The squad is clearly too big that’s pretty evident. CM talking as if he and his mates aren’t to blame is the problem
Is it though?
In numerical terms any real difference to other seasons?
The issue remains quality.
I don’t have the numbers in front of me but yes, a squad any bigger than 25 is too big and will have unhappy players. If you have less players you can hopefully spend more on quality but that comes back to CM’s mates again…
Charlie, I have watched every minute of league and cup(s) football this season (either live or on stream), plus a lot of the academy. It is virtually the same as last season but without the hope and joy of watching Alfie May and George Dobson, but with the astonishment of watching Gary Docherty (despite Saturday) and Gassan Ahadme. I was also present at the ‘tribute’ to Kevin Nolan, were you?
Seth, have you attempted to contact anyone at the Club about the half arsed tribute to Kevin Nolan which you seem hell bent on shoehorning into every comment you make? If you have then great and please let us know what response you get, if any. If you haven’t then why not if it bothers you so much?
People moaned that he hadn't said anything and now people are moaning that he has. Cant win can he? Some people have made their minds up (some based on where he went to school) and that's that.
Merry Christmas.
That’s not quite true, I don’t give a monkeys what school he went to, or what coloured trousers he wears, although I think it’s a misconception that he always wears salmon trousers.
For me, it’s all about the pace of progress and improvement achieved, which at the moment, is no where near quick, or good enough.
I dont think anyone has said it's good enough, have they?
My point was that people were moaning about the silence, now people are moaning hes said something. Cant have it both ways.
I never moaned about silence.
I'm moaning that he's underperformed throughout the season, had one good game and now we're supposed to kiss his arse.
The squad is clearly too big that’s pretty evident. CM talking as if he and his mates aren’t to blame is the problem
Is it though?
In numerical terms any real difference to other seasons?
The issue remains quality.
I don’t have the numbers in front of me but yes, a squad any bigger than 25 is too big and will have unhappy players. If you have less players you can hopefully spend more on quality but that comes back to CM’s mates again…
Charlie, I have watched every minute of league and cup(s) football this season (either live or on stream), plus a lot of the academy. It is virtually the same as last season but without the hope and joy of watching Alfie May and George Dobson, but with the astonishment of watching Gary Docherty (despite Saturday) and Gassan Ahadme. I was also present at the ‘tribute’ to Kevin Nolan, were you?
Seth, have you attempted to contact anyone at the Club about the half arsed tribute to Kevin Nolan which you seem hell bent on shoehorning into every comment you make? If you have then great and please let us know what response you get, if any. If you haven’t then why not if it bothers you so much?
What would be the point? So that somebody could explain something that needs no explanation? What happened was crass and disrespectful, and indicates what I take to be the alienation of the supporters from the club, because what happened seemed like a tawdry afterthought
Charlie, I have watched every minute of league and cup(s) football this season (either live or on stream), plus a lot of the academy. It is virtually the same as last season but without the hope and joy of watching Alfie May and George Dobson, but with the astonishment of watching Gary Docherty (despite Saturday) and Gassan Ahadme. I was also present at the ‘tribute’ to Kevin Nolan, were you?
Seth, have you attempted to contact anyone at the Club about the half arsed tribute to Kevin Nolan which you seem hell bent on shoehorning into every comment you make? If you have then great and please let us know what response you get, if any. If you haven’t then why not if it bothers you so much?
What would be the point? So that somebody could explain something that needs no explanation? What happened was crass and disrespectful, and indicates what I take to be the alienation of the supporters from the club, because what happened seemed like a tawdry afterthought
So telling the club directly is pointless... but talking about it here with people who couldn't have changed it before and certainly can't afterwards is... what, exactly?
Charlie, I have watched every minute of league and cup(s) football this season (either live or on stream), plus a lot of the academy. It is virtually the same as last season but without the hope and joy of watching Alfie May and George Dobson, but with the astonishment of watching Gary Docherty (despite Saturday) and Gassan Ahadme. I was also present at the ‘tribute’ to Kevin Nolan, were you?
Seth, have you attempted to contact anyone at the Club about the half arsed tribute to Kevin Nolan which you seem hell bent on shoehorning into every comment you make? If you have then great and please let us know what response you get, if any. If you haven’t then why not if it bothers you so much?
What would be the point? So that somebody could explain something that needs no explanation? What happened was crass and disrespectful, and indicates what I take to be the alienation of the supporters from the club, because what happened seemed like a tawdry afterthought
If you are not prepared to do that then it obviously doesn’t bother you that much.
Charlie, I have watched every minute of league and cup(s) football this season (either live or on stream), plus a lot of the academy. It is virtually the same as last season but without the hope and joy of watching Alfie May and George Dobson, but with the astonishment of watching Gary Docherty (despite Saturday) and Gassan Ahadme. I was also present at the ‘tribute’ to Kevin Nolan, were you?
Seth, have you attempted to contact anyone at the Club about the half arsed tribute to Kevin Nolan which you seem hell bent on shoehorning into every comment you make? If you have then great and please let us know what response you get, if any. If you haven’t then why not if it bothers you so much?
What would be the point? So that somebody could explain something that needs no explanation? What happened was crass and disrespectful, and indicates what I take to be the alienation of the supporters from the club, because what happened seemed like a tawdry afterthought
So telling the club directly is pointless... but talking about it here with people who couldn't have changed it before and certainly can't afterwards is... what, exactly?
…is commenting on an aspect of our club that is shameful.
Even though our performances and style of play has been woeful, truly dreadful, I'd probably agree that a really good midfielder with some creativity, and another forward, could be all that's needed to change a lot.
Charlie, I have watched every minute of league and cup(s) football this season (either live or on stream), plus a lot of the academy. It is virtually the same as last season but without the hope and joy of watching Alfie May and George Dobson, but with the astonishment of watching Gary Docherty (despite Saturday) and Gassan Ahadme. I was also present at the ‘tribute’ to Kevin Nolan, were you?
Seth, have you attempted to contact anyone at the Club about the half arsed tribute to Kevin Nolan which you seem hell bent on shoehorning into every comment you make? If you have then great and please let us know what response you get, if any. If you haven’t then why not if it bothers you so much?
What would be the point? So that somebody could explain something that needs no explanation? What happened was crass and disrespectful, and indicates what I take to be the alienation of the supporters from the club, because what happened seemed like a tawdry afterthought
So telling the club directly is pointless... but talking about it here with people who couldn't have changed it before and certainly can't afterwards is... what, exactly?
Please correct me if I'm wrong but in my opinion most tributes/memorials have, since the days of Roger Alwen, been fan led, yes the directors were on board with those events but it took the fans to raise awareness and the club to facilitate the associated event. How many in the club now are supporters and also how many have any recollection of the relevance of the people who helped this club recover after the dark days of Selhurst paid or unpaid by the club ? If we are disappointed by the tribute offered to Kev Nolan then it's probably worth supporters organisations taking it forward and making sure it doesn't happen again, but just for a matter of perspective, in September 2025 it will be 40 years since we departed the Valley for Selhurst, I remember it well but should we be so surprised that almost forty years later a lot of people do not attach the same importance to the event or to the people who were at the forefront of righting that wrong ?
Please correct me if I'm wrong but in my opinion most tributes/memorials have, since the days of Roger Alwen, been fan led, yes the directors were on board with those events but it took the fans to raise awareness and the club to facilitate the associated event. How many in the club now are supporters and also how many have any recollection of the relevance of the people who helped this club recover after the dark days of Selhurst paid or unpaid by the club ? If we are disappointed by the tribute offered to Kev Nolan then it's probably worth supporters organisations taking it forward and making sure it doesn't happen again, but just for a matter of perspective, in September 2025 it will be 40 years since we departed the Valley for Selhurst, I remember it well but should we be so surprised that almost forty years later a lot of people do not attach the same importance to the event or to the people who were at the forefront of righting that wrong ?
Not really a subject for today but 1) Kevin wrote reports for nearly 40 years up to and including this season; he didn’t have a great deal to do with the Valley campaign and 2) many such tributes have been led by the football authorities and the club, some of them highly marginal, with fans expected to take part (and doing so out of courtesy and respect). None had ever taken place at half time, when club officials and staff could and did absent themselves. It was bizarre. But I agree there is a risk that going on about it assigns the disrespect shown by the club more importance than it deserves. Who cares what the people who avoided it think?
Please correct me if I'm wrong but in my opinion most tributes/memorials have, since the days of Roger Alwen, been fan led, yes the directors were on board with those events but it took the fans to raise awareness and the club to facilitate the associated event. How many in the club now are supporters and also how many have any recollection of the relevance of the people who helped this club recover after the dark days of Selhurst paid or unpaid by the club ? If we are disappointed by the tribute offered to Kev Nolan then it's probably worth supporters organisations taking it forward and making sure it doesn't happen again, but just for a matter of perspective, in September 2025 it will be 40 years since we departed the Valley for Selhurst, I remember it well but should we be so surprised that almost forty years later a lot of people do not attach the same importance to the event or to the people who were at the forefront of righting that wrong ?
Not really a subject for today but 1) Kevin wrote reports for nearly 40 years up to and including this season; he didn’t have a great deal to do with the Valley campaign and 2) many such tributes have been led by the football authorities and the club, some of them highly marginal, with fans expected to take part (and doing so out of courtesy and respect). None had ever taken place at half time, when club officials and staff could and did absent themselves. It was bizarre. But I agree there is a risk that going on about it assigns the disrespect shown by the club more importance than it deserves. Who cares what the people who avoided it think?
Thing that gets me is he always talks about having a look under the bonnet. How long do these guys want under the bonnet to work out how they’re supposed to get the car started and driving in the right direction? There may have been a number of new parts added, some shiny ones from the outside but there’s still a lot of rust and broken parts. It’s been wholly unconvincing for a while now and I think the majority shareholders know that too.
Thing that gets me is he always talks about having a look under the bonnet. How long do these guys want under the bonnet to work out how they’re supposed to get the car started and driving in the right direction? There may have been a number of new parts added, some shiny ones from the outside but there’s still a lot of rust and broken parts. It’s been wholly unconvincing for a while now and I think the majority shareholders know that too.
I imagine he'll be singing a different tune if his mates Rodwell and Scott get turfed out and others get brought in.
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I'm moaning that he's underperformed throughout the season, had one good game and now we're supposed to kiss his arse.
What happened was crass and disrespectful, and indicates what I take to be the alienation of the supporters from the club, because what happened seemed like a tawdry afterthought
For those still in the past, MOVE ON!!!
I imagine he'll be singing a different tune if his mates Rodwell and Scott get turfed out and others get brought in.