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Michael Appleton sacked - (2013 thread resurrected for wishful thinking purposes.)

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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Its shocking when even I want the Manager gone...
    Just need Callum to rubber stamp it 
  • I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY Posts: 4,608
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    The Red Robin said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    If I was a betting man, I would say he won’t be in charge on Tuesday.. watch this space 
    Third time lucky in appointing a manager for this lot?
    The Duchatelet years all over again.
    Except everyone was moaning about not having British managers…. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Has Steve Cooper got another gig yet.? Can we afford him, would he come here, could we get him?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,030
    Do we really want another sacking?

    I have always felt bosses need two years and that sometimes it gets worse before it improves.

    Remember Chris Powell's unimpressive start in 2011? There were strong rumours he would be sacked that summer. Thankfully he wasn't and led us to an amazing promotion winning season.

    Apples has clearly been allowed to bring in players he knows this window. I believe sacking him now would just add to the instability around the club.
    Coventry and Ladapo are top signings and need to be here next season ,.let's get behind the club.

    My fear though is that he might find it difficult to get the fans back onside 

    As a supporter base we need to back someone to last more than six months.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Can we change the thread title please. Very misleading. 
  • mattinfinland
    mattinfinland Posts: 1,096
    Richard J said:
    Do we really want another sacking?

    I have always felt bosses need two years and that sometimes it gets worse before it improves.

    Remember Chris Powell's unimpressive start in 2011? There were strong rumours he would be sacked that summer. Thankfully he wasn't and led us to an amazing promotion winning season.

    Apples has clearly been allowed to bring in players he knows this window. I believe sacking him now would just add to the instability around the club.
    Coventry and Ladapo are top signings and need to be here next season ,.let's get behind the club.

    My fear though is that he might find it difficult to get the fans back onside 

    As a supporter base we need to back someone to last more than six months.
    I hear what you are saying,
    But how can the fans get behind MA? He has zero connection with the fans, He clearly has lost the dressing room, the reaction of Alfie May alone after the game was cue to that.
    The football has been utter dross, hands in his pockets, not encouraging us to get the ball forward? instead we are passing it between the back 2 for 5 mins before alfie may comes into a CDM position because of how static we are.

    You just cant defend him.
  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,790
    RedRobin said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    If I was a betting man, I would say he won’t be in charge on Tuesday.. watch this space 
    What have you heard Dubai? 
    That he ain’t won a game since Christmas rumour has it
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,877
    I think the decision has been made and we will hear tomorrow, once a settlement figure has been agreed, caretaker appointed etc.
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998
    Richard J said:
    Do we really want another sacking?

    I have always felt bosses need two years and that sometimes it gets worse before it improves.

    Remember Chris Powell's unimpressive start in 2011? There were strong rumours he would be sacked that summer. Thankfully he wasn't and led us to an amazing promotion winning season.

    Apples has clearly been allowed to bring in players he knows this window. I believe sacking him now would just add to the instability around the club.
    Coventry and Ladapo are top signings and need to be here next season ,.let's get behind the club.

    My fear though is that he might find it difficult to get the fans back onside 

    As a supporter base we need to back someone to last more than six months.
    Powell's record that season really was terrible, but the context was different. The relatively strong start to the season meant that relegation was very unlikely. Even with the dreadful end to the season, we finished 13th, which is above where we are now. We're currently only 7 points off of the relegation zone, and very much in relegation form. Additionally, the team in 21st have a game in hand on us and the team in 22nd have two. I'd hope the quality of players we've brought in means that we won't ultimately get pulled into the relegation battle, but they are all, as yet, unproven in a Charlton shirt, while one of our most effective players this season is on the way out. I normally advocate for giving managers time, and think the current culture of sacking the manager whenever the team is on a bad run is self-defeating, but it's important to recognise the seriousness of our situation.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,341
    Richard J said:
    Do we really want another sacking?

    I have always felt bosses need two years and that sometimes it gets worse before it improves.

    Remember Chris Powell's unimpressive start in 2011? There were strong rumours he would be sacked that summer. Thankfully he wasn't and led us to an amazing promotion winning season.

    Apples has clearly been allowed to bring in players he knows this window. I believe sacking him now would just add to the instability around the club.
    Coventry and Ladapo are top signings and need to be here next season ,.let's get behind the club.

    My fear though is that he might find it difficult to get the fans back onside 

    As a supporter base we need to back someone to last more than six months.
    The supporters are not the problem
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  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,273
    Go all out and get Nathan Jones!!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    A fan on another forum who is close to Charlie Methven is saying that Appleton is gone, possibly as soon as tonight.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    A fan on another forum who is close to Charlie Methven is saying that Appleton is gone, possibly as soon as tonight.
     Saw on twitter that it was already done. Tweet seems to have been deleted 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Richard J said:
    Do we really want another sacking?

    I have always felt bosses need two years and that sometimes it gets worse before it improves.

    Remember Chris Powell's unimpressive start in 2011? There were strong rumours he would be sacked that summer. Thankfully he wasn't and led us to an amazing promotion winning season.

    Apples has clearly been allowed to bring in players he knows this window. I believe sacking him now would just add to the instability around the club.
    Coventry and Ladapo are top signings and need to be here next season ,.let's get behind the club.

    My fear though is that he might find it difficult to get the fans back onside 

    As a supporter base we need to back someone to last more than six months.
    Surely the manager has to show some positive managerial capability though? What has Appleton shown us so far? I am genuinely struggling to see what he’s bringing us apart from ever closer to relegation. 
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    Not ITK, but I'm pretty sure he'll be gone before Tuesday
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I think the decision has been made and we will hear tomorrow, once a settlement figure has been agreed, caretaker appointed etc.
    Based on anything or a guess?
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,213
    seth plum said:
    Has Steve Cooper got another gig yet.? Can we afford him, would he come here, could we get him?
    No to each of those questions. 
  • WhenIwasLittleBoy
    WhenIwasLittleBoy Posts: 5,430
    Tactically inept, players don’t want to play him, haven’t won a game in 12 last was the end of November against Cheltenham. With the squad we have we should be chasing not in a relegation battle. 
    Action has to be taken ASAP. 
    Last couple of years we have had good followings, look at our away support today. 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,030
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Richard J said:
    Do we really want another sacking?

    I have always felt bosses need two years and that sometimes it gets worse before it improves.

    Remember Chris Powell's unimpressive start in 2011? There were strong rumours he would be sacked that summer. Thankfully he wasn't and led us to an amazing promotion winning season.

    Apples has clearly been allowed to bring in players he knows this window. I believe sacking him now would just add to the instability around the club.
    Coventry and Ladapo are top signings and need to be here next season ,.let's get behind the club.

    My fear though is that he might find it difficult to get the fans back onside 

    As a supporter base we need to back someone to last more than six months.
    The supporters are not the problem
    I agree we are not.

    What I am trying to say is we can't keep changing manager and expecting sustained improvements in performance. I have a horrible feeling that many have already made their minds up about Apples.

    If Appleton does get sacked tonight ( as some seem to be predicting) then the next incumbent needs to be given at least two years to build something. 

    I was hoping given that two of the new players have previously played for him that this squad is now beginning to be his and next season is when he should be judged.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    paulie8290 said:
    RedRobin said:
    I’d like Rowett or Duff. Not sure either would come mind. 
    My mate has mentioned Rowett a few times and it wouldn't work

    A run of 3/4 bad games and he would have the fanbase against him because of his Millwall connections 
    That would be dumb. He played for us first. We could and should have hired him before Millwall did.

    He did a good job at Millwall. They’ve done absolutely nothing since he left.
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    cafc_se7 said:
    Go all out and get Nathan Jones!!
    Good coach but I’m not sure if he’s not just another Appleton, albeit one that’s actually achieved something. Prickly character and could go wrong very quickly with him.

    I also think Nathan Jones and Rowett should be able to attract Championship jobs. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,877
    Scoham said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    I think the decision has been made and we will hear tomorrow, once a settlement figure has been agreed, caretaker appointed etc.
    Based on anything or a guess?
    Pure guess. Rumours of a board meeting tomorrow, I doubt (hope) they won't be discussing yes or no but pay off figures and new managerial targets
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    I was one of the few that still backed him. Not anymore. He won’t turn this around, the board should act now and not prolong the inevitable. 

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,554
    Richard J said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    Richard J said:
    Do we really want another sacking?

    I have always felt bosses need two years and that sometimes it gets worse before it improves.

    Remember Chris Powell's unimpressive start in 2011? There were strong rumours he would be sacked that summer. Thankfully he wasn't and led us to an amazing promotion winning season.

    Apples has clearly been allowed to bring in players he knows this window. I believe sacking him now would just add to the instability around the club.
    Coventry and Ladapo are top signings and need to be here next season ,.let's get behind the club.

    My fear though is that he might find it difficult to get the fans back onside 

    As a supporter base we need to back someone to last more than six months.
    The supporters are not the problem
    I agree we are not.

    What I am trying to say is we can't keep changing manager and expecting sustained improvements in performance. I have a horrible feeling that many have already made their minds up about Apples.

    If Appleton does get sacked tonight ( as some seem to be predicting) then the next incumbent needs to be given at least two years to build something. 

    I was hoping given that two of the new players have previously played for him that this squad is now beginning to be his and next season is when he should be judged.
    In this window we are already building for next season and by the end of the window the squad will be a lot different, and a lot better balanced and a lot stronger, than at the beginning of it. Get a new manager in, have a good end to the season, a few tweaks in the summer window and there is no reason next season can’t be a successful one. Keep Appleton, he’ll be gone by November with another season wasted. He needs to go now so that we stay up this season and give ourselves the best chance of success next season.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,028
    I can't see Nathan Jones or John Eustace being interested to be honest. They'll back themselves to get championship jobs 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    Jason Euell not doing anything at moment it’s the Charlton way. The only way we ever get decent managers are when they know the club from previous 

    I thought he was somewhere, Bristol City? Has he left already, must have missed that.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,554
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    Jason Euell not doing anything at moment it’s the Charlton way. The only way we ever get decent managers are when they know the club from previous 

    I thought he was somewhere, Bristol City? Has he left already, must have missed that.
    He went when Nigel Pearson went.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    The Red Robin said:
    paulie8290 said:
    RedRobin said:
    I’d like Rowett or Duff. Not sure either would come mind. 
    My mate has mentioned Rowett a few times and it wouldn't work

    A run of 3/4 bad games and he would have the fanbase against him because of his Millwall connections 
    That would be dumb. He played for us first. We could and should have hired him before Millwall did.

    He did a good job at Millwall. They’ve done absolutely nothing since he left.
    This.

    Chris Powell played for Palace.


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    Wouldn’t Euell have worked with Curtis Fleming at Bristol city 

    That was Pearson.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    The Red Robin said:
    paulie8290 said:
    RedRobin said:
    I’d like Rowett or Duff. Not sure either would come mind. 
    My mate has mentioned Rowett a few times and it wouldn't work

    A run of 3/4 bad games and he would have the fanbase against him because of his Millwall connections 
    That would be dumb. He played for us first. We could and should have hired him before Millwall did.

    He did a good job at Millwall. They’ve done absolutely nothing since he left.
    Rowett played 13 games for us
    Managed millwall for 196

    Loses 3/4 in a row and which one do you think the fans are likely to remember 

    All I'm saying is keeping fans onside is a big thing and Peeters Millwall connection went against him as soon as results did and I could see the same happening to Rowett

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