Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)
Comments
-
1 -
0 -
0 -
As much as anything, this is down to staff not being able to get to the depots in Kent. The roads around here were treacherous and blocked by abandoned cars this morning.1
-
Masterbrew working for setrains marketing department? Or auditioning for a job?Masterbrew said:As much as anything, this is down to staff not being able to get to the depots in Kent. The roads around here were treacherous and blocked by abandoned cars this morning.1 -
0 -
0 -
So it looks like I've got to go into the office tomorrow. Leaving aside the snow/ice, based on previous strike days is there any indication as to whether;
1. The are likely to be any services at all on the Sidcup line? (I'm guessing not)
2. If the Elizabeth line is running? (Website suggests it is, but with a reduced services)
3. If the DLR is running? (Again, website suggest it is)
Any views on previous experiences welcomed.
Cheers
0 -
Neither, just a simple fact. It's also the reason that many schools are shutBilly_Mix said:
Masterbrew working for setrains marketing department? Or auditioning for a job?2 -
Half-hourly service on Sidcup line between Dartford & London Bridge, first train departs Dartford at 07.23.Off_it said:So it looks like I've got to go into the office tomorrow. Leaving aside the snow/ice, based on previous strike days is there any indication as to whether;
1. The are likely to be any services at all on the Sidcup line? (I'm guessing not)
2. If the Elizabeth line is running? (Website suggests it is, but with a reduced services)
3. If the DLR is running? (Again, website suggest it is)
Any views on previous experiences welcomed.
Cheers
Last train Departs London Bridge at 17.44
https://timetables.southeasternrailway.co.uk/#/timetables/1707/Table 5 TO
Elizabeth Line as followsElizabeth line
Reduced service. Services will operate in 3 sections:
Liverpool Street - Shenfield
- Services will run 07:30-18:30
- 2 trains per hour
Abbey Wood - Paddington
- 12 trains per hour until 17:30
- 6 trains per hour from 17:30
- 6 trains per hour before 08:00 on Wed 14 and Sat 17 December 2022, and Wed 4 and Sat 7 January 2023
Paddington - Heathrow
- Services will run 07:30-18:30
- 2 trains per hour Paddington - Reading
- 2 trains per hour Paddington - Heathrow T4
DLR
Normal service.1 - Sponsored links:
-
The DLR runs regular as clockwork on strike days as I always get it in.Off_it said:So it looks like I've got to go into the office tomorrow. Leaving aside the snow/ice, based on previous strike days is there any indication as to whether;
1. The are likely to be any services at all on the Sidcup line? (I'm guessing not)
2. If the Elizabeth line is running? (Website suggests it is, but with a reduced services)
3. If the DLR is running? (Again, website suggest it is)
Any views on previous experiences welcomed.
Cheers0 -
-
Southeastern snow timetable seems to have worked as planned today0
-
Considering that there are a number of de-icing trains running around the SE network and I believe some of the trains are fitted with de-icing equipment, it was a bloody poor show from yesterday evening onwards.
Of course if the staff can't get into work due to poor road conditions then it doesn't matter how good the de-icing facilities are, trains won't run.
Long gone are the days when key staff lived in railway-built housing near to the railway depots...0 -
I'm trying to find out about the strikes in January but can't get confirmation.
I need to get a train to further out in Kent on January 3rd.
I'm usually a trainspotter general but does anyone know if all trains are cancelled on the 3rd?
When are they going to stop this continuous striking crap. They aren't poor!1 -
Dave2l said:I'm trying to find out about the strikes in January but can't get confirmation.
I need to get a train to further out in Kent on January 3rd.
I'm usually a trainspotter general but does anyone know if all trains are cancelled on the 3rd?
When are they going to stop this continuous striking crap. They aren't poor!Tuesday 3, Wednesday 4, Friday 6 and Saturday 7 January
- There will be a limited service running on our network and some routes will be closed. The national advice is please only travel if absolutely necessary. If you have to travel, plan ahead and check your first and last trains across all train operators.
- Only 44 out of 180 stations will be open. No rail replacement buses will serve stations that are closed
- You may be unable to board trains at stations where a limited service is running, especially at locations such as Ashford and Ebbsfleet.
- The last trains back from London will be much earlier than usual.
- Online journey planners are up to date.
- https://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/travel-information/live-travel-information/industrial-action
0 -
That map is an absolute joke - you can't actually read what it says in the key.
I thought it may just be a bad copy, but it's exactly the same on their website.
How totally shit is that.0 -
clive said:Dave2l said:I'm trying to find out about the strikes in January but can't get confirmation.
I need to get a train to further out in Kent on January 3rd.
I'm usually a trainspotter general but does anyone know if all trains are cancelled on the 3rd?
When are they going to stop this continuous striking crap. They aren't poor!Tuesday 3, Wednesday 4, Friday 6 and Saturday 7 January
- There will be a limited service running on our network and some routes will be closed. The national advice is please only travel if absolutely necessary. If you have to travel, plan ahead and check your first and last trains across all train operators.
- Only 44 out of 180 stations will be open. No rail replacement buses will serve stations that are closed
- You may be unable to board trains at stations where a limited service is running, especially at locations such as Ashford and Ebbsfleet.
- The last trains back from London will be much earlier than usual.
- Online journey planners are up to date.
- https://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/travel-information/live-travel-information/industrial-action
👍
This is quite literally the most frustrating thing in the world.
I don't need to explain it but it is a c#nt!
I just tried to book a ticket for thursday the 5th of January.
It doesn't appear to be a day that will be affected but I still can't book a ticket?0 -
ASLEF drivers are striking on 5th January.
No drivers = no trains at all.
Further details via the nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruption page0 - Sponsored links:
-
It appears to all be back to normal the following Sunday 8th Jan0
-
Hopefully that's clearer for people0 -
It appears all trains start running again from Sunday the 8th.
Hopefully it stays that way and another moaning strike doesn't occur.
They probably collectively earn a high annual salary but it's obviously not enough and won't ever be good enough.
I doubt similar continuous strikes like these always happen further out in europe
0 -
When is the govt going to stop interfering in the negotiations?Dave2l said:I'm trying to find out about the strikes in January but can't get confirmation.
I need to get a train to further out in Kent on January 3rd.
I'm usually a trainspotter general but does anyone know if all trains are cancelled on the 3rd?
When are they going to stop this continuous striking crap. They aren't poor!4 -
Would you accept an effective cut in your wages and pension, and threats to you actually having a job? I know I wouldn't without trying to do something about it. There are many explainers for the strikes on the web, here's one that's not from the BBC or The Guardian, which I know many people on here seem to have a problem with:Dave2l said:It appears all trains start running again from Sunday the 8th.
Hopefully it stays that way and another moaning strike doesn't occur.
They probably collectively earn a high annual salary but it's obviously not enough and won't ever be good enough.
I doubt similar continuous strikes like these always happen further out in europe
https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/whats-the-rail-strike-all-about-rmt-transport-inflation-government/138420/
3 -
There are lots of issues regarding these strikes but I work in the industry and I think I can nail some of them. Firstly pay, the rail companies want to settle but have been forced by the government not to, this is because the rail companies signed a contract in April to be part of 'GREAT BRITISH RAILWAYS' this means the companies run the trains but the government tells them what they can spend. Pensions, the Great British Railways project is nationalisation by stealth and the government wants to do exactly what they did to the teachers and Police, work longer for less pension. Driver only trains, we are used to this type of working because we have had trains for a good while with the equipment to run the system, go further north or west and you will find that is not the case, so the government are ignoring the safety requirements of DOO and are bringing it in anyway. Redundancies, compulsory, April 2024. There is more but it's about altered working practises and forced weekend and nightwork. Make of it what you will, I would strike if that were happening to me, the cost of the railways before privatisation was £13 billion to the taxpayer it's now £20 billion at the same rate, once again you decide if that's value for money.7
-
The government won’t want to give anyone a decent pay rise, as they will see it as a precedent. They want to break the unions or bring in legislation to reduce their powers.I can only see a grim few months ahead.0
-
Avanti West Coast and Southeastern ‘worst for cancellations’ as train reliability hits record low
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/avanti-west-coast-southeastern-train-cancellations-london-euston-orr-strikes-b1054931.html
0 -
Sadly Southeastern will likely use this as more evidence to support their appalling’All Change’ new timetable. 😡clive said:Avanti West Coast and Southeastern ‘worst for cancellations’ as train reliability hits record low
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/avanti-west-coast-southeastern-train-cancellations-london-euston-orr-strikes-b1054931.html0 -
3
