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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)
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Dish it out then expect to take it or be called out on it.cafcsinger said:Not an Appleton fan at all, but don't really see much wrong in the 'calling out fans for a fight' quote.
He's getting dogs abuse online and saying 'they wouldn't say it to my face' is both fair enough and true!1 -
If he starts winning then he can stay for as long as he does.Croydon said:I don't even care if he starts winning. I want him gone and I feel like a large part of the fanbase feel the same.
Problem is we've not seen anything to suggest he will.2 -
If it was I.T that’d be a different matter, you’d soon show ‘em boss…AFKABartram said:I’d love to know what a Comms professional would make on how our club is currently run. All football clubs leak info, that’s a given. But ours feels like it’s been a garden sieve since this lot come on board.Seems like there’s absolutely no meaningful Comms Strategy at all; management of key messages is all over the place and mainly maintained though non-professional outlets, and with that there’s now no certainty in terms of credibility of what is being put out. Responsibility lines are all over the place.
its not an area of work I’m particularly familiar with, but it looks a right mess imo0 -
Manic_mania said:
Alfie May's reaction after the final whistle on Saturday - maybe a little circumstantial and not evidence of the entire dressing room, but having your top scorer and talisman react that way I feel is an indicator that all isn't well.altrinchamaddick said:Gravesend_Addick said:What a strange day. I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game. Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.
Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable
What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
And Doucher, I don't think he's clueless,
Wasn't that a reaction that he didn't think his teammates were putting in the effort or tactics that the manager demanded.0 -
He frustrates the life out of me by not making subs… but this season is going nowhere anyway so I think give him time.
We will not be relegated. Hyperbole.
If we sack now which new idiot will be parachuted in at the last minute?3 -
Which reflects some of the individuals involved at the club and is why they will need to be removed before it can succeed.AFKABartram said:I’d love to know what a Comms professional would make on how our club is currently run. All football clubs leak info, that’s a given. But ours feels like it’s been a garden sieve since this lot come on board.Seems like there’s absolutely no meaningful Comms Strategy at all; management of key messages is all over the place and mainly maintained though non-professional outlets, and with that there’s now no certainty in terms of credibility of what is being put out. Responsibility lines are all over the place.
its not an area of work I’m particularly familiar with, but it looks a right mess imo5 -
That's good. Nothing to worry about then. Bring on the 5 or 6 wins to come between now and Mayesseffect said:He frustrates the life out of me by not making subs… but this season is going nowhere anyway so I think give him time.
We will not be relegated. Hyperbole.
If we sack now which new idiot will be parachuted in at the last minute?1 -
When our glorious apples wins tomorrow all you your names will go on the list
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Can't we just make him steward & bailiff of the Chiltern Hundreds?0
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He hasn’t lost the dressing room, he’s got the key in his pocket and he can’t lose it, if he doesn’t take his hands out of his pockets.Gravesend_Addick said:What a strange day. I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game. Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.
Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable2 - Sponsored links:
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Absolutely right, if you don't say something, someone outside will surely fill the void.Airman Brown said:
Which reflects some of the individuals involved at the club and is why they will need to be removed before it can succeed.AFKABartram said:I’d love to know what a Comms professional would make on how our club is currently run. All football clubs leak info, that’s a given. But ours feels like it’s been a garden sieve since this lot come on board.Seems like there’s absolutely no meaningful Comms Strategy at all; management of key messages is all over the place and mainly maintained though non-professional outlets, and with that there’s now no certainty in terms of credibility of what is being put out. Responsibility lines are all over the place.
its not an area of work I’m particularly familiar with, but it looks a right mess imo0 -
I get your point. On the other hand you have to admit "standing with hands in pockets, watching and only making changes about 10 minutes after they were actually needed.... well, it didn't work the last 9 times I tried it but definitely going to work now" is not a very productive mindset.Callumcafc said:
Don’t like this implication that he’s only in it for a payoff and he doesn’t actually care about wins and losses. It’s very unfair.SELR_addicks said:Wouldn't you have taken one look at Appleton's managerial career to know that he'd never walk away from a pay-off?
He's a professional at it.
I doubt you’ve ever had a bad performance review at work and decided later that day that actually the company is better off without you and you’re going to resign.
I do agree that some of the accusations of him trying to deliberately fail to engineer a payoff are probably hyperbolic.
Accusations that he's not very good at the job he's paid to do are not. Possibly he's actually very hurt on a personal level every time we lose and just extremely stoic. But he doesn't show any sign of knowing what to do about it.1 -
I've never had a bad performance review at workCallumcafc said:
Don’t like this implication that he’s only in it for a payoff and he doesn’t actually care about wins and losses. It’s very unfair.SELR_addicks said:Wouldn't you have taken one look at Appleton's managerial career to know that he'd never walk away from a pay-off?
He's a professional at it.
I doubt you’ve ever had a bad performance review at work and decided later that day that actually the company is better off without you and you’re going to resign.
I've also never been fired from numerous jobs
I'm also currently not failing in my profession, taking the company to its lowest ever professional standing
Appleton's record would get him sacked in probably 80+ of the 92 current league manager jobs
And I'm being nice to him not saying in 91 other clubs!
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He kind of needs to go work in a cold hearted, non-people interacting, unemotional environment. He really does not care what anybody thinks nor says is my honest opinion and in a football ‘family’ environment full of passion and commitment, that level of detachment is an absolute recipe for disaster. Offering fans out (which is effectively what he did even if that was not his intention) is absolute madness. Pre-weekend, I felt a buzz again, this man has numbed me to my core again.Having watched that, I would rather not see your true self - yes, act up, good, bad, indifferent acting, I don’t care, but for the love of God, do something that shifts the dynamic, even if temporarily.1
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Can I just point out that the poster who declared that Appleton didn't take training today, was the same poster who declared that his informants had all told him the same thing that Appleton was to sacked today< and he couldn't work out what had gone wrong. Quite simply a case of I got it wrong but I will throw this snippet in there to reinforce my narrative.4
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I'm not sure of the exact words but the great Lennie Lawrence once said about players that you can hug, kiss, have a go at them BUT if they don't ant to play for you on a Saturday afternoon then they won't.... So Michael we'll get the answer tomorrow night about your coaching and man management ability and what the players really think.
You called this Mickey boy, you've had way more time than some previous incumbents but your not entirely blameless... The Board, who invite their buddies along should've had the guts to put you and us out of our misery after that disaster at Orient. However, 6 games later and 1 point only...you're still here, you couldnt make it up.
Over to you my son... Prove everyone wrong!0 -
This…..100%.MuttleyCAFC said:I think it is ridiculous for us to say Appleton didn't/doesn't care. How do we know something like that? People have their ways and unless we are close to him and see him working we can comment on results and performances but not something like that.2 -
I don't know. Wasn't there, so maybe i'm on the wrong track but from what I recall there was suggestions he was seen saying not only "that was fucking shit" something about being "soft" and saying something along the lines of "he's gone" It's all a bit open to interpretation I guess - could be bad/incorrect lip reading or making something out of nothing I suppose .altrinchamaddick said:Manic_mania said:
Alfie May's reaction after the final whistle on Saturday - maybe a little circumstantial and not evidence of the entire dressing room, but having your top scorer and talisman react that way I feel is an indicator that all isn't well.altrinchamaddick said:Gravesend_Addick said:What a strange day. I don't see the point in giving him 1 more game. Looks like he's lost the dressing room & he never had the fans on side either.
Was a strange appointment & it's even more strange to be dragging this out & prolonging the inevitable
What evidence is there that he has lost the dressing room? I hate these throwaway comments, the sort of comments that lead to ' no smoke without fire' scenario. Why would so many players who have played with Appleton have joined us. Do I think he will go-yes, do I want him to be our long term manager-no, but making stuff up is unacceptable.
And Doucher, I don't think he's clueless,
Wasn't that a reaction that he didn't think his teammates were putting in the effort or tactics that the manager demanded.
You also have other factors in that dressing room right now though- a captain who won't sign a contract for whatever reason, looking at his options right now - your talisman striker losing the plot at the end of the game (regardless of what was said, also probably should have been sent off) your top assist maker and second highest scorer on his way out of the door - thats your leaders on the pitch - then you have players going into a new formation with not everyone seemingly understanding their assignments and making silly errors week after week - the younger players, not to mention the new boys coming in must be looking around thinking what the hell is this?
Now these factors are of course not all down to the manager, but displaying leadership and control on the sidelines absolutely is. Standing on the sidelines with hands in pockets seemingly not even reacting, no encouragement, a word in the ear of a player who needs a bit of direction - that is not displaying any leadership or control - he can say he is not a "performing seal" or whatever, but the fact is it's not just the fans that are seeing him in that light - the players are as well. But he is just going to stubbornly continue because it's "his way or no way" or whatever.
I honestly wouldn't blame any of the players at all for losing confidence in his ability to lead in that scenario.9 -
Oh the irony! 🙄RonnieMoore said:Seen a lot of posts blaming the club for the way it’s handled today … Fact is the club done nothing wrong today it’s been business as usual .. it’s social media that’s caused the problem …6 - Sponsored links:
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Did Appleton text the number on the big screen about the abuse he has now raised?3
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That doesn’t change anything about what I said… I’m glad you’re a model employeesupaclive said:
I've never had a bad performance review at workCallumcafc said:
Don’t like this implication that he’s only in it for a payoff and he doesn’t actually care about wins and losses. It’s very unfair.SELR_addicks said:Wouldn't you have taken one look at Appleton's managerial career to know that he'd never walk away from a pay-off?
He's a professional at it.
I doubt you’ve ever had a bad performance review at work and decided later that day that actually the company is better off without you and you’re going to resign.
I've also never been fired from numerous jobs
I'm also currently not failing in my profession, taking the company to its lowest ever professional standing
Appleton's record would get him sacked in probably 80+ of the 92 current league manager jobs
And I'm being nice to him not saying in 91 other clubs!0 -
That press conference was the most detached from us as club I have ever heard from a manager of us.
Nothing like we are all in this mess together type of talk, need to all come together etc
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He does not work for us anymore though.JohnnyH2 said:That press conference was the most detached from us as club I have ever heard from a manager of us.
Nothing like we are all in this mess together type of talk, need to all come together etc2 -
Maybe this was one of the messages that started the did he didn’t he take training.Addick_8 said:Asked my sparrows lane contact if MA is there today and that was at 8 am - Read it and no reply.I’m clutching at straws a little and think surely it would have been easier to say yes so based on that I’d be amazed if he is there taking training/in charge tomorrow.
sorry if it wasn’t.0 -
I thought there was plenty of the "we need to knuckle down" stuff, but at the same time well aware the buck stopped with him when the shit hits the fan...JohnnyH2 said:That press conference was the most detached from us as club I have ever heard from a manager of us.
Nothing like we are all in this mess together type of talk, need to all come together etc1 -
Hmmm, I like the way this new board works, maybe they’re looking to loan Appleton out..?2
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So just catching up… am I reading it right that Appleton has entered the quantum realm where he is both sacked and not sacked, and training and not training. I’m confused because I have just pulled up into the Makros car park and I could swear that is him pacing about with his shirt off?7
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Got to say, I am rather confused.. Not just 1 person, 2 or 3 people who I get information from, have all been saying the same thing..
Maybe a ploy to even more pressure on, I don't know.
Be interested to hear his comments.. As I understand he didn't take training today either.
Just thought I'd repost where the rumour of Appleton not taking training today came from. The poster sets himself up as the only one in the know, the truth is quite the opposite. A lot of people on here bought this pile of bilge, I have sympathy for the conned but not the conman.3 -
That's probably fair and accurate.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
If he starts winning then he can stay for as long as he does.Croydon said:I don't even care if he starts winning. I want him gone and I feel like a large part of the fanbase feel the same.
Problem is we've not seen anything to suggest he will.0
