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George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

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  • This don't look good, and certainly a strange move for George, now I don't know his personal life obviously, but he came out with I assume his young child last night, in what looked like a goodbye to The Valley...
    Can see him leaving this window, as there is an offer on the table from this Hungarian mob, real shame as Dobson is a real kingpin, but no point hanging onto someone who wants to be elsewhere...
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,224
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,552
    Crusty54 said:
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
    What? If what you say is true who would buy him for six months?
  • Crusty54 said:
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
    What? If what you say is true who would buy him for six months?
    The sale offer is from the Hungarian lot...
  • WhenIwasLittleBoy
    WhenIwasLittleBoy Posts: 5,430
    edited January 2024
    George comes and said to Mrs D.. “ we are moving abroad love…I have agreed to sign for a club in Europe and get us more money”
    Mrs D..” oh Georgie that’s fantastic…Spain? Italy ? France? Portugal ? Germany? “
    George “ Nah babe…Hungary “
    @k@@g Hungary? I am fileing for divorce tomorrow..”
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,552
    Crusty54 said:
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
    What? If what you say is true who would buy him for six months?
    The sale offer is from the Hungarian lot...
    Maybe me being dense. He’s already signed a pre contract to join them 1st July at which point he leaves on a free or they may choose to buy him this month for a fee. Have I got that right?
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,471
    edited January 2024
    Crusty54 said:
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
    What? If what you say is true who would buy him for six months?
    The sale offer is from the Hungarian lot...
    Maybe me being dense. He’s already signed a pre contract to join them 1st July at which point he leaves on a free or they may choose to buy him this month for a fee. Have I got that right?
    Sort of correct..
    • Charlton Athletic captain George Dobson has agreed a pre-contract with Fehérvár FC, set to join as a free agent on July 1st.
    •  Despite offers from Charlton, negotiations have dragged on, leading to Dobson agreeing to join Fehérvár on a pre-contract.
    •  Charlton still have a permanent offer from Fehérvár and may sell Dobson before the winter window closes.

    As per Ned Holmes at FLW
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,552
    Crusty54 said:
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
    What? If what you say is true who would buy him for six months?
    The sale offer is from the Hungarian lot...
    Maybe me being dense. He’s already signed a pre contract to join them 1st July at which point he leaves on a free or they may choose to buy him this month for a fee. Have I got that right?
    Sort of correct..
    • Charlton Athletic captain George Dobson has agreed a pre-contract with Fehérvár FC, set to join as a free agent on July 1st.
    •  Despite offers from Charlton, negotiations have dragged on, leading to Dobson agreeing to join Fehérvár on a pre-contract.
    •  Charlton still have a permanent offer from Fehérvár and may sell Dobson before the winter window closes.
    But why would they pay a fee when he’s joining them five months later for free, doesn’t make sense.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,552
    And are we just going on what Ned Holmes has said whoever he is?
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,471
    edited January 2024
    Crusty54 said:
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
    What? If what you say is true who would buy him for six months?
    The sale offer is from the Hungarian lot...
    Maybe me being dense. He’s already signed a pre contract to join them 1st July at which point he leaves on a free or they may choose to buy him this month for a fee. Have I got that right?
    Sort of correct..
    • Charlton Athletic captain George Dobson has agreed a pre-contract with Fehérvár FC, set to join as a free agent on July 1st.
    •  Despite offers from Charlton, negotiations have dragged on, leading to Dobson agreeing to join Fehérvár on a pre-contract.
    •  Charlton still have a permanent offer from Fehérvár and may sell Dobson before the winter window closes.
    But why would they pay a fee when he’s joining them five months later for free, doesn’t make sense.
    Guess it's their choice, have him now or later, agree, a strange arrangement but there you are, so it seems he can go for a fee, probably ridiculously low, or free 1st July...🤷‍♂️
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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,023
    Never trusted FootballLeagueWorld as a source . If this was coming from Cawley or someone like Pete O'Rourke I'd give it credence. Just doesn't make any kind of sense to me. 
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,032
    FLW have absolutely no sources or connections close to clubs and are a clickbait marketing farm which part of a wider conglomerate of shit sports news sites. This may well happen but I would wager that they are absolutely guessing based off a real journalist (Rich Cawley's) insight.
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    Crusty54 said:
    Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    He’s already signed a pre contract deal to join them on 1st July. Charlton could opt to sell him him before next week. 
    I should imagine that the money on the table the Hungarian mob would be minimal.  We are better off keeping hold of him for the relegation battle. No much difference to a loan signing until the end of the season - except he gives a shit. I’d much rather Dobson playing at 25% than Fiorini at 100%! 
  • Chunes said:
    Just can't see it happening unless they've offered him silly money. 
    The side after him (Fehervar) have an average league crowd of less than 4k this season, so surely they don't have tons of money.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,471
    edited January 2024
    Looks like the same story being printed on "Newsnow", quoting Cawley

    Charlton Athletic midfielder and club captain George Dobson has been linked with a move to Hungarian giants Fehervar.

    It has now been revealed by journalist Richard Cawley of the South London Press that a bid has indeed been made for the 26-year-old and he could well leave the club this January.

    So there you are, ready to be told otherwise

  • Sell him now and take the money..more than enough cover in that position 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    A bid has indeed been made, it says. That doesn't say it has been accepted 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited January 2024
    At least we get him until the end of the season. We’re gonna need him. 
    Edit: seen the update. Maybe not.
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,032
    edited January 2024
    Looks like the same story being printed on "Newsnow", quoting Cawley

    Charlton Athletic midfielder and club captain George Dobson has been linked with a move to Hungarian giants Fehervar.

    It has now been revealed by journalist Richard Cawley of the South London Press that a bid has indeed been made for the 26-year-old and he could well leave the club this January.

    So there you are, ready to be told otherwise

    NewsNow is a news aggregator which pulls headlines and articles from all over the internet not an independent source, it is likely regurgitating the exact same FLW article. In this case it just links to the Cawley article that says a bit has been made, nothing about it being agreed 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,471
    edited January 2024
    Looks like the same story being printed on "Newsnow", quoting Cawley

    Charlton Athletic midfielder and club captain George Dobson has been linked with a move to Hungarian giants Fehervar.

    It has now been revealed by journalist Richard Cawley of the South London Press that a bid has indeed been made for the 26-year-old and he could well leave the club this January.

    So there you are, ready to be told otherwise

    NewsNow is a news aggregator which pulls headlines and articles from all over the internet not an independent source, it is likely regurgitating the exact same FLW article. In this case it just links to the Cawley article that says a bit has been made, nothing about it being agreed 
    While quoting Rich Cawley,...anyway, really make of it what you like, bid has been made, whether it is accepted is up for contention, getting bored with it all already!!!...🙄
    By the way, I never said anything had been agreed, just that an offer was on the table...ok
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  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,249
    George comes and said to Mrs D.. “ we are moving abroad love…I have agreed to sign for a club in Europe and get us more money”
    Mrs D..” oh Georgie that’s fantastic…Spain? Italy ? France? Portugal ? Germany? “
    George “ Nah babe…Hungary “
    @k@@g Hungary? I am fileing for divorce tomorrow..”
    Hungary has some beautiful countryside. Cost of living about half here. Pro family government policies. His new club is 50m drive from Budapest.
  • Dobson choosing to leave, I entirely understand.

    Dobson choosing to go to Hungary still feels really random. Apart from anything else, how did he come up on the radar of a Hungarian team anyway? They've got no other English players or ones I recognise have played over here, they don't have a manager or owners with British connections.
    They have a Swede and a Danish guy there, at least there would be ease with the language situation.
  • Dobson choosing to leave, I entirely understand.

    Dobson choosing to go to Hungary still feels really random. Apart from anything else, how did he come up on the radar of a Hungarian team anyway? They've got no other English players or ones I recognise have played over here, they don't have a manager or owners with British connections.
    Agree. The whole thing is bizarre (if true). I don’t think a single English player of any note  plays there. I don’t think either that his strengths that we most value  in him are rated
    anywhere near as important by HU fans. There’s a tradition of playing a
    much more technical game there. He won’t be adored, and won’t fit in. I wonder who he and his wife will socialise with. His agent is clearly a **** who could not get Champ interest but wants his payday no matter..
    Am I correct in believing the Hungarians can be problems for paying wages on time?
  • And are we just going on what Ned Holmes has said whoever he is?
    He's Ned Holmes.
  • Seems like such a backwards step. 

    We've spent money to sign 2 players that are a sideways move from Dobson anyway. 

    Yes Bakinson I'm sure looks great as does Coventry, we could have just signed one.

    The money on the other could've been spent on wing-backs or a striker rather than a position we were fine for with Dobson. 
    Unless Dobson just wants off, of course?
    If he were going to the Championship I'd say fair enough. But Hungary? 

    The relocation and upheaval of his family would eat into any increase in salary he'd be likely to get. So clearly isn't something he'd want to do unless he felt like we were offering way below his value. 
    Or maybe he thinks living in another country might actually benefit his family. I certainly do, it’s not that hard to believe. 
    You can understand it if he was going to France or Spain or Italy or Germany ...........but Hungary - he must be completely off his trolley. You wonder if he's actually been to have a look. Id be amazed if he's not back in the UK within a season. I think its a bonkers move, but his agent will have made a fee so he'll be happy  
    Some of you post as if an agent can make a player sign a contract. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,747
    Cawley says the Hungarian side are interested.

    FLW have gone one further and said a pre-contract has been agreed. If true, and they want him now for whatever reason, it might make sense for them to offer a small amount to us to get an extra six months out of Dobbo.

    Either way it does seem an odd agreement so I’m taking it with a pinch of salt, for now.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,842
    edited January 2024
    It's not too rare a deal I don't think, in fact CBTs deal was very similar but with a different structure (if I understand the facts properly)

    There's no real difference between CBT being "loaned" to Derby for £300k and leaving on a free to them at the end of the contract (I would assume he's also signed a pre contract?) Vs these guys having a pre contract and then offering a transfer fee before hand to get their man sooner. Both Derby and the Hungarians could just wait 6 months and get them on a free... To be clear I'm not saying we would get anywhere near £300k for Dobson!

    If anything it makes more sense to do it this way because I am guessing you could split the transfer fee over the life of the contract for accountancy purposes, vs a loan fee which I assume sits within this seasons accounts. 
  • Dobson should never had told his agent he was hungry for success.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    From my understanding, we have gone back with a fresh offer last week. But one thing for sure, he isn’t going this month 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    DubaiCAFC said:
    From my understanding, we have gone back with a fresh offer last week. But one thing for sure, he isn’t going this month 
    Good because we can't afford, right now, to lose him!

    Funny we've gone back with a new offer though, considering we were told we'd made him a very good "take it or leave it" offer.....