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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,180
    edited July 2023
    kentaddick said:
    Was out yesterday afternoon so missed the drama - day one of learning how to play cricket youre taught not to ground the ball like that when you’ve taken a catch. Sheer idiocy from starc. No sympathy, would be furious with our own player if they did that. 
    This is what I said. I was always taught (the very low level I have played) to turn your hand over when taking a tumbling catch. Use the back of your hand and wrist/forearm to steady yourself. Its still second nature now.

    Starc only has himself to blame. I think they should drop him for the mistake! ;)
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,180
    Today will either be something special and memorable if we get even close or farcical and we'll be done within an hour.
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    edited July 2023
    I was in the ground listening to tms and it was mentioned, so not just pieterson who mentioned the fact that ‘if’ he got hit, he could say he has concussion, get a sub and field a full strength side. 
    It’s clearly been misconstrued along the line but I thought it was more about the Aussies doing ‘anything in their power to win’ including cheating / bending rules to suit them. 
    I don’t think anyone thought or suggested he would put his head in the way to get hit on purpose. 

  • Mike
    Mike Posts: 6,172
    It will be over by midday
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,040
    edited July 2023
    suzisausage said:
    I was in the ground listening to tms and it was mentioned, so not just pieterson who mentioned the fact that ‘if’ he got hit, he could say he has concussion, get a sub and field a full strength side. 
    It’s clearly been misconstrued along the line but I thought it was more about the Aussies doing ‘anything in their power to win’ including cheating / bending rules to suit them. 
    I don’t think anyone thought or suggested he would put his head in the way to get hit on purpose. 

    By Glenn McGrath - I note the Aussies didn't mention that!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    North Lower Neil said:
    suzisausage said:
    I was in ground listening to tms and it was mentioned, so not just pieterson who mentioned the fact that ‘if’ he got hit, he could say he has concussion, get a sub and field a full strength side. 
    It’s clearly been misconstrued along the line but I thought it was more about the Aussies doing ‘anything in their power to win’ including cheating / bending rules to suit them. 
    I don’t think anyone thought or suggested he would put his head in the way to get hit on purpose. 

    By Glenn McGrath - I note the Aussies didn't mention that!
    I then repeated it here after reading his comment!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    suzisausage said:
    I was in ground listening to tms and it was mentioned, so not just pieterson who mentioned the fact that ‘if’ he got hit, he could say he has concussion, get a sub and field a full strength side. 
    It’s clearly been misconstrued along the line but I thought it was more about the Aussies doing ‘anything in their power to win’ including cheating / bending rules to suit them. 
    I don’t think anyone thought or suggested he would put his head in the way to get hit on purpose. 

    But the assumption is that, because it's the cheating Aussies, should he have been hit on the head then they would straightaway shout "concussion". Why, if the England players believed that would happen, was every ball to Lyon, short and targetted at the body? Why give the Aussies that excuse when they had as much chance getting him out pitching the ball up given his lack of mobility? If English commentators are throwing that out there as such a positive by product of that happening, why didn't the players act accordingly? It must have entered their heads surely and potentially cost them far more than an extra few runs?   
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,248
    I see they got Maxwell in early on TMS, desperate to bring a wicket obviously. Nearly worked, second ball. Plenty happening now he's on. Stokes won't survive 15 minutes of Maxwell.
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Mike said:
    It will be over by midday
    Due to bazball? 
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Ponting clarifying the comments regarding being hit on the head to get a sub. 

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    That's why you don't burn your reviews
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    This isn't Bazball. This is proper Test batting. A joy to see. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,834
    Well it is Bazball, done properly unlike Friday. Still going at nearly 4 an over. Ideally want to chase it in the next 40 overs though 
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,381
    It's the hope that kills you 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    Duckett is even leaving the ball.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,394
    Can anyone explain why Hawkeye (or whatever the brand name is nowadays) can't be used as an aid to umpires when judging the height of short-pitched "wides"? 

    If the technology can pinpoint the precise location of a delivery at any point in its trajectory, it can't be difficult for the technology to determine whether the ball was higher than the top of a batsman's head as it reaches the batting crease. 

    It's very difficult for a square leg umpire properly to be able to determine the height, amongst flailing bats, helmets, gloves and so forth.  But perfectly simple for ball-tracking technology. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    killerandflash said:
    Duckett is even leaving the ball.

    And neither he nor Stokes is trying to pull and hook virtually every ball that is at their head and above. Unlike us on Friday. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,934
    Don’t worry all, I just started watching so doubt the collapse will begin momentarily.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,934
    Addick Addict said:
    killerandflash said:
    Duckett is even leaving the ball.

    And neither he nor Stokes is trying to pull and hook virtually every ball that is at their head and above. Unlike us on Friday. 
    Thoughts on the Aussies inability to play the short ball yesterday?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,934
    Callumcafc said:
    Don’t worry all, I just started watching so doubt the collapse will begin momentarily.
    Duckett gone for 83

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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,040
    edited July 2023
    One away from the tail, sadly.

    Lose either of these two and it could be over a bit quickly.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,934
    edited July 2023
    Stokes is the key IMO - if only because of what he did to the Australians in Leeds four years ago. The longer he’s out there, the more it will annoy them.

    Even still, Bairstow needs to get at least a half century himself.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    Callumcafc said:
    Addick Addict said:
    killerandflash said:
    Duckett is even leaving the ball.

    And neither he nor Stokes is trying to pull and hook virtually every ball that is at their head and above. Unlike us on Friday. 
    Thoughts on the Aussies inability to play the short ball yesterday?
    There is a difference between an inability to play a very good targetted short ball and taking on any short ball, regardless. As I said on Friday, if it was right to do that as we did and our best ever batsman got sucked into doing so too, even after he had a let off, why did Stokes then refuse to do so? He hasn't done it in this innings either. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,112
    North Lower Neil said:
    One away from the tail, sadly.

    Lose either of these two and it could be over a bit quickly.
    In reality both of these have to get the majority of the runs. Can any of the England tail "do a Leach" against the likes of Starc (who didn't play in Headingley 2019 incidentally)?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    Duckett has 212 runs in the Series to date. Only Khwaja (300) has more from either side. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 40,010
    FFS 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,890
    More brain dead batting

    At least ground your bat. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,907
    Brainless bairstow or cheating Aussies?
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    When’s the ball dead?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,040
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Brainless bairstow or cheating Aussies?
    Both.  Ish.

    Not cheating but poor sportsmanship, withdraw your appeal.

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