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Sean Clare - July 2024 signed for Leyton Orient (p33)
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Think he gets a raw deal personally. His tackling and strength in a tussle are outstanding as is his ability to burst forward and beat players. Admittedly not a great deal of end product but he is a defender. Also prone to the odd error/lapse of concentration but most lg1 players are.Tonight for example he made some monstrous challenges yet some are on his back because Man Utd’s star of the future just about had the better of him in the early stages7
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He still has lapses at the back which cost us goals so the sooner we can get him out of the back four, the better. Midfield may be better for him, or playing the utility role off the bench…0
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I thought he was phenomenal tonight11
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I think that’s very generous because he was a liability for a chunk of the first half. Admittedly he was superb in the secondValleyGary said:I thought he was phenomenal tonight11 -
What about that first half performance ? Lost count how many times garnacho turned him inside out. Very good second half thoughValleyGary said:I thought he was phenomenal tonight0 -
I think saying he was poor first half is harsh. Got torn apart for the first 15mins. Was good after that1
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Honestly I actually have more respect for his performance BECAUSE of that period of the 1st half, weird though that might sound.cafcfan1990 said:
I think that’s very generous because he was a liability for a chunk of the first half. Admittedly he was superb in the secondValleyGary said:I thought he was phenomenal tonight
Yes he was basically being toyed with and the thread was (justifiably) filling with "long night for Clare" type comments BUT he didn't give up or break down he kept going and going and looked a lot better later on.
That shows real character IMO.17 -
He always looks better bursting forward than he is defending.1
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even in those early exchanges he put in some big tackles1
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Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.5 -
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He is more than adequate at this level. IMO the criticism he gets on here is very similar to the unjustified abuse that Simon Francis used to get from our ultra-critical support.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.1 -
Would like to see him in the Morgan role and grab his chance. He will need to turn in an 8/10 performance else will be considered a RB/RCB/RWB.0
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Getting beaten a few times in that first 20 mins by one of the most exciting young talents in the world is understandable.
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First half he was clearly told to play compact. Maguire was playing 50 yard raking balls out wide and Clare was exposed 1v1 against a premier league player who had a10 yards of space to run into before Clare could even get there. Ridiculously harsh. Second half we played slightly wider and he got forward really well.6
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To be honest I'd rather have Egbo in there, or sign a left back and have Sessegnon on the right. Clare should be a useful squad player at this level, who still gets plenty of games (covering RB, RCB and midfield) given there's 50+ games a season, but given the lack of depth we have he's a starter.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.
He's a decent league one player.0 -
Thought he did well last night and was very committed. I like him as a player whatever his limitations are.0
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It's not weird, I don't disagree. But I think if someone starts poorly then plays really well it's over the top to say he was phenomenal. Overall he was pretty good but if we sign the left-back, he doesn't start for me.thenewbie said:
Honestly I actually have more respect for his performance BECAUSE of that period of the 1st half, weird though that might sound.cafcfan1990 said:
I think that’s very generous because he was a liability for a chunk of the first half. Admittedly he was superb in the secondValleyGary said:I thought he was phenomenal tonight
Yes he was basically being toyed with and the thread was (justifiably) filling with "long night for Clare" type comments BUT he didn't give up or break down he kept going and going and looked a lot better later on.
That shows real character IMO.0 -
Fair, but I think in a better team he'd be a better player. I think he has moments of brilliance that he doesn't get the chance to exploit because he is busy covering our other shortcomings.North Lower Neil said:
To be honest I'd rather have Egbo in there, or sign a left back and have Sessegnon on the right. Clare should be a useful squad player at this level, who still gets plenty of games (covering RB, RCB and midfield) given there's 50+ games a season, but given the lack of depth we have he's a starter.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.
He's a decent league one player.
But I know fuck all about football really.3 -
Pretty much my thoughts.North Lower Neil said:
To be honest I'd rather have Egbo in there, or sign a left back and have Sessegnon on the right. Clare should be a useful squad player at this level, who still gets plenty of games (covering RB, RCB and midfield) given there's 50+ games a season, but given the lack of depth we have he's a starter.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.
He's a decent league one player.
If/when Tayo Edun comes in I expect he will come straight into the left back position, and Sessegnon will shift over to the right - which means ultimately he will be third choice RB at the club.
Midfield is the one place where we have lots of competition, and depending on if McGrandles can actually show some of the form if had when Lincoln got to 5th - then I find it hard to see him being up the pecking order there as well.
That's no disservice to him at all. But that is just the reality of it.0 -
Okay, he played really really well. It’s not that deep.cafcfan1990 said:
It's not weird, I don't disagree. But I think if someone starts poorly then plays really well it's over the top to say he was phenomenal. Overall he was pretty good but if we sign the left-back, he doesn't start for me.thenewbie said:
Honestly I actually have more respect for his performance BECAUSE of that period of the 1st half, weird though that might sound.cafcfan1990 said:
I think that’s very generous because he was a liability for a chunk of the first half. Admittedly he was superb in the secondValleyGary said:I thought he was phenomenal tonight
Yes he was basically being toyed with and the thread was (justifiably) filling with "long night for Clare" type comments BUT he didn't give up or break down he kept going and going and looked a lot better later on.
That shows real character IMO.0 -
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I know, I'm not digging you out, I just disagreed.ValleyGary said:
Okay, he played really really well. It’s not that deep.cafcfan1990 said:
It's not weird, I don't disagree. But I think if someone starts poorly then plays really well it's over the top to say he was phenomenal. Overall he was pretty good but if we sign the left-back, he doesn't start for me.thenewbie said:
Honestly I actually have more respect for his performance BECAUSE of that period of the 1st half, weird though that might sound.cafcfan1990 said:
I think that’s very generous because he was a liability for a chunk of the first half. Admittedly he was superb in the secondValleyGary said:I thought he was phenomenal tonight
Yes he was basically being toyed with and the thread was (justifiably) filling with "long night for Clare" type comments BUT he didn't give up or break down he kept going and going and looked a lot better later on.
That shows real character IMO.0 -
Once he calmed down his tackling was fine, his passing though...Stuart_the_Red said:He always looks better bursting forward than he is defending.0 -
3rd choice RB/4th choice FB overall is about where he should be and it's exactly what we needed in the summer regardless of Egbo's injuries. Even if we didn't sign someone who is hopefully as good as Edun turns out to be, we really missed the chance to utilise Sess's versatility. Even if Egbo and Sess had started the season as FB's, we should have had a left-back who was third choice ready to come in for either.FishCostaFortune said:
Pretty much my thoughts.North Lower Neil said:
To be honest I'd rather have Egbo in there, or sign a left back and have Sessegnon on the right. Clare should be a useful squad player at this level, who still gets plenty of games (covering RB, RCB and midfield) given there's 50+ games a season, but given the lack of depth we have he's a starter.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.
He's a decent league one player.
If/when Tayo Edun comes in I expect he will come straight into the left back position, and Sessegnon will shift over to the right - which means ultimately he will be third choice RB at the club.
Midfield is the one place where we have lots of competition, and depending on if McGrandles can actually show some of the form if had when Lincoln got to 5th - then I find it hard to see him being up the pecking order there as well.
That's no disservice to him at all. But that is just the reality of it.
Our midfield 3 last night were decent and is probably the best trio. At the moment I'm not sure about the competition. Payne is ok but Henry still up and down. We really need McGrandles to come good although obviously jury still out. In the summer we still need a quality one although we can probably make do until then.1 -
Before we forget, Clare is performing a better level than Matthews/Gunter at RB.5
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Yes - the versions that we were left with in their final season before they were replaced by Clare.1
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He's a trier and can't fault him for that but technically he is lacking.
A good athlete for sure but not sure the footballing brain is there to reach higher levels.4 -
And Clare's, to be fair.cafcfan1990 said:
3rd choice RB/4th choice FB overall is about where he should be and it's exactly what we needed in the summer regardless of Egbo's injuries. Even if we didn't sign someone who is hopefully as good as Edun turns out to be, we really missed the chance to utilise Sess's versatility. Even if Egbo and Sess had started the season as FB's, we should have had a left-back who was third choice ready to come in for either.FishCostaFortune said:
Pretty much my thoughts.North Lower Neil said:
To be honest I'd rather have Egbo in there, or sign a left back and have Sessegnon on the right. Clare should be a useful squad player at this level, who still gets plenty of games (covering RB, RCB and midfield) given there's 50+ games a season, but given the lack of depth we have he's a starter.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.
He's a decent league one player.
If/when Tayo Edun comes in I expect he will come straight into the left back position, and Sessegnon will shift over to the right - which means ultimately he will be third choice RB at the club.
Midfield is the one place where we have lots of competition, and depending on if McGrandles can actually show some of the form if had when Lincoln got to 5th - then I find it hard to see him being up the pecking order there as well.
That's no disservice to him at all. But that is just the reality of it.
Our midfield 3 last night were decent and is probably the best trio. At the moment I'm not sure about the competition. Payne is ok but Henry still up and down. We really need McGrandles to come good although obviously jury still out. In the summer we still need a quality one although we can probably make do until then.
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see him back as a 3rd CB. If Rak-Sakyi is recalled and we sign a striker then I think Holden might go back to 3-5-2FishCostaFortune said:
Pretty much my thoughts.North Lower Neil said:
To be honest I'd rather have Egbo in there, or sign a left back and have Sessegnon on the right. Clare should be a useful squad player at this level, who still gets plenty of games (covering RB, RCB and midfield) given there's 50+ games a season, but given the lack of depth we have he's a starter.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.
He's a decent league one player.
If/when Tayo Edun comes in I expect he will come straight into the left back position, and Sessegnon will shift over to the right - which means ultimately he will be third choice RB at the club.
Midfield is the one place where we have lots of competition, and depending on if McGrandles can actually show some of the form if had when Lincoln got to 5th - then I find it hard to see him being up the pecking order there as well.
That's no disservice to him at all. But that is just the reality of it.0 -
Possibly as a RCB when we've played 5 at the back, but I think he's a RB to be honest.North Lower Neil said:
And Clare's, to be fair.cafcfan1990 said:
3rd choice RB/4th choice FB overall is about where he should be and it's exactly what we needed in the summer regardless of Egbo's injuries. Even if we didn't sign someone who is hopefully as good as Edun turns out to be, we really missed the chance to utilise Sess's versatility. Even if Egbo and Sess had started the season as FB's, we should have had a left-back who was third choice ready to come in for either.FishCostaFortune said:
Pretty much my thoughts.North Lower Neil said:
To be honest I'd rather have Egbo in there, or sign a left back and have Sessegnon on the right. Clare should be a useful squad player at this level, who still gets plenty of games (covering RB, RCB and midfield) given there's 50+ games a season, but given the lack of depth we have he's a starter.Wheresmeticket? said:Interesting - for some he is their favourite player, for others he's a utility player at best.
Being outplayed by player in a team placed 50 above us in the English leagues, and who's transfer value is probably more than that of our whole team just doesn't seem a valid criticism to me.
He's a decent league one player.
If/when Tayo Edun comes in I expect he will come straight into the left back position, and Sessegnon will shift over to the right - which means ultimately he will be third choice RB at the club.
Midfield is the one place where we have lots of competition, and depending on if McGrandles can actually show some of the form if had when Lincoln got to 5th - then I find it hard to see him being up the pecking order there as well.
That's no disservice to him at all. But that is just the reality of it.
Our midfield 3 last night were decent and is probably the best trio. At the moment I'm not sure about the competition. Payne is ok but Henry still up and down. We really need McGrandles to come good although obviously jury still out. In the summer we still need a quality one although we can probably make do until then.0
