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Access to fans bar

Solidgone
Solidgone Posts: 10,264
in General Charlton
I have a couple of friends that are orient fans. One uses a mobile wheelchair/scooter. He has a parking space in Harvey Gardens.
Q1: Does the Fans Bar (behind the cupboard end) have access for wheelchair/motor scooter chair type thingy?
Q2: Do they allow disable away fans (shirt wearing)? 

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  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,599
    Only open to Charlton fans with match tickets/season tickets and believe they check them on entry. So I'd say no. 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,423
    edited August 2024
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
  • killerjerrylee
    killerjerrylee Posts: 736
    It is for home fans only
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,022
    Solidgone said:
    I have a couple of friends that are orient fans. One uses a mobile wheelchair/scooter. He has a parking space in Harvey Gardens.
    Q1: Does the Fans Bar (behind the cupboard end) have access for wheelchair/motor scooter chair type thingy?
    Q2: Do they allow disable away fans (shirt wearing)? 

    Home fans only. Sorry
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,264
    I would think being discreet about the shirt wearing ie wearing sômething over their shirt should not create a stir. My friends are not hooligans, just total football fans but happen to support the O’s. 
    I must admit I’ve not had to show my ticket on entry on my very rare now visits to the valley but I do respect the views of my fellow Addicks and will not take them there. 

  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,340
    I have seen visiting supporters in Bartrams. Ground floor so no issues there.
    Why don’t you ask the Club? 
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    Solidgone said:
    I would think being discreet about the shirt wearing ie wearing sômething over their shirt should not create a stir. My friends are not hooligans, just total football fans but happen to support the O’s. 
    I must admit I’ve not had to show my ticket on entry on my very rare now visits to the valley but I do respect the views of my fellow Addicks and will not take them there. 

    I normally have to show tickets.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    Redrobo said:
    I have seen visiting supporters in Bartrams. Ground floor so no issues there.
    Why don’t you ask the Club? 
    Email lisa.squires@cafc.co.uk
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,420

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,091
    Home fans is home fans. 

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,435
    Solidgone said:
    I would think being discreet about the shirt wearing ie wearing sômething over their shirt should not create a stir. My friends are not hooligans, just total football fans but happen to support the O’s. 
    I must admit I’ve not had to show my ticket on entry on my very rare now visits to the valley but I do respect the views of my fellow Addicks and will not take them there. 

    If you want to blend in at away grounds, just don't wear colours. 
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,264
    Henry Irving said:
    Redrobo said:
    I have seen visiting supporters in Bartrams. Ground floor so no issues there.
    Why don’t you ask the Club? 
    Email lisa.squires@cafc.co.uk
    I thought Lisa has retired?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,479
    She was working at the Family Fun Day.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,888
    Solidgone said:
    I would think being discreet about the shirt wearing ie wearing sômething over their shirt should not create a stir. My friends are not hooligans, just total football fans but happen to support the O’s. 
    I must admit I’ve not had to show my ticket on entry on my very rare now visits to the valley but I do respect the views of my fellow Addicks and will not take them there. 

    There's a reason it's home fans only  .
    Quite often home fans have birthday parties for young kids etc.
    I've never seen any trouble in there and that's probably because no away fans are allowed. 
    Sorry,  but that's how it is.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,888
    edited August 2024
    There is also a limit as to  how many fans are allowed in.
    I think it's 500.
    Quite often there's a queue outside and people can't get in until someone leaves. 
    It seems very unfair that Charlton fans couldn't gain access because away fans are inside 
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,264
    blackpool72 said:
    There is also a limit as to  how many fans are allowed in.
    I think it's 500.
    Quite often there's a queue outside and people can't get in until someone leaves. 
    It seems very unfair that Charlton fans couldn't gain access because away fans are inside 
    I agree with you and I’ve told my friends that no can do.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,269
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,988
    Pompey were in Bartrams on saturday and its on the ground floor, seems the easiest solution ?
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,109
    Is the fans bar open v Orient? If so what time?
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,109
    DA9 said:
    Is the fans bar open v Orient? If so what time?
    Bump, anyone know?

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,195
    Covered End said:
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
    Surprising, I go in there before every match and after every match, so ~46 times a year (God that’s depressing) and I genuinely don’t recall ever being asked to show my ticket. 

    I don’t really see an issue with away fans going, as long as they aren’t dicks. We were in the Wigan equivalent of Crossbars before the match yesterday which was nice and the Wigan fans were very welcoming and wanted to chat with us about the forthcoming season. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,988
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
    Surprising, I go in there before every match and after every match, so ~46 times a year (God that’s depressing) and I genuinely don’t recall ever being asked to show my ticket. 

    I don’t really see an issue with away fans going, as long as they aren’t dicks. We were in the Wigan equivalent of Crossbars before the match yesterday which was nice and the Wigan fans were very welcoming and wanted to chat with us about the forthcoming season. 
    Bags and tickets on entry every time, maybe they know your face. 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,784
    shine166 said:
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
    Surprising, I go in there before every match and after every match, so ~46 times a year (God that’s depressing) and I genuinely don’t recall ever being asked to show my ticket. 

    I don’t really see an issue with away fans going, as long as they aren’t dicks. We were in the Wigan equivalent of Crossbars before the match yesterday which was nice and the Wigan fans were very welcoming and wanted to chat with us about the forthcoming season. 
    Bags and tickets on entry every time, maybe they know your face. 
    Or he wears a Charlton shirt and it’s obvious he is both a Charlton fan and it’s more than likely he has a ticket for the match ?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,195
    shine166 said:
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
    Surprising, I go in there before every match and after every match, so ~46 times a year (God that’s depressing) and I genuinely don’t recall ever being asked to show my ticket. 

    I don’t really see an issue with away fans going, as long as they aren’t dicks. We were in the Wigan equivalent of Crossbars before the match yesterday which was nice and the Wigan fans were very welcoming and wanted to chat with us about the forthcoming season. 
    Bags and tickets on entry every time, maybe they know your face. 
    Wouldn’t let me in at all if that was the case! 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,195
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    shine166 said:
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
    Surprising, I go in there before every match and after every match, so ~46 times a year (God that’s depressing) and I genuinely don’t recall ever being asked to show my ticket. 

    I don’t really see an issue with away fans going, as long as they aren’t dicks. We were in the Wigan equivalent of Crossbars before the match yesterday which was nice and the Wigan fans were very welcoming and wanted to chat with us about the forthcoming season. 
    Bags and tickets on entry every time, maybe they know your face. 
    Or he wears a Charlton shirt and it’s obvious he is both a Charlton fan and it’s more than likely he has a ticket for the match ?
    He doesn’t.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,888
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
    Surprising, I go in there before every match and after every match, so ~46 times a year (God that’s depressing) and I genuinely don’t recall ever being asked to show my ticket. 

    I don’t really see an issue with away fans going, as long as they aren’t dicks. We were in the Wigan equivalent of Crossbars before the match yesterday which was nice and the Wigan fans were very welcoming and wanted to chat with us about the forthcoming season. 
    As I said on an earlier post.
    Crossbars only holds 500 people. 

    I don't agree with letting away fan's in even if they aren't dicks. 

    If Crossbars was bigger then no problem  ut you often see queues outside now and that's without away fans.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,707
    se9addick said:
    Covered End said:
    swords_alive said:
    It does have access via a lift which from memory is i think close to the lower covered end entrance turnstiles. This probably needs to be unlocked/ turned on as i don't think it is routinely open let alone stewarded (not sure).

    I have only used the bar occasionally but never had my ticket checked. I would think away shirt wearing is a step too far, though personally i would rather everyone use their discretion rather than a blanket rule (which may be asking too much on a permanent basis!). 
    I've been in there more than a hundred times and my ticket has been checked without fail on every occasion for home fans only. 
    Surprising, I go in there before every match and after every match, so ~46 times a year (God that’s depressing) and I genuinely don’t recall ever being asked to show my ticket. 

    I don’t really see an issue with away fans going, as long as they aren’t dicks. We were in the Wigan equivalent of Crossbars before the match yesterday which was nice and the Wigan fans were very welcoming and wanted to chat with us about the forthcoming season. 
    But what if they are dicks?  There are women and children in there and it's a nice chilled atmosphere. Why spoil it.
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 2,684
    I'm not sure how you'd check whether they're a dick either until they're in the bar.

    Some kind of dick test organised beforehand that away fans have to go through?
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,707
    DyerConsequences said:
    I'm not sure how you'd check whether they're a dick either until they're in the bar.

    Some kind of dick test organised beforehand that away fans have to go through?
    A questionnaire perhaps?
    1. Are you from north of the river?
    2. Do you get angry after 2 pints of lager?
    That sort of thing.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,017
    DyerConsequences said:
    I'm not sure how you'd check whether they're a dick either until they're in the bar.

    Some kind of dick test organised beforehand that away fans have to go through?
    Maybe we could ask the Olympic boxing organisers to operate the door policy?

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