had a sleep for an hour or so
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    Callumcafc said:

    I didn't know she was the product of a tennis academy - makes sense as the Philippines not the biggest hot bed of tennis
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Raducanu and Pegula in warm ups now
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Pegula breaks serve to lead 3-2
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    edited March 27
    Pegula takes the first set 6-4. Emma playing fairly well but unable to make any in-roads on her opponent’s serve, until 5-4 when they were serving for the set where a couple of deuces were forced.

    Hopefully some lessons from that she can take into the next set.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    edited March 27
    A very high level of tennis. Pegula takes the fist set 6 - 4. Fairly close but Pegula ranked 4 for a good reason.

    What is Pegula complaining about?

    Whatever the outcome of this, I am getting more confident Emma Raducanu is back. Definitely onwards and upwards. Playing at a very high level

    The orange screen change VERY annoying
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Raducanu breaks serve to lead 3-1 in the second set.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    edited March 27
    From being in control, Emma starts feeling the conditions and lets four set points slip on Pegula’s serve. Next game Pegula breaks to get back on serve 5-4.

    Doctor has been called to help Emma with an issue (likely struggling with the humidity).
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Callumcafc said:
    From being in control, Emma starts feeling the conditions and lets four set points slip on Pegula’s serve. Next game Pegula breaks to get back on serve.

    Doctor has been called to help Emma with an issue (likely struggling with the humidity).
    It’s definitely the humidity.

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    This is such a shame that Emma became ill when she was playing so well and had 4 set points to go 1 set all.

  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    soapboxsam said:
    This is such a shame that Emma became ill when she was playing so well and had 4 set points to go 1 set all.

    Exactly as she was definitely on top and nearly broke Pegula again.

    Cue the usual detrimental, ignorant comments from her detractors though - but what do they know, she's clearly back after a few challenging years? The Brits do struggle with the humidity - Draper and Fearnley too
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    edited March 27
    Raducanu is playing on after have the medical time out and now is 6-5 up after losing 1st set 6-4
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    soapboxsam said:
    Raducanu is playing on after have the medical time out and now is 6-5 up after losing 1st set 6-4
    Flppin' bad luck with the being ill just when she was clearly the better player. And even when ill she had all those set points
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Emma wins the second set tie break!
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    edited March 27
    She's only gone and won the second set!

    Hope she's feeling better and can carry on like this!

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    I still make Pegula massive favourite from here. Unless Raducanu makes a miraculous physical recovery.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,061
    Brilliant. I turned it on during the medical timeout and thought was her done...

    But she has recovered well to win 2nd set in some style via tie break

    Come on Emma
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    edited March 27
    Brilliant tie break from Emma. 1 set all.
    4-6 7-6 and she having ice to cool her down.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,061
    Callumcafc said:
    I still make Pegula massive favourite from here. Unless Raducanu makes a miraculous physical recovery.
    4/9
    Vs
    13/8

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Pegula breaks for 2-0 in the third set
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Pegula wins 6-4 6-7 6-2
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,910
    Unfortunately I didn't see the match but it does sound like a very spirited performance. The humidity and stamina aspects that affected her game are things that she can train for and hopefully be encouraged to do - athletes do so at altitude so the body adapts to having lower oxygen levels. Beating the best players is around the margins and being in the top physical state is a given in that respect. Sabalenka, for example, although having a distinct advantage in now being based in Miami, has only had to retire once in her 628 match career in winning 18 titles whereas Radacanu, by comparison, has been forced to retire 12 times in her 189 matches.   

    Sabalenka has also had the same coach now for almost five years now to help her with those hard yards off court in terms of building the technical, physical and mental elements of the game and I still do question whether someone like Petchey, who has so many other commitments, is the right one. It's entirely up to Radacanu (and not her father) to decide what's best for her and also whether she really has that drive herself to become the best player she can possibly be. This tournament will clear a lot of things in Radancanu's mind in that respect. Next stop? Stuttgart in 19 days time as this is a tournament she has regularly played in?   
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    edited March 27
    Pegula is a consistently strong player who won a close  1st set; whereas we saw Raducanu play a commanding 2nd set and gained a 5-2 lead before she was in obvious discomfort from the humidity. Somehow after the medical timeout she produced some cracking shots to finally win the tie break in the 2nd set.
    The 3rd set was comfortable for Pegula as she played a smart match with few mistakes against an ailing opponent.

    The Positives were Emma played 5 matches in a tournament and played high class tennis with her serve being strong and both forehand and backhand being consistent. She didn't look out of place against 4 opponents who had been or currently ranked in the top 20.
    Emma should rise to GB number 1 eventually, as she has a better all round game than Katie Boulter who reached her career high of 23 back in 'Nov 24' (slipped to 35)

    The negatives are when her body gets stressed  through high adrenaline rushes and she has dizzy spells which affected her in the 1st year of her Pro career and again in this match. High humidity levels mainly to blame this time but Raducanu's medical team need to find a solution as it will/does affect her progress.

    The fact she won the US slam 4 years ago in New York after coming through qualifying means she is a good athlete when healthy and at the optimum fitness levels; plus being a talented tennis player helps !
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,983
    Addick Addict said:
    Unfortunately I didn't see the match but it does sound like a very spirited performance. The humidity and stamina aspects that affected her game are things that she can train for and hopefully be encouraged to do - athletes do so at altitude so the body adapts to having lower oxygen levels. Beating the best players is around the margins and being in the top physical state is a given in that respect. Sabalenka, for example, although having a distinct advantage in now being based in Miami, has only had to retire once in her 628 match career in winning 18 titles whereas Radacanu, by comparison, has been forced to retire 12 times in her 189 matches.   

    Sabalenka has also had the same coach now for almost five years now to help her with those hard yards off court in terms of building the technical, physical and mental elements of the game and I still do question whether someone like Petchey, who has so many other commitments, is the right one. It's entirely up to Radacanu (and not her father) to decide what's best for her and also whether she really has that drive herself to become the best player she can possibly be. This tournament will clear a lot of things in Radancanu's mind in that respect. Next stop? Stuttgart in 19 days time as this is a tournament she has regularly played in?   
    A decent fitness and conditioning team is just as important.

    The weather in Miami hasn't been extreme weather for tennis players to cope with, and she shouldn't be struggling in the second set of a match. This isn't Draper struggling in 5 set matches.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,910
    killerandflash said:
    Addick Addict said:
    Unfortunately I didn't see the match but it does sound like a very spirited performance. The humidity and stamina aspects that affected her game are things that she can train for and hopefully be encouraged to do - athletes do so at altitude so the body adapts to having lower oxygen levels. Beating the best players is around the margins and being in the top physical state is a given in that respect. Sabalenka, for example, although having a distinct advantage in now being based in Miami, has only had to retire once in her 628 match career in winning 18 titles whereas Radacanu, by comparison, has been forced to retire 12 times in her 189 matches.   

    Sabalenka has also had the same coach now for almost five years now to help her with those hard yards off court in terms of building the technical, physical and mental elements of the game and I still do question whether someone like Petchey, who has so many other commitments, is the right one. It's entirely up to Radacanu (and not her father) to decide what's best for her and also whether she really has that drive herself to become the best player she can possibly be. This tournament will clear a lot of things in Radancanu's mind in that respect. Next stop? Stuttgart in 19 days time as this is a tournament she has regularly played in?   
    A decent fitness and conditioning team is just as important.

    The weather in Miami hasn't been extreme weather for tennis players to cope with, and she shouldn't be struggling in the second set of a match. This isn't Draper struggling in 5 set matches.
    That's why Andy Murray had a Charlton fan as his fitness coach throughout his career. We're renowned for our fitness. Aren't we? 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    killerandflash said:
    Addick Addict said:
    Unfortunately I didn't see the match but it does sound like a very spirited performance. The humidity and stamina aspects that affected her game are things that she can train for and hopefully be encouraged to do - athletes do so at altitude so the body adapts to having lower oxygen levels. Beating the best players is around the margins and being in the top physical state is a given in that respect. Sabalenka, for example, although having a distinct advantage in now being based in Miami, has only had to retire once in her 628 match career in winning 18 titles whereas Radacanu, by comparison, has been forced to retire 12 times in her 189 matches.   

    Sabalenka has also had the same coach now for almost five years now to help her with those hard yards off court in terms of building the technical, physical and mental elements of the game and I still do question whether someone like Petchey, who has so many other commitments, is the right one. It's entirely up to Radacanu (and not her father) to decide what's best for her and also whether she really has that drive herself to become the best player she can possibly be. This tournament will clear a lot of things in Radancanu's mind in that respect. Next stop? Stuttgart in 19 days time as this is a tournament she has regularly played in?   
    A decent fitness and conditioning team is just as important.

    The weather in Miami hasn't been extreme weather for tennis players to cope with, and she shouldn't be struggling in the second set of a match. This isn't Draper struggling in 5 set matches.
    Other players have struggled in the heat and humidity including Fearnley only recently. And Draper has done it in 3 set matches before, before the 3rd set.

    Raducanu's fitness has clearly improved massively since she took on the full time trainer. She's not had a real chance to put herself through it until now, as she's not had a run of games. It was clearly a long and competitive match - how many women's finals (GS and Masters) have there been less than half yesterday's match time and far less competitive?

    Being beaten by the world 4 in the QF is no mean feat. And the more tournaments where she puts a string of wins together and plays longer, more competitive matches, the stronger she will get - fitness training not the same as hard matches.

    Clay is not her surface, but am looking forward to the grass season to see what she, Draper and some of the others can do
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,983
    The time you do your main physical work is the off season. I remember seeing footage of Murray's winter boot camp in Miami, and the intensity of his training.

    I guess it's similar to the work we did last summer, which has benefited us all season, whereas the previous summer's regime was nowhere near good enough.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,838
    Dimitrov had to be helped/carried off court just a couple of hours before Raducanu had her own issues. It was brutal. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    Callumcafc said:
    Dimitrov had to be helped/carried off court just a couple of hours before Raducanu had her own issues. It was brutal. 
    Goodness, that's brutal

    I never see other players getting as much stick though. Mind you, I probably see comments about Raducanu.  Either the ignorant comments spur her on or she is barely aware of them at all as they are mostly meaningless

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