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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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If we have to play a winger up front whilst we’re short, I would rather DJ than Kirk.Garrymanilow said:
I'd expect of those CBT and Campbell to spend a lot time at WB, though I think Holden will also want to play 343 when he can and get Campbell forward. Kirk will play up front if no-one will take him. I don't expect to see much of DJChunes said:
So are we planning to let DJ, CBT, Kirk and Campbell all go? If so, there is a lot of business left to be done. Can't imagine we're planning to have a squad stuffed with enough players for two systems.thenewbie said:
We are not, as per RC:Chunes said:I seriously hope we're not planning on playing our wingers at wingback this season
No more CBs to come in, but still actively looking for FBs (both sides). Probably at least one Sessegnon type who can play either side in a pinch (personal speculation not a rumour.)Callumcafc said:ShootersHillGuru said:
What !!!!!!!! A left wing back is essential isn’t it ?Callumcafc said:
Someone asked the question and he responded three mins ago.0 -
I have a horrible feeling we'll end up with wingers playing at left wingback or up front, where we're lightChunes said:
So are we planning to let DJ, CBT, Kirk and Campbell all go? If so, there is a lot of business left to be done. Can't imagine we're planning to have a squad stuffed with enough players for two systems.thenewbie said:
We are not, as per RC:Chunes said:I seriously hope we're not planning on playing our wingers at wingback this season
No more CBs to come in, but still actively looking for FBs (both sides). Probably at least one Sessegnon type who can play either side in a pinch (personal speculation not a rumour.)Callumcafc said:ShootersHillGuru said:
What !!!!!!!! A left wing back is essential isn’t it ?Callumcafc said:
Someone asked the question and he responded three mins ago.0 -
Sess and Edun arriving would give us good depth and balance for both a back 4 or 5. Not sure how realistic it would be to bring in both, though.8
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But there is no end product?cfgs said:If CBT is fit and raring to go then he needs to be involved. His pace and directness scares teams.0 -
Other than goals.RonnieMoore said:
But there is no end product?cfgs said:If CBT is fit and raring to go then he needs to be involved. His pace and directness scares teams.9 -
CBT is a great impact player. Bring him on to change a game plan and make an impact when needed.
He can’t start as a wing-back.3 -
How I see it:
We should bring in Sessegnon, Edun, a right winger, another central midfielder and 2 strikers to come in, Kirk/DJ out, Kanu and Elewere to get league 2 loans til Jan.
Isted, AMB
Egbo, Sessegnon (Asiimwe)
Ness, Hector, Lloyd, Thomas, Mitchell (Elewere)
Edun, Chin (Roddy)
Dobson, Fraser, McGrandles, Henry, New (Anderson)
New, Campbell, CBT, Payne, Kirk/DJ
May, Leaburn, New, New (Kanu)
Bracketed players are youth to be used in the future/in emergencies. That's 24 players, with multiple players being able to cover different positions, like Thomas at left back, CBT at wing back, Payne playing in the middle or wide, Sess on either wing, Mitchell stepping into midfield etc. Etc.
I think that's achievable, and reasonable, it's not a squad that will Piss The League™ but it should be a solid grounding, as long as the new players in question are of a quality that improves us
I'd expect 4 of those players to be loans5 -
who is Edun?0
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What about his assist literally yesterday? Beat his man for pace, dinked over a lovely cross for the other wingback to head homeRonnieMoore said:
But there is no end product?cfgs said:If CBT is fit and raring to go then he needs to be involved. His pace and directness scares teams.2 - Sponsored links:
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LB from Blackburn (maybe pop down and have a word?) we were in for him in January before Rovers nixed the deal as they had another injury in that arealancashire lad said:who is Edun?3 -
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I’d say it’s realistic given we don’t have any left backs and we know we were trying to sign Dabo.Addickhead86 said:Sess and Edun arriving would give us good depth and balance for both a back 4 or 5. Not sure how realistic it would be to bring in both, though.
Cawley confirmed we’re in the market for full backs on both sides.
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Diablo back on according to Nikon?6
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No he’s just very slow with it. Cawley already re iterated this morning it’s not happening.sillav nitram said:Diablo back on according to Nikon?1 -
We were playing Dartford and you picked out the only cross he put over, rest of the time he failed to beat the defender, lost the ball that led to their goal.. and failed to create another chance.... expect a lot lot more from him if we are going to be successfulsam3110 said:
What about his assist literally yesterday? Beat his man for pace, dinked over a lovely cross for the other wingback to head homeRonnieMoore said:
But there is no end product?cfgs said:If CBT is fit and raring to go then he needs to be involved. His pace and directness scares teams.1 -
This.cfgs said:If CBT is fit and raring to go then he needs to be involved. His pace and directness scares teams.
If you think you're going to get better you need your lumps felt.
We cant keep churning players year after year. We need a load of players just to replace the ones that left. To start replacing ones that are half decent is folly.18 -
In the league last season CBT scored 8, for 5 assists in 19 starts and 10 sub appearances.
JRS was clearly the better player but the above is good enough to be part of our squad.
At the very least having his pace to come off the bench will be useful in changing or killing off games.4 -
Absolutely bang on here Golfie the isn’t a chance in hell we will sign a better winger than CBT. Yes he is frustrating at times but his pace terrifies opponents and any winger with that pace we are likely to sign will be frustrating if they wasn’t we wouldn’t be signing them would wegolfaddick said:
This.cfgs said:If CBT is fit and raring to go then he needs to be involved. His pace and directness scares teams.
If you think you're going to get better you need your lumps felt.
We cant keep churning players year after year. We need a load of players just to replace the ones that left. To start replacing ones that are half decent is folly.5 -
Not a million miles off but I think it’s looking like we’re going to play 352 so no need at all to have a new winger on top of Campbell, CBT, Payne and one of Kirk or DJ. Prefer another CB and CM as that midfield doesn't look particularly strong.sam3110 said:How I see it:
We should bring in Sessegnon, Edun, a right winger, another central midfielder and 2 strikers to come in, Kirk/DJ out, Kanu and Elewere to get league 2 loans til Jan.
Isted, AMB
Egbo, Sessegnon (Asiimwe)
Ness, Hector, Lloyd, Thomas, Mitchell (Elewere)
Edun, Chin (Roddy)
Dobson, Fraser, McGrandles, Henry, New (Anderson)
New, Campbell, CBT, Payne, Kirk/DJ
May, Leaburn, New, New (Kanu)
Bracketed players are youth to be used in the future/in emergencies. That's 24 players, with multiple players being able to cover different positions, like Thomas at left back, CBT at wing back, Payne playing in the middle or wide, Sess on either wing, Mitchell stepping into midfield etc. Etc.
I think that's achievable, and reasonable, it's not a squad that will Piss The League™ but it should be a solid grounding, as long as the new players in question are of a quality that improves us
I'd expect 4 of those players to be loans
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i agree on CBT - when on his game - and there was a lengthy spell earlier last season when he absolutely was - he was terrifying the oppo right backs and they were double or even trebling up on him - that's a hell of a weapon to have and whilst he often lacks end product there's enough there to be a real asset to our squad - kirk, dj and payne can hopefully be shown the door but Campbell is worth a squad place. Another striker, a powerhouse box to box midfielder and a jinky ball playing winger ( as opposed to campbell and cbt the pace merchants) then become the priorities for me, along i guess with a left sided wing / full back type player that we seem to forever be short of.4
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Or maybe he has got better.Redrobo said:
If it is Dabo that failed his medical, may it be that he has accepted a reduced contract or changed terms?MarcusH26 said:Predictably the Nixon story is already out of date
Charlton in right back talksBy Alan NixonCharlton are close to snapping up right back Fankaty Dabo ahead of League One rivals.Dabo is free after leaving Coventry and the Addicks are nearly there with a contract offer to him4 -
Yeah seeing that midfield written down it is majorly lacking. Not sure Henry is ready to play a massive part in the league.cafcfan1990 said:
Not a million miles off but I think it’s looking like we’re going to play 352 so no need at all to have a new winger on top of Campbell, CBT, Payne and one of Kirk or DJ. Prefer another CB and CM as that midfield doesn't look particularly strong.sam3110 said:How I see it:
We should bring in Sessegnon, Edun, a right winger, another central midfielder and 2 strikers to come in, Kirk/DJ out, Kanu and Elewere to get league 2 loans til Jan.
Isted, AMB
Egbo, Sessegnon (Asiimwe)
Ness, Hector, Lloyd, Thomas, Mitchell (Elewere)
Edun, Chin (Roddy)
Dobson, Fraser, McGrandles, Henry, New (Anderson)
New, Campbell, CBT, Payne, Kirk/DJ
May, Leaburn, New, New (Kanu)
Bracketed players are youth to be used in the future/in emergencies. That's 24 players, with multiple players being able to cover different positions, like Thomas at left back, CBT at wing back, Payne playing in the middle or wide, Sess on either wing, Mitchell stepping into midfield etc. Etc.
I think that's achievable, and reasonable, it's not a squad that will Piss The League™ but it should be a solid grounding, as long as the new players in question are of a quality that improves us
I'd expect 4 of those players to be loans
Roddy should also be nowhere near the first team under any circumstances.3 -
Can't see us getting a new winger when we have a few already and look to be shaping up in a 3-5-2.sam3110 said:How I see it:
We should bring in Sessegnon, Edun, a right winger, another central midfielder and 2 strikers to come in, Kirk/DJ out, Kanu and Elewere to get league 2 loans til Jan.
Isted, AMB
Egbo, Sessegnon (Asiimwe)
Ness, Hector, Lloyd, Thomas, Mitchell (Elewere)
Edun, Chin (Roddy)
Dobson, Fraser, McGrandles, Henry, New (Anderson)
New, Campbell, CBT, Payne, Kirk/DJ
May, Leaburn, New, New (Kanu)
Bracketed players are youth to be used in the future/in emergencies. That's 24 players, with multiple players being able to cover different positions, like Thomas at left back, CBT at wing back, Payne playing in the middle or wide, Sess on either wing, Mitchell stepping into midfield etc. Etc.
I think that's achievable, and reasonable, it's not a squad that will Piss The League™ but it should be a solid grounding, as long as the new players in question are of a quality that improves us
I'd expect 4 of those players to be loans
I'm happy with Kanu as one of the strikers, in a front 2 I think he could be ready but he needs to have the right partner, that new striker needs to be a big/strong type to cover when Leaburn is injured.
Chin hopefully won't be involved and will go out on loan. I'd rather have Blackett-Taylor at wing back or Egbo playing the wrong side and Asiimwe on the right. Obviously if we got Sessegnon he'd be the second choice option but Chin shouldn't be anywhere near getting league minutes if we want to go up.
I'd quite like 2 new central midfielders and allow Henry to go out on loan. We obviously need a Box to Box midfielder to slot into our starting 3 (Camara at Ipswich please!) and then the second should either be another similar type or someone to cover Dobson, depending on which of those roles Holden thinks McGrandles can cover best
If we bring in good additions at Wing Back x2 (at least one needs to be LWB), Central Midfield x2 and then a Striker then I think we will have a real chance of being up there. The LWB and Box to Box midfield signings probably being the most important as they are the biggest holes in our 11 at the moment. Being only 5 good signings away is a good place to be in at the moment0 -
we don't have a single fit hold up / target man type striker in the squad and are likely to only have 1 once Leaburn is - and hopefully stays fit - i think that is the biggest priority position - getting strong de ja vu from last season here - you can get away with a lot of pieces of the jigsaw missing but if you have naff all up top, you're pissing in the wind.NabySarr said:
Can't see us getting a new winger when we have a few already and look to be shaping up in a 3-5-2.sam3110 said:How I see it:
We should bring in Sessegnon, Edun, a right winger, another central midfielder and 2 strikers to come in, Kirk/DJ out, Kanu and Elewere to get league 2 loans til Jan.
Isted, AMB
Egbo, Sessegnon (Asiimwe)
Ness, Hector, Lloyd, Thomas, Mitchell (Elewere)
Edun, Chin (Roddy)
Dobson, Fraser, McGrandles, Henry, New (Anderson)
New, Campbell, CBT, Payne, Kirk/DJ
May, Leaburn, New, New (Kanu)
Bracketed players are youth to be used in the future/in emergencies. That's 24 players, with multiple players being able to cover different positions, like Thomas at left back, CBT at wing back, Payne playing in the middle or wide, Sess on either wing, Mitchell stepping into midfield etc. Etc.
I think that's achievable, and reasonable, it's not a squad that will Piss The League™ but it should be a solid grounding, as long as the new players in question are of a quality that improves us
I'd expect 4 of those players to be loans
I'm happy with Kanu as one of the strikers, in a front 2 I think he could be ready but he needs to have the right partner, that new striker needs to be a big/strong type to cover when Leaburn is injured.
Chin hopefully won't be involved and will go out on loan. I'd rather have Blackett-Taylor at wing back or Egbo playing the wrong side and Asiimwe on the right. Obviously if we got Sessegnon he'd be the second choice option but Chin shouldn't be anywhere near getting league minutes if we want to go up.
I'd quite like 2 new central midfielders and allow Henry to go out on loan. We obviously need a Box to Box midfielder to slot into our starting 3 (Camara at Ipswich please!) and then the second should either be another similar type or someone to cover Dobson, depending on which of those roles Holden thinks McGrandles can cover best
If we bring in good additions at Wing Back x2 (at least one needs to be LWB), Central Midfield x2 and then a Striker then I think we will have a real chance of being up there. The LWB and Box to Box midfield signings probably being the most important as they are the biggest holes in our 11 at the moment. Being only 5 good signings away is a good place to be in at the moment11 -
Looking at that squad written out there's still quite a bit needed both in and out
Would love us to go and spend a fee on a quality box to box CM that can really dictate a game , happy to have Mcgrandles as cover for now and maybe one other CDM that can then let Henry and Anderson go out on loan.
352 suggests there's not really any natural place for the wingers we've got on the books - DJ I fully expect to go , CBT as a bench option to change things up with out and out pace along with Campbell is a good option to have. Kirk I really don't know about.
Fullbacks I'd like to see enough depth come in that Richard Chin and Asiimwe can go and get minutes on loan somewhere and develop some more.
2 more strikers feels like what's going to be needed with Aneke out a lot and Miles missing for at least the first month and will need time after that to get up to speed.
Would expect the 5 loan slots to be filled out throughout the side , just hope we can find another JRS level talent.1 -
I don’t want to see CBT wing back either, but the idea we get rid of him because he might not fit the perceived formation is madness, you need more than one formation up your sleeve. And CBT, in my view anyway, has been one of our best players the last few season and we’d see rivals biting our hands off for him. Portsmouth would probably hand you Fratton park for him after the damage he’s done down there!12
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Keep up Sam Lancs is back down South these days 😉.sam3110 said:
LB from Blackburn (maybe pop down and have a word?) we were in for him in January before Rovers nixed the deal as they had another injury in that arealancashire lad said:who is Edun?0 -
I do agree but we also don’t have any left wing back or box to box midfielder options so I’d still have them as first priorities. At least we have Leaburn as that type of striker. Will be interesting to see whether we try and get that striker now or risk starting the season without to try and get LadapoDOUCHER said:
we don't have a single fit hold up / target man type striker in the squad and are likely to only have 1 once Leaburn is - and hopefully stays fit - i think that is the biggest priority position - getting strong de ja vu from last season here - you can get away with a lot of pieces of the jigsaw missing but if you have naff all up top, you're pissing in the wind.NabySarr said:
Can't see us getting a new winger when we have a few already and look to be shaping up in a 3-5-2.sam3110 said:How I see it:
We should bring in Sessegnon, Edun, a right winger, another central midfielder and 2 strikers to come in, Kirk/DJ out, Kanu and Elewere to get league 2 loans til Jan.
Isted, AMB
Egbo, Sessegnon (Asiimwe)
Ness, Hector, Lloyd, Thomas, Mitchell (Elewere)
Edun, Chin (Roddy)
Dobson, Fraser, McGrandles, Henry, New (Anderson)
New, Campbell, CBT, Payne, Kirk/DJ
May, Leaburn, New, New (Kanu)
Bracketed players are youth to be used in the future/in emergencies. That's 24 players, with multiple players being able to cover different positions, like Thomas at left back, CBT at wing back, Payne playing in the middle or wide, Sess on either wing, Mitchell stepping into midfield etc. Etc.
I think that's achievable, and reasonable, it's not a squad that will Piss The League™ but it should be a solid grounding, as long as the new players in question are of a quality that improves us
I'd expect 4 of those players to be loans
I'm happy with Kanu as one of the strikers, in a front 2 I think he could be ready but he needs to have the right partner, that new striker needs to be a big/strong type to cover when Leaburn is injured.
Chin hopefully won't be involved and will go out on loan. I'd rather have Blackett-Taylor at wing back or Egbo playing the wrong side and Asiimwe on the right. Obviously if we got Sessegnon he'd be the second choice option but Chin shouldn't be anywhere near getting league minutes if we want to go up.
I'd quite like 2 new central midfielders and allow Henry to go out on loan. We obviously need a Box to Box midfielder to slot into our starting 3 (Camara at Ipswich please!) and then the second should either be another similar type or someone to cover Dobson, depending on which of those roles Holden thinks McGrandles can cover best
If we bring in good additions at Wing Back x2 (at least one needs to be LWB), Central Midfield x2 and then a Striker then I think we will have a real chance of being up there. The LWB and Box to Box midfield signings probably being the most important as they are the biggest holes in our 11 at the moment. Being only 5 good signings away is a good place to be in at the moment0 -
Agreed. If you're playing 352 then you need at least 3 "first choice" strikers to choose from. Leaburn and May are 2, but then we have Aneke who can't be relied on and youngsters who are too raw to throw in from the start.DOUCHER said:
we don't have a single fit hold up / target man type striker in the squad and are likely to only have 1 once Leaburn is - and hopefully stays fit - i think that is the biggest priority position - getting strong de ja vu from last season here - you can get away with a lot of pieces of the jigsaw missing but if you have naff all up top, you're pissing in the wind.NabySarr said:
Can't see us getting a new winger when we have a few already and look to be shaping up in a 3-5-2.sam3110 said:How I see it:
We should bring in Sessegnon, Edun, a right winger, another central midfielder and 2 strikers to come in, Kirk/DJ out, Kanu and Elewere to get league 2 loans til Jan.
Isted, AMB
Egbo, Sessegnon (Asiimwe)
Ness, Hector, Lloyd, Thomas, Mitchell (Elewere)
Edun, Chin (Roddy)
Dobson, Fraser, McGrandles, Henry, New (Anderson)
New, Campbell, CBT, Payne, Kirk/DJ
May, Leaburn, New, New (Kanu)
Bracketed players are youth to be used in the future/in emergencies. That's 24 players, with multiple players being able to cover different positions, like Thomas at left back, CBT at wing back, Payne playing in the middle or wide, Sess on either wing, Mitchell stepping into midfield etc. Etc.
I think that's achievable, and reasonable, it's not a squad that will Piss The League™ but it should be a solid grounding, as long as the new players in question are of a quality that improves us
I'd expect 4 of those players to be loans
I'm happy with Kanu as one of the strikers, in a front 2 I think he could be ready but he needs to have the right partner, that new striker needs to be a big/strong type to cover when Leaburn is injured.
Chin hopefully won't be involved and will go out on loan. I'd rather have Blackett-Taylor at wing back or Egbo playing the wrong side and Asiimwe on the right. Obviously if we got Sessegnon he'd be the second choice option but Chin shouldn't be anywhere near getting league minutes if we want to go up.
I'd quite like 2 new central midfielders and allow Henry to go out on loan. We obviously need a Box to Box midfielder to slot into our starting 3 (Camara at Ipswich please!) and then the second should either be another similar type or someone to cover Dobson, depending on which of those roles Holden thinks McGrandles can cover best
If we bring in good additions at Wing Back x2 (at least one needs to be LWB), Central Midfield x2 and then a Striker then I think we will have a real chance of being up there. The LWB and Box to Box midfield signings probably being the most important as they are the biggest holes in our 11 at the moment. Being only 5 good signings away is a good place to be in at the moment
I agree with us needing a target man, as Leaburn is the only one we have, and indeed that's not really his main strength at the moment. Leaburn can easily play off a target man, as he's pacey and skilful.1
