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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,873
    Callumcafc said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    And this is where we regret all those singles we turned down.

    45-50 a lot easier for the tail to get than 70.
    Stokes wouldn’t have hit as many boundaries with less balls faced and despite thinking the singles would take it below 50, it takes six singles to make up just one of his blows. 

    I think it’s a swings and roundabouts situation.
    I agree, also increases the risk of stokes running out of partners. 

    Englands middle order lost this in the first innings. 

    I think Baz ball needs to drop a gear but with the Aussies ageing, I'm looking forward to the next tour, I think we will be at out most competitive in a long time (I'm deliberately glossing over that we have an aged bowling attack)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,738
    edited July 2023
    *Tongue takes one to the head…*

    ”Coming in at no. 10 as concussion sub please welcome Dan Lawrence”
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    Wonder what advice Robinson was given before he walked out. 
    It should have been ‘don’t be yourself’ which is often good advice for Robinson.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,738
    Broad gone now unfortunately 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,735
    The death knell tolls.....
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,340
    You think they would have been inspired By Stokes but this has been pathetic
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,738
    Chunes said:
    You think they would have been inspired By Stokes but this has been pathetic
    What’s the alternative for tailenders? They can’t just stand there and take blows.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,929
    Callumcafc said:
    *Tongue takes one to the head…*

    ”Coming in at no. 10 as concussion sub please welcome Sten Bokes”

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,822
    Callumcafc said:
    *Tongue takes one to the head…*

    ”Coming in at no. 10 as concussion sub please welcome Dan Lawrence Alastair Cook”
    Get him out of the TMS commentary box
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,929
    Now's the time for Josh Tongue to reveal he's basically the new Jacques Kallis.
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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,464
    edited July 2023
    Atherton is beginning to sound like Brownie, giving clues how to get Jimmy out, sounds disappointed we are still out there...sure he's not an Aussie!!
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,929
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Atherton is beginning to sound like Brownie, giving clues how to get Jimmy out,...sure he's not an Aussie!!
    Or a naturalised South African....
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 2023
    Covered End said:
    Magnificent by Stokes, but it was always likely that he'd be out too early for our liking. 

    Stokes is the ultimate X factor cricketer.
    For England to have won this after the Bairstow 'stumping' Captain Stokes would've had to score 200 ! Considering that before this Innings, Stokes averaged 35 that would've been a miracle, especially as he  struggles to run. (Yes, he could've done it in 6's)

    Amazing knock and big credit to Ben but I hope England are honest when they assess the last two tests.
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334
    Andyessgee90 said:
    I’d like to see a replay of what the umpire was doing immediately after the ball went through to Carey. It looked as though Bairstow looked up at him and the umpire moved towards bowler taking the bowlers hat/glasses off. If that was the case should the umpire have intervened before it went to tv umpire? 
    https://www.ecb.co.uk/video/3564541/jonny-bairstow-wicket

    you can see at 17s and 33s that both umpires had heads down not looking by the time the ball hits the wicket. they both thought the ball was dead
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,167
    I’ll freely admit I’m only a casual cricket watcher, and only pay proper attention when there is an Ashes series or World Cup, but in the 25 years or so I’ve been following things there’s always been one big difference between England and Australia. Well, two if you count that they seem to produce more absolutely world class players, but the main one is they just sense when their moment of opportunity is in a game and take advantage of it far more consistently than England. England seem to need to be in a mess to focus minds a bit and battle out of adversity whereas the Aussies will pounce when they’re on top and hammer home the advantage. So often England battle back to just about get on top and then take their foot off the gas and let the Aussies back in. I think it’s a national psyche problem for us as much as it is a cricketing one. 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,248
    We need a fast bowler, and we don't have a fit one. Most of the problem comes down to that.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,822
    If the rest of the series is going to be like this game, I'm opening up a factory making cricket helmets.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,156
    Exiled_Addick said:
    I’ll freely admit I’m only a casual cricket watcher, and only pay proper attention when there is an Ashes series or World Cup, but in the 25 years or so I’ve been following things there’s always been one big difference between England and Australia. Well, two if you count that they seem to produce more absolutely world class players, but the main one is they just sense when their moment of opportunity is in a game and take advantage of it far more consistently than England. England seem to need to be in a mess to focus minds a bit and battle out of adversity whereas the Aussies will pounce when they’re on top and hammer home the advantage. So often England battle back to just about get on top and then take their foot off the gas and let the Aussies back in. I think it’s a national psyche problem for us as much as it is a cricketing one. 
    Lack of winners mentality (should have Holden as manager), apart from Stokes and Duckett, the rest have a brittle backbone.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,464
    edited July 2023
    Only another 55 to win...still on..make that 49..😉
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,929
    Under 50 now...
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,929
    Win predictor is at 3.3% for us.

    Doesn't feel like England win this even 1 time in 30!
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,873
    Is now a good time to start the stokes v green debate again 😬
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,464
    Why don't Atherton just shut up!!
  • Mike
    Mike Posts: 6,166
    If only Robinson had played a bit like these 2...
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,956
    Bah.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,464
    edited July 2023
    Oh well at least Atherton is happy,... he is a git!!!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,738
    Australia win by 43 runs.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,167
    Mike said:
    If only Robinson had played a bit like these 2...
    If only some of our batsmen had played a bit like these. Only two making over 20 in an innings is not good enough whatever the conditions or the opponents. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,979
    The most frustrating thing is that we're 2-0 down when we could've arguably won both tests.

    Silly declaration in the first test.
    Gave away stupid wickets in this one.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,167
    Did well to make as much of a fight of it as they did, although it was really only a few of them who seemed up for the fight. 

    Damage was really done in the First Innings with those cheap wickets needlessly chasing the short stuff when England were on top. 

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