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Ireland England game/ CAFC in Dublin
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It was maybe foolish of him to Tweet (from some people's perspective anyway), but he never brought it into this banter on here mate.guinnessaddick said:
Think you should be saying that to Declan.Gribbo said:
Thought you were better than that Guinno 'ol son.guinnessaddick said:0 -
How old even was he when he tweeted that as well? Seems like something a clueless child would tweet.0
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15ValleyGary said:How old even was he when he tweeted that as well? Seems like something a clueless child would tweet.1 -
It was quite funny in Crossbars - cheering when Rice scored, quickly followed by some boos when he did his demonstrative non-celebrating thing!ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha1 -
Perhaps I shouldn’t had brought it up, but Declan thought it was appropriate as he saw himself as Irish and that’s where his international career was at the time. He still saw himself as Irish at 19, when making his senior international debut.Gribbo said:
It was maybe foolish of him to Tweet (from some people's perspective anyway), but he never brought it into this banter on here mate.guinnessaddick said:
Think you should be saying that to Declan.Gribbo said:
Thought you were better than that Guinno 'ol son.guinnessaddick said:0 -
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha
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I’m guessing not everyone has got over them yet !!TelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha
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🤣 someone paid their hard earned money for that. Superb.7
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That’s going to trigger a few 😀guinnessaddick said:0 - Sponsored links:
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Let’s be honest, Ireland have used non Irish born players for years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republic_of_Ireland_international_footballers_born_outside_the_Republic_of_IrelandTelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha3 -
And that’s just their families holding it up 🤷🏻♂️😂Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
I’m guessing not everyone has got over them yet !!TelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha5 -
How many of those won full caps for England etc before playing for Ireland?Brownie12 said:
Let’s be honest, Ireland have used non Irish born players for years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republic_of_Ireland_international_footballers_born_outside_the_Republic_of_IrelandTelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha0 -
Something we’ve been used to given the mass emigration from Ireland from the famine onwards. We know full well that our resources are scant and we have to dig out gems where we can. Seems odd that a country with a population 13x bigger needs to use the same methods. From memory Rice was under huge pressure from West Ham to declare for England as it would boost the fee they got for him.Brownie12 said:
Let’s be honest, Ireland have used non Irish born players for years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republic_of_Ireland_international_footballers_born_outside_the_Republic_of_IrelandTelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha3 -
In all fairness, it’s not really “the same methods”. Ireland were picking players born in England with Irish parents or Grandparents who generally weren’t good enough to get in the England team. England are picking players born in England that are good enough for the England team.TelMc32 said:
Something we’ve been used to given the mass emigration from Ireland from the famine onwards. We know full well that our resources are scant and we have to dig out gems where we can. Seems odd that a country with a population 13x bigger needs to use the same methods. From memory Rice was under huge pressure from West Ham to declare for England as it would boost the fee they got for him.Brownie12 said:
Let’s be honest, Ireland have used non Irish born players for years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republic_of_Ireland_international_footballers_born_outside_the_Republic_of_IrelandTelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha9 -
it’s not like we have found some Irishmen that happened to have a grandparent from England and grabbed them.These are Englishmen playing for England.13
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Once or twice on Pro Evolution Soccer.KBslittlesis said:
Did you ever play for Ireland? 🤔CAFCTrev said:
My mum is from Cloyne, but I was born in Leicester. Can't say I feel like an East Cork boi.KBslittlesis said:Just been informed that Lee’s grandmother was from Dunmanway. That’s literally 30 minutes away from me. So he’s a West Cork boi.5 -
Nations League is an absolute nonsense, there will be players making 92nd minute substitution appearances over the next week if not already to ensure they have played " competitive" football. Alice Kinsella competed for GB at the Olympics and did her family proud, the same as her Dad did for Charlton and Ireland at a World Cup. Whilst he might have quietly cringed, knowing the man he would have taken more pride in his daughters achievement then anything else.2
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Is that the English gymnast Alice Kinsella?, the one born in England, grew up in England?, and lives in England?0
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Not all of us born in England and who grew up in England and live in England would describe ourselves as English, but might describe ourselves as British or European or even Londoners.13
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Nobody caresseth plum said:Not all of us born in England and who grew up in England and live in England would describe ourselves as English, but might describe ourselves as British or European or even Londoners.13 -
The same bollocks as “scouse, not English”.seth plum said:Not all of us born in England and who grew up in England and live in England would describe ourselves as English, but might describe ourselves as British or European or even Londoners.
it must be painful to have to find so many ways to be contrarian.10 -
Look at me
Look at me
Look at me.5 -
Does anyone here follow rugby??3
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I was at the game and I can guarantee that you haven’t got over it.TelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha4 -
I wasn’t able to watch the second half due to terrible signal on the way back from Charlton. What was atmosphere like in second half? Similar to a friendly as the match was effectively over after 25 mins.J BLOCK said:
I was at the game and I can guarantee that you haven’t got over it.TelMc32 said:
Not really. England ranked 4th and Ireland 58th. We got over the turncoats years ago, just as we have those who use our passport as a convenience to get their big money moves into Europe. If England find it useful to use Irish players for football & cricket to boost their own scant reserves, good for them 😉ValleyGary said:Rice and Grealish got the paddy's raging haha0 -
SpicedAddick said:Does anyone here follow rugby??
Probably. Freaks of every kind on here.15 -
The reason I ask is because rugby fans tend to be much more relaxed about how important the nation of a players birth is to the nation they represent.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:SpicedAddick said:Does anyone here follow rugby??
Probably. Freaks of every kind on here.1 -
Everybody who posts anything on a public forum is saying look at me.2
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My post was a response to the one about Mark Kinsella’s daughter.SporadicAddick said:
The same bollocks as “scouse, not English”.seth plum said:Not all of us born in England and who grew up in England and live in England would describe ourselves as English, but might describe ourselves as British or European or even Londoners.
it must be painful to have to find so many ways to be contrarian.
People can be British, people can be Europeans, people can be Londoners (or Liverpudlians) and people can be English.
It is their decision, not one to be imposed by others. I don’t believe it to be bollocks as you do.1
