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Post-Match Thread: CHARLTON ATHLETIC v CHELTENHAM TOWN / FRIDAY 2nd DECEMBER 2022 7.45pm KO
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We do?mistrollingin62 said:The club I've supported since 1962 is broken from top to bottom.Fuck off SandmanFuck off Mrs SandmanFuck off little Sandman'sFuck off KeoneAnd fuck off anyone who licks the arseholes of the above mentioned (We know who you are)And it's goodnight from him.
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Yes but that's not what has been said, multiple times.RonnieMoore said:
Because SG has scouts to do that and gather the data SG will only get involved later in the dealCafc43v3r said:How are Martin and Gallen always out watching players and always at our games?1 -
What an utter disgrace to the name of Charlton Athletic.
The starting line up was one of the weakest in our history & the expected loss duly followed against one of the worst teams to ever come to The Valley.
Absolutely heartbreaking.21 -
One of, if not the most sorriest games of professional football i have ever seen.
I think Garner wants out, and without Sandgaard having a "proper" football man as CEO we are for the next couple of seasons dead in the water.
I had to get up at 4am to be in work for 6am so i could leave at 3pm to be home in time to make the game,,,, feel like a mug!!!3 -
To be honest the two youngsters did ok, goalkeeper was shit all night dreadful kicking out as well as the massive cock up for the goal.
My main gripe is this dreadful backwards football we play, hate it with a passion. Every throw in seems to go backwards, most free kicks played backwards, for fuck sake you are supposed to entertain.
I honestly believe Garner has lost the plot and even at this level is totally out of his depth, please fall on your sword and go you are clueless.
Sandman please go you are running our club into the ground and again you are totally out of your depth, how you going to break even on falling gates, which will clearly only get worse with the lack of investment in the team/management.
We simply don’t look like scoring and the defence is just dreadful a mistake just waiting to happen every game.8 -
Not playing your guitar & going "boom" now are you matey !
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An absolute insulting disgrace that he brought JFC on in the 92nd minute. I feel for Garner a little BUT as some of said we should be higher than we are. The cards he has been dealt by this prick of an owner however are bang out of order.
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You’ve got to remember as well, we are already pretty much the last ones standing. Thousands upon have already packed it in and walked awaythroughthickandthin said:Not sure how much more of this I can take.Season by season it just gets worse and worse14 -
How can Sandgaard be asking any money for the club? Losing £8m a year and a first team squad worth zilch. You could make a case for a few of the Academy prospects but it all amounts to a row of beans. Sandgaard was stupid giving Southall and the Fake Sheikh anything. A new owner should avoid making the same mistake. Sandgaard has to give it away to get out of the money pit.4
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We don’t deserve this and neither does George Dobson.1
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Everytime I hear Garner I get the impression he doesn't really want to be here. He also can't set a team up defensively, slightly above Russell Slade on the list of Cafc managers9
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I remember saying in the summer if we had even the smallest sliver of ambition we would have bought that ex Erith and Belvedere player, May. We didn't because Sangaard refused to spend anything.
Chickens come home to roost for the idiot as he was the best forward on the pitch by a mile.
At least I made a tidy profit as he was 17-2 to score first 💰1 -
Didn't deserve to loose, but I am not so sure we deserved to win.
Our "attacking" play is nothing short of pathetic. If we were still playing now I doubt we'd have scored. How many actual saves did their keeper make?
Yet again we gift chances to an opposition - Innis is particular seemed determined to hand a goal to Cheltenham on plate. Talking of Innis it seems he has once again picked up an injury, no doubt that will be him missing for another few months. With suspensions and injuries he is an utter waste of a wage.
You have to wonder whether MacG was still concused.....why the fuck did he come charging out like that? Nothing short of farcical.
Mitchell and Ness did ok, Clare was pretty good and Sessengnon did nothing wrong.
Dobson was essentially carrying the midfield with Morgan as poor as ever and Fraser non-existant.
Garner is starting to make decisions (team selection tonight) which come across as desperate or ludicrous. If you are looking for 65-70mins from Aneke, why do it the cup game? League is far more important.
Was trying to work out after the game the last time I looked at an entire squad and had nothijng resembing a favourite player. I am ambivalent at best about most of these. Some I actively dislike and would rather they never put the red shirt on again.
The biggest concern for me is that we are picking up injury after injury and are 29 days away from the transfer window opening and there is absolutely no discussion in press conferences which mentions addressing the issues we have in the squad. It feels like the season has been given up on already.
I have been patient with Sandergaard and don't agree with protests against him, but I really wish he would hold his hands up and say he has bitten off more than he can chew/doesn't have the time or financial clout to take us where we should be heading. We will tread water and gradually sink lower and lower all the while he remains.
I want Garner to stay and would like to see someone back him and let him build a squad suited to his style of play.5 -
Have a look at the majority of games that we have lost this season and they are clearly down to having no strikers. That is down to Sandgaards decision to dump Washington and not replace him, it was obvious that Stockley would be suspended, injured or out of form at some time, Chuks cannot handle League football, his body is simply not up to it. Something has to give and that something is Sandgaard.10
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We signed Mac to be our number one goalkeeper.
Our number one.
If we get a new owner I hope our whole recruitment team, analysis setup and whatever else (including Gallen AKA "I've watched Lavelle loads") are all turfed out from the roots and beyond. Absolutely had enough.8 -
I wondered whether there was a bit of politics there played by Garner to snitch Sandgaard up. Who knows if bring on JFC triggered something contract wise that the club had previously been avoiding? Who knowscafc4life said:An absolute insulting disgrace that he brought JFC on in the 92nd minute. I feel for Garner a little BUT as some of said we should be higher than we are. The cards he has been dealt by this prick of an owner however are bang out of order.6 -
This, all day long. I’d love to see what Garner could do with an owner that backed him. Doesn’t feel like we’ll get the chance now.Clem_Snide said:
I have been patient with Sandergaard and don't agree with protests against him, but I really wish he would hold his hands up and say he has bitten off more than he can chew/doesn't have the time or financial clout to take us where we should be heading. We will tread water and gradually sink lower and lower all the while he remains.
I want Garner to stay and would like to see someone back him and let him build a squad suited to his style of play.
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Gallen is extremely lucky to avoid seemingly any stick for his poor recruitment, which seems to coincide with young Tommy D leaving with RD.Chunes said:We signed Mac to be our number one goalkeeper.
Our number one.
If we get a new owner I hope our whole recruitment team, analysis setup and whatever else (including Gallen AKA "I've watched Lavelle loads") are all turfed out from the roots and beyond. Absolutely had enough.9 -
We never looked like scoring and we seemed pretty desperate to gift Cheltenham a goal which we inevitably did.
Cheltenham were poor and I can't see who we can beat at present.
Heading towards a relegation battle ...
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This team is so weird. We had the ball in
the net twice, Cheltenham had a spree of
enormous chances in the first half and yet it’s just so painfully boring. Even when something’s happening it feels pointless.1 -
What I said on the way home. Pointless I thought at the time, but maybe it was a point being made.AFKABartram said:
I wondered whether there was a bit of politics there played by Garner to snitch Sandgaard up. Who knows if bring on JFC triggered something contract wise that the club had previously been avoiding? Who knowscafc4life said:An absolute insulting disgrace that he brought JFC on in the 92nd minute. I feel for Garner a little BUT as some of said we should be higher than we are. The cards he has been dealt by this prick of an owner however are bang out of order.
Meanwhile, Albie will still be playing for us when it’s the 60th Anniversary of the return.2 -
Why when our midfielders ar running at their back four, with DJ and JRS making runs up front do we always look wide.Their Center backs had the turning circle of an oil tanker. A slide ball through the gap for one of our two forwards to run onto must have been a better use of the the ball than put it wide and expect them to outjump the taller defenders to the header.Makes no sense at all.4
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MacGillivray worked with Gallen's brother for a while, that's why we signed him. We had no scouting system for years and despite noise to the contrary I don't think we have one now.Chunes said:We signed Mac to be our number one goalkeeper.
Our number one.
If we get a new owner I hope our whole recruitment team, analysis setup and whatever else (including Gallen AKA "I've watched Lavelle loads") are all turfed out from the roots and beyond. Absolutely had enough.2 -
And will still have fans stating that "he'll come good"EastTerrace said:
What I said on the way home. Pointless I thought at the time, but maybe it was a point being made.AFKABartram said:
I wondered whether there was a bit of politics there played by Garner to snitch Sandgaard up. Who knows if bring on JFC triggered something contract wise that the club had previously been avoiding? Who knowscafc4life said:An absolute insulting disgrace that he brought JFC on in the 92nd minute. I feel for Garner a little BUT as some of said we should be higher than we are. The cards he has been dealt by this prick of an owner however are bang out of order.
Meanwhile, Albie will still be playing for us when it’s the 60th Anniversary of the return.2 -
Don’t need one - we have Martin’s Black Box and a hotline to Swindon. Why would we need people who could recognise a good player ?Cafc43v3r said:
MacGillivray worked with Gallen's brother for a while, that's why we signed him. We had no scouting system for years and despite noise to the contrary I don't think we have one now.Chunes said:We signed Mac to be our number one goalkeeper.
Our number one.
If we get a new owner I hope our whole recruitment team, analysis setup and whatever else (including Gallen AKA "I've watched Lavelle loads") are all turfed out from the roots and beyond. Absolutely had enough.0 -
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Comedy gold for their goal...1 -
Honestly not sure I can be bothered to attend until something changes at Charlton, tonight was an embarrassment1
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Didn’t take me long to find a post that sums up I feel. This club are ******** disgrace, top to bottom.Croydon said:Hate the lot them. Bar the academy boys that was a disgraceful performance. Someone needs to come in and guts the whole club completelyThe owner is a clueless narcissist who is in way beyond his depth. Whatever credit he had in the bank he had for stepping in has all but abated due to his piss poor execution of running a football club and refusal to hire people that know what they’re doing.The manager who I think is working with one hand tied behind his back doesn’t have clue. I don’t think many other managers could get a tune out of these players, but Garner’s hardly come from a reputation of up and coming pedigree. We have injuries, yes, but it doesn’t take any sort of footballing knowledge to see that with the players we have, we can’t play possession football. Garner talks about dominating games, being unlucky blah blah blah, but even tonight, during the period in the second half we had more of the ball, we weren’t really causing them problems. There are so many examples. Persisting with Stockley. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Any idiot can see that he’s an oaf of a footballer and has no skill. Yet he starts, week in, week out, as captain. Our whole system or approach at the moment is to hope we’re still in the game around the 70th minute and bring on the broken down cheat code for some sort of pathetic finale where we’re all meant to get excited at the prospect he’s going to win us the game. What a pathetic existence and way to approach games.
and finally, the players. I think I hate most of them, and don’t dislike some of them. That’s about as much as I can give them. They’re a bunch of useless, overpaid, overprotected, chinless wonders and the only thing that they consistently deliver, is destroying my weekends and the occasional midweek evening. They can all do one. We’ve had a conveyor belt of raggy dolls since 09, bar the Powell promotion season and subsequent season in the Championship, and Bowyer taking us up in 19 and the season after that, it’s been a consistent detritus.
You are spot on Croydon. Gut the whole thing, and start again.30 years on from what was the most important moment in our club’s history and all of the blood, sweat and tears that it took to get us home, eradicated by years of mismanagement and constant crap.If they haven’t already, they’ve lost a generation of fans based on how bad it’s been in recent years27 -
Tonight I could not be bothered to go. While I ahve been a season ticket holder (since 1997) I can't remember not bothered as a reason. I kept up with the stats and and game a bit. How am I able to get my nephews/neices to the Valley when it has been terrible for more than a decade. Less the Bowyer miracle.
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