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Prince Harry settles legal claim against Sun publisher

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  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    PrincessFiona said:
    Huskaris said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    Huskaris said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    Errrm.
    Harry had the temerity to marry and have children with Megan Markle.
    Not the kind of thing the English establishment with all its tentacles find easy to accept.
    If Harry can find a way to simply be an anonymous person then great, but the accident of his birth is a double edged sword, on the one hand wealth and privilege but on the other hand no privacy, plus being someone in the cross hairs of nutters.
    Wouldn’t it be great if he could fade into anonymity and lead a quiet life, but as I have said, the accident of his birth has forced him into a world that is very unpleasant.
    English?
    "If you don't love Harry and Meghan, you're racist"
    My point was it should be 'British'. But, yes, I've seen that ridiculous statement, or similar, about comments by people who criticise them
    Oh sorry, I thought you wanted the ramblings translated into English! 
    SP's?!

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    And another thing….he blames everyone but doesn’t take responsibility for his own part in it. I get he was born into the royal family, yes his mother died when he was young etc etc but man up and stop whining.
    We all have our own cross to carry
    In his case he can never be free of his cross because of the accident of his birth. If he exploits that for money I don’t particularly blame him because he is trapped.
    I would say many, if not most, of us can’t be free of our cross.
    You’re probably right, the deal you get is the deal you get.
    Most people then navigate. It is particular for him because of the accident of his birth, which invites others to sit in judgement over him.

    It is not because of 'the accident of his birth'  - although I didn't realise him being born was an accident
    Well I assume everybody is here because of the accident of their birth as an individual. Nobody gets to choose the circumstances into which they are born.
    Maybe you know of an instance when that has happened, I can’t think of one.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    And another thing….he blames everyone but doesn’t take responsibility for his own part in it. I get he was born into the royal family, yes his mother died when he was young etc etc but man up and stop whining.
    We all have our own cross to carry
    In his case he can never be free of his cross because of the accident of his birth. If he exploits that for money I don’t particularly blame him because he is trapped.
    I would say many, if not most, of us can’t be free of our cross.
    You’re probably right, the deal you get is the deal you get.
    Most people then navigate. It is particular for him because of the accident of his birth, which invites others to sit in judgement over him.

    It is not because of 'the accident of his birth'  - although I didn't realise him being born was an accident
    Well I assume everybody is here because of the accident of their birth as an individual. Nobody gets to choose the circumstances into which they are born.
    Maybe you know of an instance when that has happened, I can’t think of one.
    I repeat it isn't because of the accident of his birth that people comment as they do
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    And another thing….he blames everyone but doesn’t take responsibility for his own part in it. I get he was born into the royal family, yes his mother died when he was young etc etc but man up and stop whining.
    We all have our own cross to carry
    In his case he can never be free of his cross because of the accident of his birth. If he exploits that for money I don’t particularly blame him because he is trapped.
    I would say many, if not most, of us can’t be free of our cross.
    You’re probably right, the deal you get is the deal you get.
    Most people then navigate. It is particular for him because of the accident of his birth, which invites others to sit in judgement over him.

    It is not because of 'the accident of his birth'  - although I didn't realise him being born was an accident
    Well I assume everybody is here because of the accident of their birth as an individual. Nobody gets to choose the circumstances into which they are born.
    Maybe you know of an instance when that has happened, I can’t think of one.
    I repeat it isn't because of the accident of his birth that people comment as they do
    Why do people comment as they do?
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,198
    edited January 23
    Another Netflix documentary, where cameras follow them around. Children use shamelessly as props. 
    But that’s Ok no intrusion at all. Like all the Royals moan when the truth comes out, anything negative is “a gross violation of our privacy “ 
    We are treated like peasants, and drip fed news. 
    We need to think the role this family in the 21st century.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,392
    I thought this was quite interesting:
    https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-king-the-prince-their-secret-millions
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,906
    usetobunkin said:
    Another Netflix documentary, where cameras follow them around. Children use shamelessly as props. 
    But that’s Ok no intrusion at all. Like all the Royals moan when the truth comes out, anything negative is “a gross violation of our privacy “ 
    We are treated like peasants, and drip fed news. 
    We need to think the role this family in the 21st century.
    I agree in part but the same applies to many ‘celebrities’. The double standard is not a uniquely Royal  Family thing. 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,198
    valleynick66 said:
    usetobunkin said:
    Another Netflix documentary, where cameras follow them around. Children use shamelessly as props. 
    But that’s Ok no intrusion at all. Like all the Royals moan when the truth comes out, anything negative is “a gross violation of our privacy “ 
    We are treated like peasants, and drip fed news. 
    We need to think the role this family in the 21st century.
    I agree in part but the same applies to many ‘celebrities’. The double standard is not a uniquely Royal  Family thing. 
    You are absolutely right about the celebrity thing, but I pay through my taxes to support this family of freeloaders. 
    I have no say via a ballot box as to who is head of state. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    And another thing….he blames everyone but doesn’t take responsibility for his own part in it. I get he was born into the royal family, yes his mother died when he was young etc etc but man up and stop whining.
    We all have our own cross to carry
    In his case he can never be free of his cross because of the accident of his birth. If he exploits that for money I don’t particularly blame him because he is trapped.
    I would say many, if not most, of us can’t be free of our cross.
    You’re probably right, the deal you get is the deal you get.
    Most people then navigate. It is particular for him because of the accident of his birth, which invites others to sit in judgement over him.

    It is not because of 'the accident of his birth'  - although I didn't realise him being born was an accident
    Well I assume everybody is here because of the accident of their birth as an individual. Nobody gets to choose the circumstances into which they are born.
    Maybe you know of an instance when that has happened, I can’t think of one.
    I repeat it isn't because of the accident of his birth that people comment as they do
    Why do people comment as they do?
    You can't possibly not know, so I'm not being drawn into another of your ridiculous rabbit holes
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,921
    Priceless stuff. Again.

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    And another thing….he blames everyone but doesn’t take responsibility for his own part in it. I get he was born into the royal family, yes his mother died when he was young etc etc but man up and stop whining.
    We all have our own cross to carry
    In his case he can never be free of his cross because of the accident of his birth. If he exploits that for money I don’t particularly blame him because he is trapped.
    I would say many, if not most, of us can’t be free of our cross.
    You’re probably right, the deal you get is the deal you get.
    Most people then navigate. It is particular for him because of the accident of his birth, which invites others to sit in judgement over him.

    It is not because of 'the accident of his birth'  - although I didn't realise him being born was an accident
    Well I assume everybody is here because of the accident of their birth as an individual. Nobody gets to choose the circumstances into which they are born.
    Maybe you know of an instance when that has happened, I can’t think of one.
    I repeat it isn't because of the accident of his birth that people comment as they do
    Why do people comment as they do?
    You can't possibly not know, so I'm not being drawn into another of your ridiculous rabbit holes
    Eh?
    You make no sense.
    I have argued above that Harry is in his individual position due to the accident of his birth. Like all of us.
    However his accident placed him in a position where he would be under the microscope.
    If he tries to reject that by going abroad with his wife(and fails it seems), then can there be any surprise that he would monetise his situation in an ‘if you can’t beat them join’ them kind of way?
    If people comment they are commenting on a facsimile of a person, not the individual. The comments, both favourable and unfavourable are not based on reality, but what is perceived through filters.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    edited January 24
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    seth plum said:
    Arsenetatters said:
    And another thing….he blames everyone but doesn’t take responsibility for his own part in it. I get he was born into the royal family, yes his mother died when he was young etc etc but man up and stop whining.
    We all have our own cross to carry
    In his case he can never be free of his cross because of the accident of his birth. If he exploits that for money I don’t particularly blame him because he is trapped.
    I would say many, if not most, of us can’t be free of our cross.
    You’re probably right, the deal you get is the deal you get.
    Most people then navigate. It is particular for him because of the accident of his birth, which invites others to sit in judgement over him.

    It is not because of 'the accident of his birth'  - although I didn't realise him being born was an accident
    Well I assume everybody is here because of the accident of their birth as an individual. Nobody gets to choose the circumstances into which they are born.
    Maybe you know of an instance when that has happened, I can’t think of one.
    I repeat it isn't because of the accident of his birth that people comment as they do
    Why do people comment as they do?
    You can't possibly not know, so I'm not being drawn into another of your ridiculous rabbit holes
    Eh?
    You make no sense.
    I have argued above that Harry is in his individual position due to the accident of his birth. Like all of us.
    However his accident placed him in a position where he would be under the microscope.
    If he tries to reject that by going abroad with his wife(and fails it seems), then can there be any surprise that he would monetise his situation in an ‘if you can’t beat them join’ them kind of way?
    If people comment they are commenting on a facsimile of a person, not the individual. The comments, both favourable and unfavourable are not based on reality, but what is perceived through filters.
    Nope, you don't, as I and others have said on numerous occasions
    If you really want to know why people comment as they do - phone a friend or ask the audience
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,069
    usetobunkin said:
    Another Netflix documentary, where cameras follow them around. Children use shamelessly as props. 
    But that’s Ok no intrusion at all. Like all the Royals moan when the truth comes out, anything negative is “a gross violation of our privacy “ 
    We are treated like peasants, and drip fed news. 
    We need to think the role this family in the 21st century.
    The point of this case appears to have alluded you.

    Harry’s phone was illegally hacked/tapped and private information published.

    I’m no great fan of Harry, but anyone with a shred of decency should be opposed to phone hacking.

    Someone must have lived the perfect life if they would be quite happy to have everything on their phone published to the world.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,356
    Covered End said:
    usetobunkin said:
    Another Netflix documentary, where cameras follow them around. Children use shamelessly as props. 
    But that’s Ok no intrusion at all. Like all the Royals moan when the truth comes out, anything negative is “a gross violation of our privacy “ 
    We are treated like peasants, and drip fed news. 
    We need to think the role this family in the 21st century.
    The point of this case appears to have alluded you.

    Harry’s phone was illegally hacked/tapped and private information published.

    I’m no great fan of Harry, but anyone with a shred of decency should be opposed to phone hacking.

    Someone must have lived the perfect life if they would be quite happy to have everything on their phone published to the world.
    100% 

    And it's not just what's on the victim's phone, it's the messages left by others on voicemail. 

    If anyone still thinks that phone hacking isn't a big deal, imagine for a moment what it would have been like for Millie Dowler's parents being given false hope that she was alive, because messages being left on her phone were being picked up. And then remember it was the News of The World that was doing it. 
  • Cloudworm
    Cloudworm Posts: 977
    Well done Harry. A true British hero.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,907
    edited January 25
    usetobunkin said:
    valleynick66 said:
    usetobunkin said:
    Another Netflix documentary, where cameras follow them around. Children use shamelessly as props. 
    But that’s Ok no intrusion at all. Like all the Royals moan when the truth comes out, anything negative is “a gross violation of our privacy “ 
    We are treated like peasants, and drip fed news. 
    We need to think the role this family in the 21st century.
    I agree in part but the same applies to many ‘celebrities’. The double standard is not a uniquely Royal  Family thing. 
    You are absolutely right about the celebrity thing, but I pay through my taxes to support this family of freeloaders. 
    I have no say via a ballot box as to who is head of state. 
    Yes you do.. there are (as there always has been) republican parties.

    You can support them and stand for election on a republican ticket.

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