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Post-Match Thread: Oxford United v Charlton Athletic | Thursday 29 December 2022 7:45pm
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Did he? The question was phrased in a weird way (almost like two questions in one) that meant he had to acknowledge the window at the start, then go back to address the first bit first of the question and then talk about plans for the window before going back to focusing on tonight’s performance again.Cardinal Sin said:
Completely blanks the question about the transfer window and having a lot to do.Callumcafc said:
I thought he was very straightforward when he got to addressing the second part of Terry’s long winded question.
It would’ve been nice to have seen him asked a direct question about the window instead of just throwing it in as a comment behind a question about the second half performance.0 -
3 points tops out of our next 6 games 😂😂😂😂0
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You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.2 -
Just got back from the game. another 8 hours and £100 I won’t get back .Leuth said:
How the fuck can you watch that game and pick on Inniss?esseffect said:Still cannot believe Innis plays for this team.
The problem with having new managers is none of them realise he’s dreadful until it’s too late.
Sean Clare is shocking too… no one to take his place though so why bother?
Felt for Chin, not his fault he has to play.Innis showed some spirit . You need to aim your ire at the crap formation in the first half and the sorry excuse for a first half performance.Innis played the second half where we were immeasurably better1 -
Just looked at the Form Table. We are bottom and Portsmouth are second bottom. So, the odds are better for a win on Sunday than they were tonight!
Ever the optimist.
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I love your parting shot. I told my mate this earlier, there was a silence!golfaddick said:Didn't watch it & only saw the goals on Sky so can't really comment on the match itself.
However....
No idea what players would want to join us when the transfer window opens next week, but bloody hell, we need at least half a dozen to just give us a chance of staying up. Recruitment last summer was dire & the lack of spending is now showing that league 2 players on a free wont cut the mustard.
Chin, Henry, Morgan, Stockley & Kanu should be nowhere near the first 11. CBT should start unless injured. JRS should be sent back to Palace and money spent on someone that wants to be here.
Can't warm to Dean Holden. Don't think of him being "our" manager but more as someone just passing through. Really need a proper figure as manager - someone the fans can get behind & who can galvanise the team. Otherwise we are going down. We are currently in freefall and need to start picking up wins asap.
But to end on a high note. Pompey on Sunday and we always win there. Roll on 2023.
I'm going to Portsmouth thinking we'll come back with at least a point.
COYR!
PS, ffs I'm beginning to sound like @lincsaddick0 -
The biggest issue is to get stable ownership given the mess we're in. That's more of a concern for me than what league we're in.ElfsborgAddick said:
You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.0 -
6000 going up there will believe this.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Cantona and Giggs are gonna tear us a new one.3 -
An indication of the quality of football on display in this game - apparently my Mum (who is usually sufficiently invested that she gets the right hump when we lose) decided at some point in the match that her time would be better spent cleaning out the lint trap in the tumble dryer.
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I'm baffled by aspects of our club.
Signing a right footed left back, and one who isn't very durable either. Then using Clayden as cover rather than signing someone else in that position, and then binning him off completely after a couple of months despite the fact that Chin is a worse option at LB. And having to play Campbell there when Chin went off.
As someone else has said, we've TWO SUMMERS RUNNING recruited for a 433, then dumped the system and manager during the season, despite the fact that we don't have the players for a 352 type system either. Hence we started today without CBT, JRS or Kirk, 3 of our main creative elements, and played a completely rusty Thomas at CB just to keep the 3 at the back.
As for other individuals, Henry does have some ability but he can't play in a midfield two, as you need someone better defensively. In the first half our midfield was a void.
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Browny is Charlton.PWADDICK said:Love Steve Brown, calling out the ownership and those so called players8 -
As callumcafc said:sinceiwasyoung said:What sort of a moron is this new manager picking that starting eleven in that formation. Fucking unforgivable. The bloke is clueless.
‘1. Chin in for Sess - enforced due to an injury
2. Thomas in for Inniss - enforced due to Inniss not being able to start twice in three days
3. Stockley in for Leaburn - enforced due to Miles only just recovering from a long term injury and likely can’t go twice in three days, other options are all crocked.
Henry in for Fraser was the only real tweak Holden appears to have made unenforced. And people have been moaning for weeks that Fraser isn’t at the races.’
Don't blame the manager, blame Sandgaard and previous owners who have run the club down to the extent where our squad is so weak we have to play the kids. Blaming Holden is letting TS and the others off the hook.3 -
Come back on here on transfer deadline day.Bailey said:
He actually said 'it's on the horizon but we know that we are short but that's nothing to do with tonight's performance' so 'changing it sharpish' is being a little bit economic with your descriptionboggzy said:The manager changed the subject sharpish when the transfer window was mentioned!0 -
This guy is so far out of his depth it's painful.Callumcafc said:
It's not so much what he says, it's that he sounds about as convincing and inspiring as a blancmange0 -
If you're going to bring in someone like Holden, then you might as well have stuck with Jacko, who at least would have the fans on his side due to his "club legend history"6
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The game was last night..? Shit... I feel guilty... won't blame the club if they use the transfer window to get rid of so called supporters like me.
Doesn't look like we won too...0 -
Do agree, but we cannot go to these depths you do not know how far it can go. Look at Oldham.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
The biggest issue is to get stable ownership given the mess we're in. That's more of a concern for me than what league we're in.ElfsborgAddick said:
You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.0 -
There are no clubs in the National League with Charlton’s pedigree, support or stadium. This is because a club of our size won’t be allowed to fall that far without someone stepping in.ElfsborgAddick said:
You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.
There’s a first time for everything and RD is an extraordinary complication but let’s not pretend Notts County, Wrexham, Halifax, Scunthorpe et al are comparable to us. They’re not.17 -
I would argue that a club of our size should never have been allowed to fall as far as where we are now, but it all seems to have passively been allowed to happen over the last few yearsAirman Brown said:
There are no clubs in the National League with Charlton’s pedigree, support or stadium. This is because a club of our size won’t be allowed to fall that far without someone stepping in.ElfsborgAddick said:
You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.
There’s a first time for everything and RD is an extraordinary complication but let’s not pretend Notts County, Wrexham, Halifax, Scunthorpe et al are comparable to us. They’re not.9 - Sponsored links:
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As you say, a first time for everything, as you say, an extraordinary complication.
Tottenham have not won the title since 1961, they are not a minnow, we can easily plummet.
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Have a look at his managerial history, we're in good hands.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
This guy is so far out of his depth it's painful.Callumcafc said:
It's not so much what he says, it's that he sounds about as convincing and inspiring as a blancmange
Wtf are the clowns taking people on of this inexperience is what I want to know.
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I agree that the NL would be a long shot without EFL points deductions which is what condemned Luton, but just as scary is a club like Bradford who seem stuck in L2Airman Brown said:
There are no clubs in the National League with Charlton’s pedigree, support or stadium. This is because a club of our size won’t be allowed to fall that far without someone stepping in.ElfsborgAddick said:
You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.
There’s a first time for everything and RD is an extraordinary complication but let’s not pretend Notts County, Wrexham, Halifax, Scunthorpe et al are comparable to us. They’re not.2 -
I know things aren’t particularly rosey, but we’re not even in the League One relegation zone. Talk of the National League is a drastic overreaction.4
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How can you be so sure of that Airman?Airman Brown said:
There are no clubs in the National League with Charlton’s pedigree, support or stadium. This is because a club of our size won’t be allowed to fall that far without someone stepping in.ElfsborgAddick said:
You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.
If the unthinkable happened and we were to get relegated this season, I'd guess we would be lucky to sell 4000 season tickets for next season.
If we assume for the purpose of this argument that there is no imminent takeover, we approach the new season with a dogshit squad, no realistic transfer budget and an owner intent on breaking even.
No adequate leadership, no competent executive and an engulfing air of failure could easily see us plummet.
A club in freefall who don't even own the ground that is too big for us
Why on earth would anybody want "to step in"7 -
What do you get when you cross a egocentric wannabe football club owner with a kid who has a black box which churns out shite result after shite result? Exactly what we are witnessing week in week out. I do not blame too many of these players, probably only the ones that have played at a higher level club and should be performing better. It is the absolute planks who have allegedly been ‘leading’ or ‘running’ the club who are to blame and I really would like them to fcuk the fcuk off right now. We have seen all sorts of highs and lows over the decades, but the absolute shambles that the Sangaards have created will go down in history as one of the most ineptly managed periods for our great club. An utter disgrace and I will not let myself be drawn in by these sorts ever again.As for tonight only Myles, Dobbo and Clare came out with any credit. The rest played like a bunch of unacquainted morons.Less than 72 hours to more pain, but I’ll be there…Oh, the life!4
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Don’t agree. In the crap circumstances he did as well as can be expected. We love to dig out managers, and now it’s after literally two games.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
This guy is so far out of his depth it's painful.Callumcafc said:
It's not so much what he says, it's that he sounds about as convincing and inspiring as a blancmange2 -
I normally pride myself in being somebody who doesn't jump to rash conclusions.JamesSeed said:
Don’t agree. In the crap circumstances he did as well as can be expected. We love to dig out managers, and now it’s after literally two games.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
This guy is so far out of his depth it's painful.Callumcafc said:
It's not so much what he says, it's that he sounds about as convincing and inspiring as a blancmange
So on the face of it I've let myself down.
I hope you are right and I'll happily eat the humble pie.
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We're not an attractive proposition at present- we've failed to attract decent owners. The structure of the club is a mess and there's no reason why we can't fall further.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
How can you be so sure of that Airman?Airman Brown said:
There are no clubs in the National League with Charlton’s pedigree, support or stadium. This is because a club of our size won’t be allowed to fall that far without someone stepping in.ElfsborgAddick said:
You only have to look at the clubs in the National League, should we go down this season THERE IS NO REASON WE CANNOT BE THERE.ShootersHillGuru said:Trying not to be dramatic but this could be the beginning of the end. League two will kill this club.
If the unthinkable happened and we were to get relegated this season, I'd guess we would be lucky to sell 4000 season tickets for next season.
If we assume for the purpose of this argument that there is no imminent takeover, we approach the new season with a dogshit squad, no realistic transfer budget and an owner intent on breaking even.
No adequate leadership, no competent executive and an engulfing air of failure could easily see us plummet.
A club in freefall who don't even own the ground that is too big for us
Why on earth would anybody want "to step in"
I hope we don't end up in the NL but it's certainly a possibility. We're certainly not too big to end up there...0 -
Well precisely. He didn't want to play there when on loan at Oxford but Robinson forced him to. His last permanent club in Scotland he was in midfield.JonT_Abs said:
He's not a right wing back. I do know.Leuth said:I also want to caution against writing off Clare. He was atrocious tonight but he's put an incredible shift into a few recent games. Maybe he's tired? Idk
Time & time again we play players in their wrong positions......and you wonder why they don't play well.
Chin isn't a left back
Sess isn't a left back
We Once had Paul Smythe on loan. Someone (not naming names) decided to play him at wingback. He was dreadful. Now he is playing up front for Orient & scoring for fun.
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