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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142
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But he’s signed a pre contract. It’s binding. If he wants to get out of it it’s going to cost him.se9addick said:
I don’t know, I think there’s still the chance of a twist in this tale. I don’t think you realise how chaotic things are at Charlton!Vjacheslav said:
Ok. I see you point, but it is doesn't matter, he is gone, and left the club latest at the summer. 3 days still remain from the hungarian tranfer window.se9addick said:
It must be a pre-contract if he’s staying at Charlton for now. I don’t think a player can be contracted to two clubs at once and, I presume, the team in Hungary won’t start paying his wages until July 1st. So I think, as of now, he is contracted to Charlton and, at best, pre-contracted to Fehervar.Vjacheslav said:
It is not a precontract. He officialy signed with us from the summer.valleynick66 said:
Maybe the shirt picture was in London but I also think he must have visited Hungary to know he wants to commit his immediate future there?Vjacheslav said:
If you compared the shirt picture with this one:valleynick66 said:Lots of misinformation here.Said on Twitter flying only on Monday to sign but pictured already with a shirt and apparently already signed?
I don’t see how NJ has been able to much influence. If the deal was already done and he was training with the U23s then NJ won’t have seen him much to make a call on this would he?
Feels more like the SMT have got cold feet maybe and said to NJ use him as you need to.If NJ has influenced I wonder who behind the scenes has vouched for Dobson and said he potentially makes or breaks our season?
https://www.fehervarfc.hu/en/news/slovenian-national-team-striker-joins-vidi
You can see the diffence.
My point of view, after the collaps of the transfer, we sign the contract with him from the summer, not in Hungary but in London.
Is it possible the contract from the summer is only an intention to sign and he is not obliged to follow through?0 -
I can’t actually believe the amount of people backing Dobson on this over the club, he got offered an increase and rejected us to move on regardless if he wanted more than Watson etc maybe they shouldn’t be on those wages either.21
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Surely you can’t think the club have handled this well??? They are deservedly being criticised for the absolute farce this has been and the probable impact that has on the dressing roomYann897 said:I can’t actually believe the amount of people backing Dobson on this over the club, he got offered an increase and rejected us to move on regardless if he wanted more than Watson etc maybe they shouldn’t be on those wages either.17 -
Also points that him and his advisors don’t think they will get a satisfactory offer from another English team as well.SELR_addicks said:
We don't know what was on the table, no.YTS1978 said:
Or the alternative view, as posted by some on here, was that we did offer him what he wanted (eventually, but probably too late). I personally would have offered him a decent wedge, but none of us really know what was on the table. The fact he was out of the first team picture last week makes sense as there was no point if he was leaving. Maybe they thought we might as well pick up a few quid ala CBT, but then Jones stepped in after Saturdays performance? I just can't see how this affects other players to such a great degree. I get that he's captain, but he'd signed for another team at the start of Jan so we're lead to believe and it's now affected some senior players? We have abt 10 players out of contract at the end of the season, so god help us if they're all mates and their buddies don't get what they're after ha!SELR_addicks said:
Probably quite demotivating to see your club captain being disrespected and told he's not worthy of a decent contract. Then to be kicked out of the squad into the under-23s so we can get a couple of thousand pounds to let him leave early.YTS1978 said:Addick_8 said:Know for a fact 2 of our better players are absolutely furious about how this was handled (over the last few weeks) and it’s been on show in some of the games. I’m not going to name names but it’s fairly obvious who looks pissed off.I read some of the anti-Dobson comments on here and some are truly painful to comprehend some managed to get to those conclusions.Dobson new contract was less than one of the worst right backs I’ve seen in my lifetime - that’s a fact. Because one person doesn’t rate him but rates the absolute dross they oversee coming in.One of the things Nathan Jones presumably learnt yesterday as he mentioned, is that Coventry isn’t as good as Dobson (currently) - despite some acting like we had signed Pirlo after seeing him play a handful of games. So I hope that Jones has gone above Scott and had a say in him staying.That leaves Andy Scott in the lurch and rightly so, league table doesn’t lie.Shambles.
Sorry, but that's complete bollocks. Dobson is a free agent come the summer and has obviously had his agent on the case. He gets an offer from Hungary, Charlton have ummed and arred about their offer (rightly or wrongly) and George decided he wanted to leave. Why the fuck would two other players be so pissed off about another blokes contract negotiations? So much so that it affects their own performance FFS! There's practically no one in the squad that would have known the bloke for more than 2yrs either! And if other players are worried abt this type of shit they need to man up and up their fucking game rather than under performing and taking the money. It's football, players move on, so deal with it. Hopefully a strong character like Jones will drum it into this lot that they're fucking lucky to be there, cut the bitching out and start banging some goals in rather than complaining...not naming names. Oh, for the record I'm a fan of Dobson and I'm happy he appears to be staying. Really hope he can play a part in keeping us up. COYA
It would show the lack of loyalty the management have towards some of their players.
But the fact he'd rather go to Hungary and ply his trade rather than staying here, points to it not being a satisfactory number. Otherwise he would just stay.
If he's being messed about as is reported, other players may be getting worried about their own contract negotiations in the future.
Like you said, 10 players are out of contract at the end of the season and if they've seen Dobson get screwed over, why wouldn't they too?2 -
Having Dobbo back will feel like a new signing.35
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Or cost a club that wants to sign him or indeed a club who stopped listening to their failure of a technical director and wanted to keep him.LargeAddick said:
But he’s signed a pre contract. It’s binding. If he wants to get out of it it’s going to cost him.se9addick said:
I don’t know, I think there’s still the chance of a twist in this tale. I don’t think you realise how chaotic things are at Charlton!Vjacheslav said:
Ok. I see you point, but it is doesn't matter, he is gone, and left the club latest at the summer. 3 days still remain from the hungarian tranfer window.se9addick said:
It must be a pre-contract if he’s staying at Charlton for now. I don’t think a player can be contracted to two clubs at once and, I presume, the team in Hungary won’t start paying his wages until July 1st. So I think, as of now, he is contracted to Charlton and, at best, pre-contracted to Fehervar.Vjacheslav said:
It is not a precontract. He officialy signed with us from the summer.valleynick66 said:
Maybe the shirt picture was in London but I also think he must have visited Hungary to know he wants to commit his immediate future there?Vjacheslav said:
If you compared the shirt picture with this one:valleynick66 said:Lots of misinformation here.Said on Twitter flying only on Monday to sign but pictured already with a shirt and apparently already signed?
I don’t see how NJ has been able to much influence. If the deal was already done and he was training with the U23s then NJ won’t have seen him much to make a call on this would he?
Feels more like the SMT have got cold feet maybe and said to NJ use him as you need to.If NJ has influenced I wonder who behind the scenes has vouched for Dobson and said he potentially makes or breaks our season?
https://www.fehervarfc.hu/en/news/slovenian-national-team-striker-joins-vidi
You can see the diffence.
My point of view, after the collaps of the transfer, we sign the contract with him from the summer, not in Hungary but in London.
Is it possible the contract from the summer is only an intention to sign and he is not obliged to follow through?4 -
Yep Dobbo spoke very highly of May to Holden before he was signed, something along the lines of “ he’s a proper player” and they bonded from day one. The other I reckon could be either CB Jones or Hector, not ITK just gut feeling.fenaddick said:On the claim above that 2 players are pissed off, one is clearly May but who is the other? Can’t think of anyone who shows they care enough to be annoyed3 -
It hasn’t gone down well but if they had a wage budget they had for Dobson and they won’t go over it then tough, we’ve been crap for two years and he’s been our defensive midfielder and captain in that time something doesn’t ring right there.NabySarr said:
Surely you can’t think the club have handled this well??? They are deservedly being criticised for the absolute farce this has been and the probable impact that has on the dressing roomYann897 said:I can’t actually believe the amount of people backing Dobson on this over the club, he got offered an increase and rejected us to move on regardless if he wanted more than Watson etc maybe they shouldn’t be on those wages either.It isn’t like we’re not offering him a new deal he got offered an improved contract and our club captain has rejected us for a team in Hungary and he’s getting spoke about like a legend it’s a joke and I can’t get my head round it.5 -
THERE IT ISStrikerFirmani said:Having Dobbo back will feel like a new signing.
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Ok so lets give @Vjacheslav a break when we are arguing about legal comtractual definitions, he‘s doing his best with both a foreign language a different legal code. Take it out on me if you like because I‘m now pretty confused and I thought I had enough experience of this shit.
its been a while but I seem to recall that when I last moved jobs in the UK, I signed an employment contract with my new employer several weeks ahead of the start date. It was necessary to give me the confidence to resign the existing job knowing the new one was definite, and gave the new agency confidence that I wouldn‘t be swayed by a counter-offer from existing employer or another agency I might have been talking to. I don‘t recall it was called a Pre-comtract agreement, superseded by the real contract the day I started, but it might have been.Is that not still how it works in normal employment in the UK? Its different in CZ , the employment contract starts only on the first day of work, so instead people sign Letters of Intent, but they are not legally enforceable.
someone who knows please set me (and most of the rest of us) straight.4 - Sponsored links:
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Yann, I am not privy to Dobson's wages or the proposed wage increase he was offered but there is some sort of comparison to be made within the squad. How much do you think Conor Coventry is earning at Charlton ? If you think that Conor Coventry is playing for Charlton on the same wages or on the proposed wage increase offered to George Dobson then you probably are drinking to excess.Yann897 said:I can’t actually believe the amount of people backing Dobson on this over the club, he got offered an increase and rejected us to move on regardless if he wanted more than Watson etc maybe they shouldn’t be on those wages either.2 -
StrikerFirmani said:Having Dobbo back will feel like a new signing.
Which given our recent track record means going to be a bit shit and we're defo getting relegated now6 -
Dobbo staying for the final 15 games is a really big relief and increases our chances of beating the drop, although the fight for survival will almost certainly go down to the wire. The fact that he's signed a pre-contract agreement makes sense from his perspective, as it provides some financial security in the event of him picking up a nasty injury.
I've no concerns whatsoever about Dobbo continuing to give his all for the club, as he has done from the first moment he walked in the door. The man is a commensurate professional.
As for Andy Scott, I expect the full story of what went on will come out at some stage but most Charlton supporters (me included) have concluded that he has been an abject failure at our club. He had great success at Brentford in his first full season as manager, winning the 2008/09 League 2 championship, but after being sacked there in January 2011, he subsequently failed as a manager at Rotherham and Aldershot. Interestingly, his Wikipedia page quotes him as saying that he would not return to football management and goes on to say that he had been "in management for a reason and that was to develop players, organise teams and get everyone playing the way I wanted to play. Realistically, where I was going to go after Aldershot was scrambling around at that level, I didn’t want to be a journeyman manager applying for every job. Now I’m forging out a new career where I’m fortunate to be in the position I am in".
He is, indeed, fortunate to be Technical Director at Charlton; sadly, his tenure has, thus far, proved potentially disastrous for the club and its supporters, as we stare into the abyss of League 2.20 -
Think the thing that complicates it is that in practice it’s different for footballers than everyday citizens. If I want to change jobs I can just resign and join a new company, a footballer can’t do that so there are different rules.PragueAddick said:Ok so lets give @Vjacheslav a break when we are arguing about legal comtractual definitions, he‘s doing his best with both a foreign language a different legal code. Take it out on me if you like because I‘m now pretty confused and I thought I had enough experience of this shit.
its been a while but I seem to recall that when I last moved jobs in the UK, I signed an employment contract with my new employer several weeks ahead of the start date. It was necessary to give me the confidence to resign the existing job knowing the new one was definite, and gave the new agency confidence that I wouldn‘t be swayed by a counter-offer from existing employer or another agency I might have been talking to. I don‘t recall it was called a Pre-comtract agreement, superseded by the real contract the day I started, but it might have been.Is that not still how it works in normal employment in the UK? Its different in CZ , the employment contract starts only on the first day of work, so instead people sign Letters of Intent, but they are not legally enforceable.
someone who knows please set me (and most of the rest of us) straight.
In effect Dobson has signed off his registration as of 1st July. Of course someone else could offer to buy it off the Hungarian team but the Hungarian team would be entitled to compensation that they set.
A good rule is to never assume a footballers contract is like yours, with the greatest of respect none of us are likely to be valuable assets worth 6 figures to our employer, that changes things.2 -
I am glad Dobson is staying for now and hope the Hungarian move falls through and he and the club agree a deal.
The tiny cameo from Camara yesterday plus this news, provides a slither of hope in the morass of despair.18 -
If this club is to mount a fight against relegation then the return of George Dobson and the dismissal of Andy Scott would be the biggest motivational lift that the club could provide.Blucher said:Dobbo staying for the final 15 games is a really big relief and increases our chances of beating the drop, although the fight for survival will almost certainly go down to the wire. The fact that he's signed a pre-contract agreement makes sense from his perspective, as it provides some financial security in the event of him picking up a nasty injury.
I've no concerns whatsoever about Dobbo continuing to give his all for the club, as he has done from the first moment he walked in the door. The man is a commensurate professional.
As for Andy Scott, I expect the full story of what went on will come out fully at some stage but most Charlton supporters (me included) have concluded that he has been an abject failure at our club. He had great success at Brentford in his first full season as manager, winning the 2008/09 League 2 championship, but after being sacked there in January 2011, he subsequently failed as a manager at Rotherham and Aldershot. Interestingly, his Wikipedia page quotes him as saying that he would not return to football management and goes on to say that he had been "in management for a reason and that was to develop players, organise teams and get everyone playing the way I wanted to play. Realistically, where I was going to go after Aldershot was scrambling around at that level, I didn’t want to be a journeyman manager applying for every job. Now I’m forging out a new career where I’m fortunate to be in the position I am in".
He is, indeed, fortunate to be Technical Director at Charlton; sadly, his tenure has, thus far, proved potentially disastrous for the club and its supporters, as we stare into the abyss of League 2.6 -
Only at Charlton can a player we idolise want away and play for a club who numbers Vlad the Impaler on its board.6
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Not much point in blocking the move otherwise.Lincsaddick said:
Agreed, BUT will he ever be selected again ?thickandthin63 said:George will know how much the fans appreciate is efforts,and I am sure he will give everything in his remaining time with us.His contribution will be the difference to going down or staying up.0 -
None of us really know the full details of the contract offer from CAFC or what led to Dobson deciding Hungary was his best option going forward.I am just glad he will be around until the end of the season, I would rather he is doing what he does best in our midfield than sitting it out or being in Budapest.In any desperate situation you want the fighters to be on your side and whatever he lacks technically he has never let us down in effort and I don't see that starting now regardless of the bizarre circumstances that get us here.I hope he starts Tuesday and now this whole contract nonsense is out in the open that his return to the side can galvanize the rest of the side to stop its slow sleepwalk towards League 2.3
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There are a very small number of people that have said they didn’t rate Dobson. Let’s not all go OTT and make out it was loads of people, as a lot of you are on here. The vast majority of us want(ed) him to stay and are gutted he’s going.17
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Scott had already signed Bakinson and Coventry.Yann897 said:I can’t actually believe the amount of people backing Dobson on this over the club, he got offered an increase and rejected us to move on regardless if he wanted more than Watson etc maybe they shouldn’t be on those wages either.
It was clear he didn't rate Dobson and wanted him out. Now you think he'd turn around and offer Dobson what he asked for? I know who I'd believe.3 -
I hear you SELR, but has he really been screwed over? Sounds to me that he's just gone for the best offer, like we'd all do! The club can't offer him less to stay, they have to improve the contract. It's out there that they did, but obviously by not enough for his liking. That's fine.SELR_addicks said:
We don't know what was on the table, no.YTS1978 said:
Or the alternative view, as posted by some on here, was that we did offer him what he wanted (eventually, but probably too late). I personally would have offered him a decent wedge, but none of us really know what was on the table. The fact he was out of the first team picture last week makes sense as there was no point if he was leaving. Maybe they thought we might as well pick up a few quid ala CBT, but then Jones stepped in after Saturdays performance? I just can't see how this affects other players to such a great degree. I get that he's captain, but he'd signed for another team at the start of Jan so we're lead to believe and it's now affected some senior players? We have abt 10 players out of contract at the end of the season, so god help us if they're all mates and their buddies don't get what they're after ha!SELR_addicks said:
Probably quite demotivating to see your club captain being disrespected and told he's not worthy of a decent contract. Then to be kicked out of the squad into the under-23s so we can get a couple of thousand pounds to let him leave early.YTS1978 said:Addick_8 said:Know for a fact 2 of our better players are absolutely furious about how this was handled (over the last few weeks) and it’s been on show in some of the games. I’m not going to name names but it’s fairly obvious who looks pissed off.I read some of the anti-Dobson comments on here and some are truly painful to comprehend some managed to get to those conclusions.Dobson new contract was less than one of the worst right backs I’ve seen in my lifetime - that’s a fact. Because one person doesn’t rate him but rates the absolute dross they oversee coming in.One of the things Nathan Jones presumably learnt yesterday as he mentioned, is that Coventry isn’t as good as Dobson (currently) - despite some acting like we had signed Pirlo after seeing him play a handful of games. So I hope that Jones has gone above Scott and had a say in him staying.That leaves Andy Scott in the lurch and rightly so, league table doesn’t lie.Shambles.
Sorry, but that's complete bollocks. Dobson is a free agent come the summer and has obviously had his agent on the case. He gets an offer from Hungary, Charlton have ummed and arred about their offer (rightly or wrongly) and George decided he wanted to leave. Why the fuck would two other players be so pissed off about another blokes contract negotiations? So much so that it affects their own performance FFS! There's practically no one in the squad that would have known the bloke for more than 2yrs either! And if other players are worried abt this type of shit they need to man up and up their fucking game rather than under performing and taking the money. It's football, players move on, so deal with it. Hopefully a strong character like Jones will drum it into this lot that they're fucking lucky to be there, cut the bitching out and start banging some goals in rather than complaining...not naming names. Oh, for the record I'm a fan of Dobson and I'm happy he appears to be staying. Really hope he can play a part in keeping us up. COYA
It would show the lack of loyalty the management have towards some of their players.
But the fact he'd rather go to Hungary and ply his trade rather than staying here, points to it not being a satisfactory number. Otherwise he would just stay.
If he's being messed about as is reported, other players may be getting worried about their own contract negotiations in the future.
Like you said, 10 players are out of contract at the end of the season and if they've seen Dobson get screwed over, why wouldn't they too?
My comment re the 10 or so players was a bit tongue in cheek tbh, as there's not many out of contract players I'd be desperate to keep. Unfortunately Dobson was one I would have liked to have signed up, but it wasn't to be. Glad we have him for the remainder of the season. COYA.3 -
And generally it's actually been people saying he's the best player in the team but that that's an indictment on the team. I think most people on here think he's a good top end L1 player at the very leastJ BLOCK said:There are a very small number of people that have said they didn’t rate Dobson. Let’s not all go OTT and make out it was loads of people, as a lot of you are on here. The vast majority of us want(ed) him to stay and are gutted he’s going.3 -
Dobson's replacements were signed in January. If that wasn't a clear signal of what Scott wanted, I don't know what to tell you.YTS1978 said:
I hear you SELR, but has he really been screwed over? Sounds to me that he's just gone for the best offer, like we'd all do! The club can't offer him less to stay, they have to improve the contract. It's out there that they did, but obviously by not enough for his liking. That's fine.SELR_addicks said:
We don't know what was on the table, no.YTS1978 said:
Or the alternative view, as posted by some on here, was that we did offer him what he wanted (eventually, but probably too late). I personally would have offered him a decent wedge, but none of us really know what was on the table. The fact he was out of the first team picture last week makes sense as there was no point if he was leaving. Maybe they thought we might as well pick up a few quid ala CBT, but then Jones stepped in after Saturdays performance? I just can't see how this affects other players to such a great degree. I get that he's captain, but he'd signed for another team at the start of Jan so we're lead to believe and it's now affected some senior players? We have abt 10 players out of contract at the end of the season, so god help us if they're all mates and their buddies don't get what they're after ha!SELR_addicks said:
Probably quite demotivating to see your club captain being disrespected and told he's not worthy of a decent contract. Then to be kicked out of the squad into the under-23s so we can get a couple of thousand pounds to let him leave early.YTS1978 said:Addick_8 said:Know for a fact 2 of our better players are absolutely furious about how this was handled (over the last few weeks) and it’s been on show in some of the games. I’m not going to name names but it’s fairly obvious who looks pissed off.I read some of the anti-Dobson comments on here and some are truly painful to comprehend some managed to get to those conclusions.Dobson new contract was less than one of the worst right backs I’ve seen in my lifetime - that’s a fact. Because one person doesn’t rate him but rates the absolute dross they oversee coming in.One of the things Nathan Jones presumably learnt yesterday as he mentioned, is that Coventry isn’t as good as Dobson (currently) - despite some acting like we had signed Pirlo after seeing him play a handful of games. So I hope that Jones has gone above Scott and had a say in him staying.That leaves Andy Scott in the lurch and rightly so, league table doesn’t lie.Shambles.
Sorry, but that's complete bollocks. Dobson is a free agent come the summer and has obviously had his agent on the case. He gets an offer from Hungary, Charlton have ummed and arred about their offer (rightly or wrongly) and George decided he wanted to leave. Why the fuck would two other players be so pissed off about another blokes contract negotiations? So much so that it affects their own performance FFS! There's practically no one in the squad that would have known the bloke for more than 2yrs either! And if other players are worried abt this type of shit they need to man up and up their fucking game rather than under performing and taking the money. It's football, players move on, so deal with it. Hopefully a strong character like Jones will drum it into this lot that they're fucking lucky to be there, cut the bitching out and start banging some goals in rather than complaining...not naming names. Oh, for the record I'm a fan of Dobson and I'm happy he appears to be staying. Really hope he can play a part in keeping us up. COYA
It would show the lack of loyalty the management have towards some of their players.
But the fact he'd rather go to Hungary and ply his trade rather than staying here, points to it not being a satisfactory number. Otherwise he would just stay.
If he's being messed about as is reported, other players may be getting worried about their own contract negotiations in the future.
Like you said, 10 players are out of contract at the end of the season and if they've seen Dobson get screwed over, why wouldn't they too?
My comment re the 10 or so players was a bit tongue in cheek tbh, as there's not many out of contract players I'd be desperate to keep. Unfortunately Dobson was one I would have liked to have signed up, but it wasn't to be. Glad we have him for the remainder of the season. COYA.
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So, double bubble for AS in the sense of " Was that really good business or flawed scouting ?"SELR_addicks said:
Scott had already signed Bakinson and Coventry.Yann897 said:I can’t actually believe the amount of people backing Dobson on this over the club, he got offered an increase and rejected us to move on regardless if he wanted more than Watson etc maybe they shouldn’t be on those wages either.
It was clear he didn't rate Dobson and wanted him out. Now you think he'd turn around and offer Dobson what he asked for? I know who I'd believe.
Of course he won't do a U turn regarding Dobbo. Couldn't stand the reactions that would follow.
Only one way to go, Andy .....
...exit stage left.6 -
Well, Dobson also agreed his deal in Jan, so I'm not quite sure of YOUR point? If we'd not signed another midfielder and Dobson had fucked off then everyone would be going mad! Coventry's arrival was greeted very well, even though the Dobson rumours were flying around at the time. Anyway, we've got George for a few more games, so hopefully he'll contribute.SELR_addicks said:
Dobson's replacements were signed in January. If that wasn't a clear signal of what Scott wanted, I don't know what to tell you.YTS1978 said:
I hear you SELR, but has he really been screwed over? Sounds to me that he's just gone for the best offer, like we'd all do! The club can't offer him less to stay, they have to improve the contract. It's out there that they did, but obviously by not enough for his liking. That's fine.SELR_addicks said:
We don't know what was on the table, no.YTS1978 said:
Or the alternative view, as posted by some on here, was that we did offer him what he wanted (eventually, but probably too late). I personally would have offered him a decent wedge, but none of us really know what was on the table. The fact he was out of the first team picture last week makes sense as there was no point if he was leaving. Maybe they thought we might as well pick up a few quid ala CBT, but then Jones stepped in after Saturdays performance? I just can't see how this affects other players to such a great degree. I get that he's captain, but he'd signed for another team at the start of Jan so we're lead to believe and it's now affected some senior players? We have abt 10 players out of contract at the end of the season, so god help us if they're all mates and their buddies don't get what they're after ha!SELR_addicks said:
Probably quite demotivating to see your club captain being disrespected and told he's not worthy of a decent contract. Then to be kicked out of the squad into the under-23s so we can get a couple of thousand pounds to let him leave early.YTS1978 said:Addick_8 said:Know for a fact 2 of our better players are absolutely furious about how this was handled (over the last few weeks) and it’s been on show in some of the games. I’m not going to name names but it’s fairly obvious who looks pissed off.I read some of the anti-Dobson comments on here and some are truly painful to comprehend some managed to get to those conclusions.Dobson new contract was less than one of the worst right backs I’ve seen in my lifetime - that’s a fact. Because one person doesn’t rate him but rates the absolute dross they oversee coming in.One of the things Nathan Jones presumably learnt yesterday as he mentioned, is that Coventry isn’t as good as Dobson (currently) - despite some acting like we had signed Pirlo after seeing him play a handful of games. So I hope that Jones has gone above Scott and had a say in him staying.That leaves Andy Scott in the lurch and rightly so, league table doesn’t lie.Shambles.
Sorry, but that's complete bollocks. Dobson is a free agent come the summer and has obviously had his agent on the case. He gets an offer from Hungary, Charlton have ummed and arred about their offer (rightly or wrongly) and George decided he wanted to leave. Why the fuck would two other players be so pissed off about another blokes contract negotiations? So much so that it affects their own performance FFS! There's practically no one in the squad that would have known the bloke for more than 2yrs either! And if other players are worried abt this type of shit they need to man up and up their fucking game rather than under performing and taking the money. It's football, players move on, so deal with it. Hopefully a strong character like Jones will drum it into this lot that they're fucking lucky to be there, cut the bitching out and start banging some goals in rather than complaining...not naming names. Oh, for the record I'm a fan of Dobson and I'm happy he appears to be staying. Really hope he can play a part in keeping us up. COYA
It would show the lack of loyalty the management have towards some of their players.
But the fact he'd rather go to Hungary and ply his trade rather than staying here, points to it not being a satisfactory number. Otherwise he would just stay.
If he's being messed about as is reported, other players may be getting worried about their own contract negotiations in the future.
Like you said, 10 players are out of contract at the end of the season and if they've seen Dobson get screwed over, why wouldn't they too?
My comment re the 10 or so players was a bit tongue in cheek tbh, as there's not many out of contract players I'd be desperate to keep. Unfortunately Dobson was one I would have liked to have signed up, but it wasn't to be. Glad we have him for the remainder of the season. COYA.
I guarantee it was for more money than Dobson asked for as well.
Edit. I guess it's called forward planning1 -
If this pre contract neescis true . Then would Dobson risk his move to this club by getting injured playing for us. Or will he want to sit out the rest of the season.0
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I’ve never been a massive fan of Dobbo but that’s cos I’m a football snob and want players who are gonna get us promoted and hold our own in the championship and I doubt he could do that .
unfortunately we are nowhere near a club looking for promotion and being able to hold a position in the championship
we are a club who consistently sign shit players and he is clearly one if not the best of a bad shithouse bunch .
we are in the worst footballing period (do I need to explain what that means to some of the more simple members of our fan base) in our lifetimes this deep in to a season and we need all hands to the pump and to get as many of our better fit players out on the pitch and he is first choice for me of those currently available .
At least they’ve realised we’re in the brown stuff and know Dobbo is required .9 -
I don't believe pre contracts are legally binding. Based on the above, I reckon there's a deal to be done if Scott goes and Jones wants him.13
