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The right thing happened in the end. Will be interesting for the rest of the season , although now Oscar has his Sunday win maybe it will be a bit easier to manage.2
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The trophies look like massive urns2
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Real lack of professionalism on the Radio from a few of them today. Norris didn’t cover himself in glory but if my kid spoke to me the way Verstappen spoke to his engineer they’d be grounded for a week. Although his engineer made a few sarcastic remarks. That was perhaps understandable given how he was being spoken to , but didn’t help. It’s an indication of the culture at that team, and I suspect there won’t be too many consequences for Verstappen within the team so was glad his petulance led to a crash that affected only him and lost him points. He’s a brilliant driver but so unlikable.
At least made for some drama at what tends to be a fairly dull track.4 -
As much as I’m a fan of Lando, he does come across as a whiney prick a times.Exiled_Addick said:Real lack of professionalism on the Radio from a few of them today. Norris didn’t cover himself in glory but if my kid spoke to me the way Verstappen spoke to his engineer they’d be grounded for a week. Although his engineer made a few sarcastic remarks. That was perhaps understandable given how he was being spoken to , but didn’t help. It’s an indication of the culture at that team, and I suspect there won’t be too many consequences for Verstappen within the team so was glad his petulance led to a crash that affected only him and lost him points. He’s a brilliant driver but so unlikable.
At least made for some drama at what tends to be a fairly dull track.4 -
Trying to be like his mate Max.DaveMehmet said:
As much as I’m a fan of Lando, he does come across as a whiney prick a times.Exiled_Addick said:Real lack of professionalism on the Radio from a few of them today. Norris didn’t cover himself in glory but if my kid spoke to me the way Verstappen spoke to his engineer they’d be grounded for a week. Although his engineer made a few sarcastic remarks. That was perhaps understandable given how he was being spoken to , but didn’t help. It’s an indication of the culture at that team, and I suspect there won’t be too many consequences for Verstappen within the team so was glad his petulance led to a crash that affected only him and lost him points. He’s a brilliant driver but so unlikable.
At least made for some drama at what tends to be a fairly dull track.0 -
He’s nowhere near as bad as that w****rsuperclive98 said:
Trying to be like his mate Max.DaveMehmet said:
As much as I’m a fan of Lando, he does come across as a whiney prick a times.Exiled_Addick said:Real lack of professionalism on the Radio from a few of them today. Norris didn’t cover himself in glory but if my kid spoke to me the way Verstappen spoke to his engineer they’d be grounded for a week. Although his engineer made a few sarcastic remarks. That was perhaps understandable given how he was being spoken to , but didn’t help. It’s an indication of the culture at that team, and I suspect there won’t be too many consequences for Verstappen within the team so was glad his petulance led to a crash that affected only him and lost him points. He’s a brilliant driver but so unlikable.
At least made for some drama at what tends to be a fairly dull track.5 -
The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.5 -
I’d like the drivers to be able to switch between team radio and driver radio so they can give each other a good slagging2
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He hasn't before and he won't when it happens again in the future. Red Bull management have made a rod for their own backs by not doing something about it earlier.MarcusH26 said:The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.
Clearly doesn't like not having a dominant car and is starting to throw his toys out of the pram.5 -
superclive98 said:
He hasn't before and he won't when it happens again in the future. Red Bull management have made a rod for their own backs by not doing something about it earlier.MarcusH26 said:The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.
Clearly doesn't like not having a dominant car and is starting to throw his toys out of the pram.
I think the rest of the season is going to be absolutely fascinating to see how Red Bull handle things. Not the fastest car anymore , driver issues on both sides of the garage and the departure of Newey. I still think they'll get a couple of wins but the days of Max checking out by 15 secs and going for a Sunday afternoon drive with no one near him are absolutely gone and I think he's finding that hard to cope with.4 -
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Let's hope that it continues to get worse for them and the team pulls itself apart.MarcusH26 said:superclive98 said:
He hasn't before and he won't when it happens again in the future. Red Bull management have made a rod for their own backs by not doing something about it earlier.MarcusH26 said:The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.
Clearly doesn't like not having a dominant car and is starting to throw his toys out of the pram.
I think the rest of the season is going to be absolutely fascinating to see how Red Bull handle things. Not the fastest car anymore , driver issues on both sides of the garage and the departure of Newey. I still think they'll get a couple of wins but the days of Max checking out by 15 secs and going for a Sunday afternoon drive with no one near him are absolutely gone and I think he's finding that hard to cope with.3 -
Team orders are shite and a mockeryImagine being second in the championship and being instructed to give up a win.
hard enough to convince people it is not just the best car that wins without giving undeserved victories out.4 -
your hatred of Red Bull is just weird! they are based in the UK, employ British staff and help our economy, why would you want them to fail?superclive98 said:
Let's hope that it continues to get worse for them and the team pulls itself apart.MarcusH26 said:superclive98 said:
He hasn't before and he won't when it happens again in the future. Red Bull management have made a rod for their own backs by not doing something about it earlier.MarcusH26 said:The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.
Clearly doesn't like not having a dominant car and is starting to throw his toys out of the pram.
I think the rest of the season is going to be absolutely fascinating to see how Red Bull handle things. Not the fastest car anymore , driver issues on both sides of the garage and the departure of Newey. I still think they'll get a couple of wins but the days of Max checking out by 15 secs and going for a Sunday afternoon drive with no one near him are absolutely gone and I think he's finding that hard to cope with.0 -
Because a lot of people don't like Horner and practically everyone doesn't like Verstappen.Hal1x said:
your hatred of Red Bull is just weird! they are based in the UK, employ British staff and help our economy, why would you want them to fail?superclive98 said:
Let's hope that it continues to get worse for them and the team pulls itself apart.MarcusH26 said:superclive98 said:
He hasn't before and he won't when it happens again in the future. Red Bull management have made a rod for their own backs by not doing something about it earlier.MarcusH26 said:The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.
Clearly doesn't like not having a dominant car and is starting to throw his toys out of the pram.
I think the rest of the season is going to be absolutely fascinating to see how Red Bull handle things. Not the fastest car anymore , driver issues on both sides of the garage and the departure of Newey. I still think they'll get a couple of wins but the days of Max checking out by 15 secs and going for a Sunday afternoon drive with no one near him are absolutely gone and I think he's finding that hard to cope with.
What does their base have to do with anything though? Millwall and Palace are based in the UK, do you want them to win?8 -
They all do it at times. They’re single minded individuals, they have to be to get to the top, and tend to put themselves first, especially in the heat of the moment. I don’t have a huge problem with that, but there are different ways to put those points across and ways to show a bit of humility and self reflection once everything has calmed down.DaveMehmet said:
As much as I’m a fan of Lando, he does come across as a whiney prick a times.Exiled_Addick said:Real lack of professionalism on the Radio from a few of them today. Norris didn’t cover himself in glory but if my kid spoke to me the way Verstappen spoke to his engineer they’d be grounded for a week. Although his engineer made a few sarcastic remarks. That was perhaps understandable given how he was being spoken to , but didn’t help. It’s an indication of the culture at that team, and I suspect there won’t be too many consequences for Verstappen within the team so was glad his petulance led to a crash that affected only him and lost him points. He’s a brilliant driver but so unlikable.
At least made for some drama at what tends to be a fairly dull track.
Verstappen has always had a tendency to communicate in a quite disrespectful and entitled way, even to people on his team, and then is usually pretty belligerent after the event.
Contrast that with how, say, someone like Leclerc conducts himself. He’s at Ferrari so gets shafted by bad team calls more than most, and is from a wealthy background where you might expect some entitlement to creep in, but he tends to take things on the chin much better and holds his hands up when he makes (probably too frequent) mistakes. I guess Verstappen will say he has 3 world titles and doesn’t care if people like him, fair enough, but I don’t know why Red Bull don’t push back on it more - that kind of communication between employees wouldn’t go unchecked in most workplaces.
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Because their management are horrid and so is their main driver. There's nothing likeable about them.Hal1x said:
your hatred of Red Bull is just weird! they are based in the UK, employ British staff and help our economy, why would you want them to fail?superclive98 said:
Let's hope that it continues to get worse for them and the team pulls itself apart.MarcusH26 said:superclive98 said:
He hasn't before and he won't when it happens again in the future. Red Bull management have made a rod for their own backs by not doing something about it earlier.MarcusH26 said:The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.
Clearly doesn't like not having a dominant car and is starting to throw his toys out of the pram.
I think the rest of the season is going to be absolutely fascinating to see how Red Bull handle things. Not the fastest car anymore , driver issues on both sides of the garage and the departure of Newey. I still think they'll get a couple of wins but the days of Max checking out by 15 secs and going for a Sunday afternoon drive with no one near him are absolutely gone and I think he's finding that hard to cope with.5 -
Christ... Was a crazy crash in IndyCar... Few lucky to be walking away from that!!
Pato O'Ward ended up getting hit three times, and had his engine restart in the process1 -
Another interesting F1 race. Think Lando made an error, he should have let him pass much earlier and then gone after him! Good to see Hamilton get his 200th podium.5
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Since when has that been a marker for supporting a team?Hal1x said:
your hatred of Red Bull is just weird! they are based in the UK, employ British staff and help our economy, why would you want them to fail?superclive98 said:
Let's hope that it continues to get worse for them and the team pulls itself apart.MarcusH26 said:superclive98 said:
He hasn't before and he won't when it happens again in the future. Red Bull management have made a rod for their own backs by not doing something about it earlier.MarcusH26 said:The Verstappen and GP Lambasse radio today was absolutely embarrassing from Max and yet he doesn't seem to see anything wrong with how he behaved.
I hope there's a proper debrief from the higher ups but I doubt it.
Clearly doesn't like not having a dominant car and is starting to throw his toys out of the pram.
I think the rest of the season is going to be absolutely fascinating to see how Red Bull handle things. Not the fastest car anymore , driver issues on both sides of the garage and the departure of Newey. I still think they'll get a couple of wins but the days of Max checking out by 15 secs and going for a Sunday afternoon drive with no one near him are absolutely gone and I think he's finding that hard to cope with.Wont ever find me cheering Liverpool in a European competition1 -
Max Verstappen’s PR team have a much easier job when he’s a minute up the road from anyone else. The slightest hint of actually having to race and you’re instantly reminded how unlikeable he is.5
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He could be 10 minutes up the road and have the best PR team in the world, but he'd still be an unlikeable git.SOTF said:Max Verstappen’s PR team have a much easier job when he’s a minute up the road from anyone else. The slightest hint of actually having to race and you’re instantly reminded how unlikeable he is.3 -
I think he hoped that his team mate would take himself out of contention, have an accident.or.suffer.an issue. Stay in front as.long as possible and hope you don't have to give the place backRob7Lee said:Another interesting F1 race. Think Lando made an error, he should have let him pass much earlier and then gone after him! Good to see Hamilton get his 200th podium.0 -
Only just watched the 8 min highlights, why did Norris have to let Piastri by? Seemed well ahead.
Did Max just hate everyone today?0 -
I think they’d agreed as a team that whichever driver was leading at a certain point would be the lead driver and rather than them racing each other their strategy would be to protect the one two in that order.BigRedEvil said:Only just watched the 8 min highlights, why did Norris have to let Piastri by? Seemed well ahead.
Did Max just hate everyone today?
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Piastri was ahead until McLaren done him dirty by pitting Lando first and undercutting him. Lando was adamant that he was faster all race and would have passed him on track anyway but McLaren weren't having it and told him to swap. Lando then got a bit petulant and was showing how much pace he had by pulling away from Piastri, and eventually relented with 3 laps to go after repeatedly being told there's a bigger picture and he needs to think of the whole teamBigRedEvil said:Only just watched the 8 min highlights, why did Norris have to let Piastri by? Seemed well ahead.
Did Max just hate everyone today?2 -
Norris came across as a bit of a prick to Lewis in the cool down room. Hamilton complimenting by saying ‘man, you guys were fast’ and Lando randomly throws some comment about Lewis having a fast car 7 years back. All very odd.4
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Not sure why some people seem to be complaining about the radio behaviour. From a fans point of view it’s fantastic and adds an extra dimension to the race. Verstappen meltdowns and radio rudeness should be encouraged in the same vein as John McEnroe’s outbursts.Would be completely bland if if was just vanilla stuff. Remember race control determine what they do and what they don’t put out, so it might not always be the full picture.3
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sam3110 said:
Piastri was ahead until McLaren done him dirty by pitting Lando first and undercutting him. Lando was adamant that he was faster all race and would have passed him on track anyway but McLaren weren't having it and told him to swap. Lando then got a bit petulant and was showing how much pace he had by pulling away from Piastri, and eventually relented with 3 laps to go after repeatedly being told there's a bigger picture and he needs to think of the whole teamBigRedEvil said:Only just watched the 8 min highlights, why did Norris have to let Piastri by? Seemed well ahead.
Did Max just hate everyone today?
I was waiting for Andrea Stella to takeover the radio like Toto does sometimes if the Mercedes aren't doing what they are told to do. I know Lando has had Will as his race engineer for years but you could tell things were getting more and more terse the longer it went on.2 -
Was I the only one not really understanding McLarens rulings? When they told Norris to swap immediately after Piastri’s pitted there was still 22 laps left. Max had just gone on brand new mediums compared to their scrubbed and there was no certainty he wouldn’t eat into the gap.Any safety car in that period would have really impacted, so to tell Lando to erode 4 seconds of that lead to allow Piastri to catch and pass just didn’t seem the right strategy.Would have led to another issue of Norris wanting to race Piaistri over 20+ laps and why shouldn’t he if Piastiri locked up etc5
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Seemed a bizarre decision to pit Lando first when Oscar was in the lead and I'm fairly sure the explanation of covering off Lewis was just made as an excuse. They basically seemed to hand the race to Lando and then tell him to hand it back again.
No tears for Max, whiny little shit.3
